Oppo and OnePlus stop sales in Germany after Nokia patent dispute [update: Nokia statement]

09 August 2022
Nokia sued over the licensing of two standard-essential patents. Sales in other countries seem unaffected for now.

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Anonymous, 09 Aug 2022What the hell are you talking about. They didn't ignor... moreNokia is a company that invents technologies, so why should'nt they also require others to pay for it, if they want to use it?
What has oppo invented? Created a larger charger? Oh, what an innovation.

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    Anonymous, 09 Aug 2022Nokia is preventing innovation, dog company overcharging fo... moreI know, that you in China are used to copy everything and especially other's inventions, but that's not how the civilised world works. I hope your phones get banned in the whole EU.

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      notafanboy, 09 Aug 2022the whole thing reeks, I'm confident Oppo (and OnePlus... moreI hope they will be fined. Or maybe finished.
      And more countries to follow!

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        • 09 Aug 2022

        NickValok, 09 Aug 2022The actual ruling of the lawsuit came out a month ago and h... moreWhat the hell are you talking about. They didn't ignore patents. In fact there was a multi year agreement signed between Oppo and Nokia. This is a dispute over what Oppo feels is excessive fee associated with old patents. You need reading comprehension skills.

        Not to mention Nokia has been acting like a patent troll as they've gone after Apple, Siemens and Samsung over these patent fees as well.

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          • 09 Aug 2022

          Just because a company has patented some piece of tech doesnt mean they havent stolen it from somewhere else. Are you aware of how tech was developed?

          I have seen lot of company's hiring people to develop and then screwing them with shitty policies and have the audacity to copyright their work under company's name and profiting from it for lifetime.

          i copy this from someone else post .lazy to comment

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            Surge, 09 Aug 2022So you say not paying enough for someone else's invent... moreNo, Oppo is in the right here because they previously had an agreement which now expired and Nokia asked for more money instead of the same

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              Anonymous, 09 Aug 2022Nokia is preventing innovation, dog company overcharging fo... moreSo, nokia spend billions per year on R&D for telecon.
              Nokia is open to license their tech to whoever is interested.
              But to you this is " preventing innovations".

              Other for sire also use Nokia's tech and pay. Why cant oppo do same?

                Anonymous, 09 Aug 2022Nokia is preventing innovation, dog company overcharging fo... moreYou mean Company which spend over 100 Billion Euros to do research related with phone you are using today?

                Nokia Made low powered bluetooth, 2g, 3G, 4G, 5G, NFC, Video codecs, Wifi for phones and so many things.

                Nokia invent things, hence they are not patent troll, if Oppo cant pay they can Invent their own Network and use it.

                Its Sad companies which do lot of research are treated badly while Those who steal those Technology sell phones worldwide and earn Billions.

                  SuuperBaka, 09 Aug 2022Being a bigger company means nothing. Nokia owns the patent... moreThey are not even bigger.
                  BBK market cap is $29 billion.
                  Nokia Market cap is $47 billion

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                    notafanboy, 09 Aug 2022the whole thing reeks, I'm confident Oppo (and OnePlus... moreYes, when they start paying Nokia.
                    What should have been done to begin with.

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                      notafanboy, 09 Aug 2022Oppo are in the right. These are some desperate tactics by ... moreIt is Nokia, not HMD.

                      Oppo/OnePlus phones are using their patents related to 5G without paying single cent.
                      But you still defend them?

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                        • 09 Aug 2022

                        Should hire Apple's lawyer.

                        Apple gets away doing same always.

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                          notafanboy, 09 Aug 2022It's a matter of who sucks and who doesn't. And a... moreYou need to be at least 18 years old to post on here.

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                            SuuperBaka, 09 Aug 2022"It's a matter of who sucks and who doesn't.... moreNokia is preventing innovation, dog company overcharging for patents.
                            The company earns more from it's patents than anything else.
                            They spam patents out every year preventing smaller companies and even some larger ones from accessing essential technology to meet standards such as 5g.

                              Anonymous, 09 Aug 2022is that the real reason ?? or its political war because of... moreThe actual ruling of the lawsuit came out a month ago and had a one-month mediation period. Of course, there was no U.S. visit to Taiwan a month ago, and of course, the ruling and issue are irrelevant. It's just that Chinese smartphones ignored international patents and did business.

                                notafanboy, 09 Aug 2022It's a matter of who sucks and who doesn't. And a... more"It's a matter of who sucks and who doesn't. And as things stand today, Nokia sucks."

                                Lmao, what is this disability logic?

                                That has nothing to do with patent disputes at all. You're actually just a blind hater lol. If someone infringes on someone else's patents, that is not right. Nokia is 100% in the right here. Nokia owns the tech and patents, Oppo doesn't. If Oppo wants to use them, then they have to pay Nokia for them through the contract they had before. If they don't want to renew it then Oppo says goodbye to the patents they were using.

                                Now explain why Oppo is in the right again but using actual logic.

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                                  • 09 Aug 2022

                                  is that the real reason ?? or its political war because of US nannay visit Taiwan island ?

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                                    • 09 Aug 2022

                                    good. oneplus is a joke these days anyway. might as well call it oppoplus because there's almost no difference at this point.

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                                      • 09 Aug 2022

                                      You don't even own a phone of that brand but somehow think they are in the right?? Please do explain how they are in the right because nothing here indicates that. Clearly, you're the one with the hater mentality.

                                        SuuperBaka, 09 Aug 2022You don't even own a phone of that brand but somehow t... moreIt's a matter of who sucks and who doesn't. And as things stand today, Nokia sucks.