Motorola announces X30 Pro with 200MP camera and S30 Pro

11 August 2022
Motorola X30 Pro is the first phone with a 200MP main camera.

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  • 12 Aug 2022

Before you buy any motorla phone, go to :https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/motorola-edge-20-pro/bd-p/motorola_edge_20_pro_en for example, and check the issues and how they are treating consumers.

Check forums for edge 30 as well. Every phone has camera issue, software issue and it's launched half finished. After 100+ complaints about camera, I called motorola support, just to find that they do not have a single ticket opened for camera.

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    • 12 Aug 2022

    Lccy, 12 Aug 2022YouTube.com/watch?v=CTsTHTZxDqc Theres a good photo compar... moreThanks for the video link. I didn't understand a thing he said but based on the pics the Moto has a fantastic price-to-camera capabilities ratio, compared to the other. They are close, each being better at some scenes and worse in others. But for $500 the Moto's main camera is a great value. I have no idea what the software is like though.

      Anonymous, 11 Aug 2022LG dual screen based on older devices like Zte Axon M (2018... moreNever heard of them but I think the dual screen is not detachable in Axon M... seems pretty good though but it is also old.
      Hoping for a new device with it.

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        • 12 Aug 2022

        YouTube.com/watch?v=CTsTHTZxDqc
        Theres a good photo comparison on this YouTube video between the x30 pro, s22 ultra, iPhone 13 pro and Xiaomi 12s ultra. He also demonstrates the 200mp and 50mp modes, and does a night comparison.

        YouTube.com/watch?v=tu50_WJrQEQ
        This is also another good video where he compares the standard photo to the 200mp, and to the s22 ultra.

        The field of view seems wider than the iPhone 13 pro, the dynamic range in one of the photos looked to be the best, at night there was one comparison where it performed either than the 12s and s22 ultra.

        As for the 200mp mode, there's quite a processing delay, for stark contrast like black text on a white background, there seems to be a good resolution benefit, but in areas with micro contrast like the slate wall, metal bar etc, I think there's where the colour filter array struggles. It's too early to tell whether the 50 or 200mp modes are worthwhile.

        I can't wait for GSM arena to test this phone. I want to see how it performs with the balcony blinds in 50 and 200mp mode.

          Nick Tegrataker, 11 Aug 2022Smartphone sensors are rapidly getting larger, it's ti... moreNot much for binning but I agree that about 16mp is the sweet spot, period. Look at the pic compare charts here for example. Fine detail is simply sloshed in 12 no matter how good the processing is..

            Anonymous, 11 Aug 2022Diameter of aperture changes with the f and focal length. ... moreOf course all f/2.0 are equal, it's just a basic spec and lower is always better for low light.. if the manufacturer uses a dimmer one, for maintaining center frame sharpness, avoiding edge distortion or whatever reason, they are underutilizing the sensor! 12s ultra has processing artifacts everywhere. It's always been an apples to oranges comparison in this market and no learned person would buy an obvious design compromise.

              What to think of phone having 200mp and low res 2x camera... well, its at least better than having 50mp and 2x, but still.

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                • 11 Aug 2022

                Along with Xiaomi 12S ultra the best camera phone of the year.

                  I think Motorola is competing in the who can make the ugliest phone segment.

                    Utpal mandal, 11 Aug 2022Which is best for camera? Moto g32 or g 52 which model?G52/G71.

                      Crazy Weirdo, 11 Aug 2022Global versions will probably go with the Edge 30 Ultra and... moreNo globally second device might go with Moto Edge 30 Fusion name.

                        Aierlan, 11 Aug 2022The initial pricing of the x30pro is incorrect in this arti... moreYes.

                          VitabisSJ, 11 Aug 2022What's the update policy? 2 major android updates and ... moreYes. Pretty good for the price.

                            Bigmeme, 11 Aug 2022Wow the pricing's pretty good on this one 🤒🥵Yes pretty good pricing. Globally should not cost more than 750USD. And 256GB should be norm with that much capable camera. Let's see what is the pricing globally. Even though I don't intend to buy one, white one looks dope.

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                              • 11 Aug 2022

                              Nick Tegrataker, 11 Aug 2022Your previous comment where you said it's all "pu... moreThere is ... The 50MP is just an extra mode to sustain some real time HDR capabilities (reading pixels at different exposures) that full resolution loses while still being capable of some significant amount of digital zoom.

                              As said before, the 50MP still has 4 grouped. Then Other 3 groups of 4 with same colour filter around. You do not have arrengement RGGB to act as Bayer . You have still have GGGG, BBBB, RRRR ..
                              50MP modes is gonna read each "1.2 micron " individually, and use software trick to emulate Bayer CFA same way it is done for full resolution on quadbayer 50MP.

                              All this process is awful for readout speed. Soon phones start to bring 12K and 16K videos (as unnecessary as 8K because low quality phones do), rolling shutter already huge shall be overwhelming. Not counting even most powerful comercial computers barely handle 8K.

                              At least sony will have excuse to keep selling those 16K microLED walls for over $5 million like they have since 2018.

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 11 Aug 2022

                                It's so ironic that there is a 2x tele cam. This. proves again that those 4-in-1, 9-in-1, 16-in-1 sensor are all BS. Just make a 12.5 MP sensor, that would be much more cost efficient. And with the saved costs, you can just add real tele cameras.

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                                  • 11 Aug 2022

                                  2.56µm with f/1.95 gathers less light than 2.4µm with f/1.8!

                                    Rkm, 11 Aug 2022All that hype was just for fancy crop mode? 😐Maybe. I don't know much about focal lengths but they focused on this during the presentation anyway

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                                      Aierlan, 11 Aug 2022They focused on this in the presentation with samples from ... moreAll that hype was just for fancy crop mode? 😐

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 11 Aug 2022

                                        S30 Pro is waste of R&D money.
                                        No advantage over motorola from 2021 with same SoC.