Apple gets another $19M fine in Brazil for not shipping chargers
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- AnonD-1066415
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- 15 Oct 2022
blue, 14 Oct 2022I wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed&qu... moreExcept is not really like that. Apple charges some small fee (I think nowadays is 5USD, it used to be 10USD) to manufacturers who produce accessories with lightning connector. Because lightning connector is licensed by Apple.
Also, the third party products need to be certified to use with Apple products (something like MFI, made for iPhone/iPad). Otherwise any damage to the Apple product will result in loose of warranty.
That is one of the big reasons Apple doesn't want to ditch lightning connector. They get a lot of money from this license.
Is all about money and all about profit. But, of course, Apple fanboys will always find excuses for their beloved brand. I feel sorry for them actually.
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- 3JJ
- 15 Oct 2022
My question is: who gets to keep that money? Does the Brazilian Government utilise the money they got from the penalty to buy chargers for their local Apple consumers?
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- 15 Oct 2022
If they were worried about the environment, they would've switched long ago from lightning to USB-c as every other phone did. Their lightning cable is limited to USB 2, a lot slower than USB 3 and thunderbolt (which they have on their Mac). They are greedy. Maybe they'll switch to USB-c now but only because of EU laws.
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- Anonymous
- wrb
- 15 Oct 2022
Actually, not shipping the charger cost much higher to the environment, since the charger we needed will be packaged inside a different box which will cost an extra wrap and papers used when shipped.
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- Bodygard
- nw9
- 15 Oct 2022
blue, 14 Oct 2022I wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed&qu... moreI wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed" mantra. Apple sells only a few percent of the chargers that iPhone users buy. People use chargers from different manufacturers, because all can charge iPhone with no problem.
Oh no no no. Let me enlighten you then. Last year in Russia Apple charger sales went through the roof, 884% increase. 8.4 million chargers sold. A few percent you say?
Now let's see how Apple makes even more money out of this. They reduced the size of the box, so they can ship more, paying the same for transportation, logistics. 40% drop in shipping costs.
More: when Apple took the charger from the box, why didn't the iPhone price went down? at least a bit? oh i know, it's a small parcel in the total value of the phone, so it was diluted, absorbed. And they had a ton of motives for that, the phone was upgraded etc how convenient. They saved about 6 billion with this cut but didn't pass the benefit to the end consumer. Kept it in their pockets yaaay!
It's estimated they made around 293 million worldwide with charger sales. Well, there goes the environment because they had to make charger boxes and ship them etc how cynical. Corporate greed? no, they are full of good will.
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- AnonD-731363
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- 15 Oct 2022
Every single country should follow brazil and sue every phone maker for selling unfinished products.
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- Amit
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- 15 Oct 2022
It's good to see governments taking steps against Apple
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- Anonymous
- vjX
- 14 Oct 2022
SShock, 14 Oct 2022You know what's more lame, people blaming Apple for th... moreApple was the one who started the stupid practice and consumers still lapped up their products despite this. Now this stupid practice is becoming widespread and not restricted to Apple and Samsung.
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- Anonymous
- vjX
- 14 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2022Brasil wants to pollute the earth.Don't use any electrical appliances if you care so much about the environment. You won't use any plugs then.
Get your priorities right.
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- vjX
- 14 Oct 2022
blue, 14 Oct 2022I wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed&qu... moreReally? I would say most iPhone users are stuck in the ecosystem and use only Apple-branded products.
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- blue
- 0CN
- 14 Oct 2022
Bodygard, 14 Oct 2022If it's for the environment, why do they ship the ligh... moreI wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed" mantra. Apple sells only a few percent of the chargers that iPhone users buy. People use chargers from different manufacturers, because all can charge iPhone with no problem.
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- Bodygard
- nw9
- 14 Oct 2022
If it's for the environment, why do they ship the lightning cable also? Most people who buy an iPhone already have that cable at home so...
No, it's about greed and profits. Because most people do have a charger yes but 1st the charger is usb-a and the cable Apple provides is usb-c so that forces people to buy a charger from Apple most of the times and 2nd the charger people have at home serves to charge other device(s) so it can't always be used to charge the iPhone. People are forced to buy a charger from Apple to have access to the "fast" charging and end up doing more harm to the environment (according to Apple thinking) then if it came in the iPhone box - because it's another box, more plastic etc
No. It's greed with a smart but not so valid excuse behind it. Other manufacturers followed; they should be fined also.
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- 14 Oct 2022
blue, 14 Oct 2022Then you bought a cable that is not made for data transfer.... moreWell I don't think it is my fault when the cables work fine with every other phone I own and all are recognised by the pc.huawei mate 9,20/X, p30 pro,note 9,10 plus,s7 edge lg g5,g6.all of them work just fine.but for some reason the s21 ultra does not.
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- 14 Oct 2022
toaa, 14 Oct 2022well if you compare fairly a53 release price with a52s rele... moreNot, at least in my country. A52s was around 350€ while A53 was around 470€
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- mAT
- 14 Oct 2022
It's simple if you want to buy a new iphone with charger and cable you must give your old charger and cable, if you want only to buy a new charger or a new cable you give another charger or cable.
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- 14 Oct 2022
SShock, 14 Oct 2022Pretending others don't just the same. Were Galaxy pho... morewell if you compare fairly a53 release price with a52s release price then they cost the same.
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- 14 Oct 2022
ALPHABOY17, 14 Oct 2022No one mentions that on samsung phones you absolutely NEED ... moreit's your cable that cause the trouble. any phone (android or iphone) can be charged with any charger head. what vary is the charging power your phone received and wheather the cable you use can support the watt.
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- SShock
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- 14 Oct 2022
AnonD-454049, 14 Oct 2022another issue is that apple keeps prices the same even thou... morePretending others don't just the same. Were Galaxy phones suddenly cheaper because of no charger? A53 is more expensive than far superior A52s which also had a charger on top of everything.
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- blue
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- 14 Oct 2022
AnonD-454049, 14 Oct 2022exactly if they cared that much they would make products th... moreWhich is exactly what Apple makes. The longest support, durability of all components, a complex repair and replace system, refurbishing etc.
No other manufacturer is anywhere close to this. Samsung tries hard, but still the support lags behind and the replacement program is also barely existent.
So, if you really want to talk ecology, talk Apple.
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- blue
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- 14 Oct 2022
SShock, 14 Oct 2022You know what's more lame, people blaming Apple for th... moreFor once you are absolutely right.