Samsung Galaxy S23 with Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 tested by Geekbench
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SShock, 20 Oct 2022That's mostly related to ancient inefficient chipsets.... moreThe Chipsets of those, Huawei, Oppo Vivo whatever watches, you name it, are not more efficient. They are actually less efficient by a long margin, their node, their architecture, their specs, are all outdated, and lack in comparison to the competition, but their simpler implementation and cut-down OS which essentially makes them dumb watches, is what helps them achieve that astounding battery life.
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Kangal, 23 Oct 2022Wait, but that was you! " That's why iphone 13pr... moreI cannot understand if youre trolling or not, nothing you said came to fruition. 8gen 2 is about 2x times the 778 just in cpu power. About the same drain overall.
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it so amazing to see that high performance in mobile but price is all about at the end.
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RMS Value, 30 Oct 2022Are you arguing without knowing it? I put the exact number.... moreOf course, companies like to put specifications lower than what they really are, surely it makes a lot of sense
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Anonymous, 23 Oct 2022People have invested themselves in Android, they don't... moreThat's a fancy way of saying they are fanboys...
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OhNom, 20 Oct 2022At what point am I an Apple fan? It's just a bad numbe... moreAre you arguing without knowing it? I put the exact number. Not just paper specs.
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SShock, 20 Oct 2022I know what L3 cache is. The guy calling iPhone "fake ... more'Alternative would be use of very wide memory bus and/or very fast memory which is always more expensive compared to stuffing more on-die memory. Which is in itself a slight problem as it makes chip die size larger and more prone to defects during fab process, but is ultimately cheaper than wider bus and faster memory'
Correction: An alternative would be the use of a very wide memory bus and/or very fast memory which is always more expensive compared to stuffing more on-die memory. This is in itself a slight problem as it makes chip die size larger and more prone to defects during the fab process, but is ultimately cheaper than a wider bus and faster memory.
What this bs this was? Do even know where Wide Bus Memory and on-die memory are used for? These are not counterparts iTroll! Know before talking about something. Don't make yourself dum* again and again. learn grammar.
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Anonymous, 23 Oct 2022People have invested themselves in Android, they don't... moreDon't speak for the majority when you're saying your opinion ok? 👍
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- 23 Oct 2022
SShock, 23 Oct 2022If you think iPhones depreciate quickly, look at Android ph... morePeople have invested themselves in Android, they don't care about niche operating systems like iOS
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SShock, 23 Oct 2022If you think iPhones depreciate quickly, look at Android ph... moreAgree, Android loses more, iphones remains higher.
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77, 23 Oct 2022Cool, looks like will be selling my s22ultra and but the 14... moreIf you think iPhones depreciate quickly, look at Android phones. They lose 1/4 of value basically after you buy it. Then after half a year it loses another 1/3 of the worth. It's great if you're buying not so brand new phones, but sucks when you're selling and they aren't worth much in the end.
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SShock, 21 Oct 2022Currently on iPhone XR. Wanted to buy white Pixel 7 Pro and... moreCool, looks like will be selling my s22ultra and but the 14pro 1TB, I don't like apple and ios, but this 14pro looks great. At £1500 it's steeeeep price, just got offered £780 for the s22ultra. In other terms I could just buy 25grams off 24kt gold bar, and even in 3 years time it still remains what I paid, in 3 years time the 14pro will be half price loosing£750 in 2 years. Not wise thinker do, but temptations
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- 23 Oct 2022
Kangal, 23 Oct 2022That may be your preference, but objectively speaking that ... moreWow, yes I also have the Sony pro-i, and s22ultra 512gb. The old sony pro had copper cooling double Chambers, that's what you all a Pro
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Kangal, 23 Oct 2022That may be your preference, but objectively speaking that ... moreKangal, I have no issue with my s888, but it made it 35% more snappy , apps and everything was instant rather than standard s888 , it even outclassed Sg8+1 and 2, because the voltage is at 4.2c rather than 3.7, the cpu are at 80% even when on idle, that's insane, for throttling I have copper rear back plates replaced by rubbish glass back.
Do you remember mighty insane Arm cortex 15 which no phones has used at 15twp overclocked too 22twp is brutal like Buggati veron, at 18nm cores they were you can modify these A15 too insane power torque, that's why I really hate rubbish garbage 5 or 9nm SOC, I'd take a big Die core vs tiny maggot 5 or 3nm .
You seem too know alot like Sshock and Nick tegrataker superandroid .
I understand what you saying, similar too s865 power, but Gpu lacks. I was getting 80 too 95 fps on games, overclocked from 900mhz too 1200mhz , I even had cpu kicking in too help the Gpu too gain much higher frames. See the insane amount off stuffs you can do with custom Rom kernels, is unbelievable, you can over write doing command scripts on android
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- 23 Oct 2022
77, 23 Oct 2022Sd778, lmfao garbage trash p•s, . The best ultimate soc was... moreAlso, the QSD 778 is a phenomenal chipset. Based on its theoretical or synthetic benchmark, you may not be impressed, but it's up there in performance with the likes of the QC 8g1 when it comes to real-world practical performance. How? Well it's just very balanced it keeps tugging along nicely, where the high-end chips throttle and work half-cokced. Remember this is not a mid-range chipset, it's merely labelled like that, it performs equal to the QSD 860 and it is much much faster than the one-tier down, which is the QSD 765G.
So rather than throwing more power at a phone, which will barely get utilised, and comes at the expense of efficiency, a much more intelligent venture would be to use a device that can handle that power and that task much better. Have two high-quality tools rather than one Jack-of-all-Trades which compromises the experience too much.
So yeah, I would recommend people don't waste their money on the ASUS ROG. And I'm a fan-favourite, so you know I'm being sincere. Instead get the Samsung A52-S and you'll have a similar experience overall, some better and some worse. With the money you saved, throw that on the Valve SteamDeck. Overall you're going to have a much much better experience. If you're technically savvy, you can connect a NAS to your home and setup a personal Cloud Storage. And you can then do some neat things, for instance, you can play some really fun Pokemon ROM Hacks on your phone, automate it to push the files to your storage, come home and pick up your Valve SteamDeck, and continue the same game without losing progress because the Save Files are synchronised between your devices. I'm trying to 3D and Print my own case, so that I can either use my Razer JungleCat or Nintendo JoyCons with any phone I want, so that I can have a pocketable controller with me for on-the-go gaming or outdoors. For indoors, having options like the Valve SteamDeck, PS5, and Gaming PC are great alternatives.
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77, 23 Oct 2022Sd778, lmfao garbage trash p•s, . The best ultimate soc was... moreThat may be your preference, but objectively speaking that is a downgrade.
The QSD 888, 888+, and QC 8g1 were some of the worst chipsets we've had, similar to the issues we had back in 2015 with the Nvidia Tegra X1 and QSD 810. A phone should be thin, light, ergonomic and pocketable. That's why I'm a big proponent of Passive Cooling and Efficiency. I don't want to deal with "trickle charging" when I'm headed out, have to carry a Portable Battery Pack, or to wear out my Internal Battery prematurely. A way batter form of dealing with battery anxiety is to, firstly have an efficient device, secondly have healthy battery health, and thirdly take advantage of User Removable Battery. I did this when I travelled overseas with the Samsung Note 4-Exynos, and carried a slim battery in my pocket that I could hot-swap for a full-charge. It saved me from hassles many times, and I'm sad we lost such a great consumer-friendly design feature. In my books, that's a must have feature for any portable gaming console, along with microSD and Headphone Jack.
15W is unacceptable for a Small Tablet, let alone a pocket phone. For more power stuff, you need to do it in a form-factor where it would be appreciated and useful in. The norm is usually:
Under 1W for watch, ~2W for small phones, ~5W for large phones, ~8W for small tablets, ~15W for large tablets, ~25W for laptops, ~40W for thick laptops, ~80W for Mini PCs, and higher TDP for desktops, HEDT, Servers, Supercomputers.
While it's certainly nice to have a device that can "do it all" with age and maturity you realise the importance of time. That necessitiates quality over quantity. And so you try to pick the right tool for the right job. Any professional carpenter will have a tool box with high-quality tools that are dedicated for only 1-2 specific tasks. They don't fiddle with those All-in-One tools. That's why you should just grab an iPhone/Pixel for good photography, but for great photography, it's not worth fiddling with the Sony Pro-1 (I have one), but to simply upgrade directly to a DSLR or Mirrorless Camera dedicated for that task.
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Kangal, 23 Oct 2022Wait, but that was you!
" That's why iphone 13pr... moreSd778, lmfao garbage trash p•s, . The best ultimate soc was S888 at 5nm and overclocked at 15w TDP, I had my s21ultra with overclocked cpu gpu with no throttling at 40 degrees, but it was super fast, it drained battery, but not a big deal , felt like 3500mah , not 5000mah.
I hate efficiency, I want raw brutal insane power and torque, that's why I love big fie 5 or 7nm cores, because you can overclocked them very high vs these maggot 4 or 3nm rubbish Soc fabrication. The voltage current settings were changed, cpu threshold changed, with custom kernels you can alter modify lots off settings which in normal Rom kernels you can't touch or do anything, which is rubbish.
That's why I love rooting.
I always carry slim 5000mah powerbank with me,, which makes the phone at 7000mah.
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Kangal, 23 Oct 2022Wait, but that was you!
" That's why iphone 13pr... moreAgree, it uses higher bandwidth and L3 cache than Snapdragon and exynos and dimensity Kirin, but uses less RAM.
Ram is much better than L3cache. Since it stays input rather than running in background.
It's a Darwin platform vs Linux
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77, 20 Oct 2022I agree with you, since he has no clues and spewing nonsens... moreWait, but that was you!
" That's why iphone 13pro 14pro apple always uses higher cache, because there platform is fake . They use low Ram too milk you muppet out use l3cache .
18mb L3 cache on ip14p "
I don't think you know what you think you know. SShock and I have been on this platform for a long time, and we both know a thing or two. Unlike most of the readers and commenters. The point about increasing L3 cache was accurate, but it is a double-edged sword. It relies on your partners to increase their technology (TSMC) so that chips don't have voltage leak and have acceptable failure rates. It boosts the costs of the chip, and means you need to make your software take advantage of it. AMD has taken this approach from Zen1 to Zen4, and they can due to chiplet design. The memory bandwidth approach is a little different and utilmately better, but it generally comes with higher latency, so requires more architectural changes. Also they rely on partners (JEDEC) to increase their technology. Almost everything relies on technology improvements from others, eg ARM for new Cortex API/License.
My initial comment, you disagreed with, but I'll have the last laugh. The 2023 chipsets with the weird 1+2+2+3 setup, the same 4nm node, and the very similar Cortex X3, A715, and A515.... they're going to be a letdown. It won't be bad, it just won't be great, and you're the paying customer so you should be getting better. I said the same thing about the QC 8g1 more than a year ago and no-one believed me, but now everyone agrees with me. Just like how I warned everyone about the QSD 888 and they laughed at me, but again they later agreed with me.
The 2024 chips will be a proper leap. Cortex A730 is a next-gen processor, Cortex X4 might be worth it. The same Cortex A515 will be disappointing. We may even see the core configuration upgraded to 12-cores, with the ideal being something like 1+9+2. But the new node of 3nm-TSMC will bring a good efficiency uplift. The Apple A17 cores will follow a similar trend. The whole roadmap has been delayed by 1-2 years due to the pandemic.
If you need a phone now, get one with the QSD 778, it's will perform very similar to the QC 8g2 when it comes to real-world conditions. The one I recommend is the Samsung A52-S, which has decent specs and will be updated for a number of years. It will tide you over until the good chipsets in 2024.
If you are at any part sceptical, tag this comment in your browser, and come visit it in 31 March 2024. And we can see if I was accurate or inaccurate.
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- 22 Oct 2022
riyen235, 22 Oct 2022yeah, that's the niche now. Everyone had to switch or ... moreIt's not a niche. And in fact there was zero benefit to the user for the removal. Only negative. Not everyone feels the negative or realizes at some point they will. But there was literally zero benefit. Only negative effect.