Samsung Galaxy S23 with Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 tested by Geekbench
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- 22 Oct 2022
PhoneFreak45, 21 Oct 2022I understand that but for people like me who need a headpho... moreyeah, that's the niche now. Everyone had to switch or use alternative methods. I'm fine with using a dongle as I don't like carrying headphones in public.
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PhoneFreak45, 21 Oct 2022I understand that but for people like me who need a headpho... moreThat's so sad. Great they have 3.5mm and sd but are 2-8 years behind in most aspects of the phone. And yet charge way more than samsung and apple. Almost both combined in a couple models. It's crazy.
But it's not only Sony. Rog phone is ahead in many ways.
Minus the need for cdma carriers and expandability sadly.
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riyen235, 20 Oct 2022If sony gave a reliable software and hardware experience, m... moreI understand that but for people like me who need a headphone jack and card slot, they're literally the only phone company actively developing an upgrade path for me, an LG V60 user.
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77, 20 Oct 2022Hey Sshock, what phone do you have and owned? I have S22UL... moreCurrently on iPhone XR. Wanted to buy white Pixel 7 Pro and they are unobtainable for any reasonable price in this color. I think I'll just wait for Galaxy S23 after all...
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SShock, 20 Oct 2022I know what L3 cache is. The guy calling iPhone "fake ... moreHey Sshock, what phone do you have and owned?
I have S22ULTRA 512gb and Sony pro-i
The 14pro 1TB is tempting me, either sell S22ULTRA and buy 14P, don't know confused.
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mooox, 20 Oct 2022Go study android and how it works. Android (as a whole) is ... more2010 called and asked for their lame argument back.
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Hector, 20 Oct 2022Bro go on Sony reddit ask any new user who went from Samsun... moreOver heating is still a problem to a degree. And there's many other issues. Outdated hardware or newer but still behind others in hardware, lack of support, lack of availability, etc.
They cut corners in every single direction except screen resolution and then charge dramatically more than everyone else.
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SShock, 20 Oct 2022I know what L3 cache is. The guy calling iPhone "fake ... moreI agree with you, since he has no clues and spewing nonsense. You and I know, 90% on here don't know what L3, L2 cache is.
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77, 20 Oct 2022Level 3 (L3) cache is specialized memory developed to impro... moreI know what L3 cache is. The guy calling iPhone "fake platform" (whatever that even means) because he claims it relies on large L3 cache is like calling Ryzen 5800X3D "fake CPU" because it just heavily relies on L3 cache to pump out insane framerates even compared to Ryzen 7000 series or Raptor Lake CPU's. It's similar with Infinity Cache on Radeon graphic cards which is also L3 in the memory hierarchy. That doesn't make it "fake" or whatever, it's just a very clever design if you ask me. If you can find simpler means to offset a problem this way, why not use it? Alternative would be use of very wide memory bus and/or very fast memory which is always more expensive compared to stuffing more on-die memory. Which is in itself a slight problem as it makes chip die size larger and more prone to defects during fab process, but is ultimately cheaper than wider bus and faster memory.
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SShock, 18 Oct 2022Wow, if one competed in cramming as much idiocy in one post... morementioned that the Lightning cores L2 is faster now: Converting the measured latencies from nanoseconds to core cycles, we see the structural speed changes to the caches. The L1 remains at 3 cycles which is massively impressive given its 128KB size. The L2 cache has been reduced from 16 cycles down to 14 cycles, which is again extremely impressive given its purported 8MB physical size. Accounting for the core’s frequency increase, we do more noticeably see that the structural memory latency has increased a bit on the A13, adding about 21-22 cycles. It’s possible that the microarchitectural changes that made the SLC so much faster this generation had a knock-on effect in adding more total latency to DRAM.
The L2 cache size also has evidently increased. Last year we estimated that the small core cluster had 2MB of shared L2, but was partitioned in such as way that a given core only has access to about 1.5MB, and this depth depended on the power management policy and DVFS state of the cores, appearing to only have access to 512KB when at the lowest performance states.
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Anonymous, 18 Oct 2022Most of those 100 apps that you opened would have been clos... more22gb Ram, with overclocked L3 cache L2 cache, L1 cache, that's custom Rom with kernel, that you showed me is standard trash garbage junk.
Mines Rooted. With double L3 cache, I've reduced the memory apps off each by 30mb, while on standard every apps you open takes app MB by 50 too 200mb.
Go learn command scripts on android java language and coding.
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SShock, 18 Oct 2022Wow, if one competed in cramming as much idiocy in one post... moreBecause they think it helps process tasks their customers do faster
They don't think the cache helps enough relative to other things (costs, capabilities, benefits)
A typical SOC at these die sizes is probably $10-15 for the company, including R&D, but an extra 16mb of cache costs about $1 in extra die space. Which multiplied by 100 million chips equates to $100m
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SShock, 18 Oct 2022Wow, if one competed in cramming as much idiocy in one post... moreApple is vertically integrated, so they don’t have to be as sensitive about the cost of parts. There are fewer companies taking a cut out of every Apple processor that Apple sells in an Apple device.
In contrast Qualcomm has to sell processors to many different companies, so they have to worry about the cost of their final part more. Because they have to leave room for those other companies in the middle to also get their slice.
TL;DR: Apple is only worried about the profit margin on the final product, not necessarily the margins on every part that goes into the product.
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SShock, 18 Oct 2022Wow, if one competed in cramming as much idiocy in one post... moreL3 cache is important for gaming because it can help improve game performance. L3 cache is important for gaming because it can help improve game performance. L3 cache is a type of cache that is built into the CPU. It is used to store frequently accessed data so that it can be quickly accessed by the CPU.
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SShock, 18 Oct 2022Wow, if one competed in cramming as much idiocy in one post... moreLevel 3 (L3) cache is specialized memory developed to improve the performance of L1 and L2. L1 or L2 can be significantly faster than L3, though L3 is usually double the speed of DRAM. With multicore processors, each core can have dedicated L1 and L2 cache, but they can share an L3 cache.
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OhNom, 19 Oct 2022i7-12900 is 25MB with 12 cores and much more space than a p... moreAgree, A16 uses 16mb L3 cache, while on android uses 12mb L3 cache, because android uses 12mb Ram, low L3 cache is cheap vs pure virtual Ram. Apple is very cheap and they love ripping milking the muppetsss fans customer
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riyen235, 20 Oct 2022If sony gave a reliable software and hardware experience, m... moreBro go on Sony reddit ask any new user who went from Samsung to Sony and they all say the Overheating issue is no more...but about Software updates I agree. If they give 3 years of OS updates, it will absolutely sell like hotcakes!
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Ah yes the Samsung S22...with a new processor
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- 20 Oct 2022
mooox, 20 Oct 2022Go study android and how it works. Android (as a whole) is ... moreThat's mostly related to ancient inefficient chipsets. Most smartwatches for Android devices either run some low end chipset (mostly feature "smart" watches), you recognize those by battery that lasts for days or even weeks. Those that run WearOS have more powerful and inefficient chipsets. And they are all mostly ancient designs from years ago. It's only Samsung's W920 chipset that has been slightly more modern and efficient. Apple Watches on the other hand always run state of the art modern chipsets with software specifically tailored for those chipsets. It's why Apple Watches are always on whole different level of smoothness and performance. Downside of that is still battery life. But I rather charge my watch every day than see it stutter even once during use. It has been super smooth since day 1. Galaxy Watches running W920 chipsets are pretty close to that, which is why they are probably the smoothest other smartwatches in market.
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SShock, 18 Oct 2022And Android users are all about hard hitting specs on paper... moreActually, the Android hardware is really much better than anything from Apple.
Your points don't make sense: pixel binning is better for low light (iPhones adopting it a few years behind the curve), more storage and memory is better (even iPhones had to increase storage and memory eventually), bigger screen is better (iPhones adopting behind the curve again), more refresh rate is desirable (shall we highlight who is the late adopter again, for their flagship phones but not the phones for the plebs)? Shall I also highlight bigger battery for you, while not pointing out that amazingly newer iPhones also increase their battery capacity over time (despite the iSheep insisting that iPhones had fantastic battery life but were wall huggers in real life).
Everything that the Fanboys rave about, Apple adopted. Essentially, everything that the android fanboys talk about, Apple admitted it is better, and followed a few years after on their flagship phones while leaving the old technologies that apple fanboys said were good for their cheap phones.
As you mentioned, it's meaningless as you obviously don't understand stuff. Data retention has nothing to do with the amount of memory. Not sure if you realized that you boast about having Bionic chipsets having bigger numbers just before you say "big numbers are meaningless".
That said, I'm of the view that Android is built rather differently compared to iOS. Android was built assuming there will be infinite CPU and memory resources, while iOS was built for the amount of CPU and memory resources available. No matter what hardware you have running Android, it will never truly be "sufficient". I would go as far as to call Android inefficient and bloated, partially because of the Google surveillance and flexibility built into the OS.