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- joe nodden
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Sin, 11 Feb 2023That is what I am saying Buying a phone just too get the... moreYou never listen. 🤦♂️
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joe nodden, 09 Feb 2023"Yeah the new Nubia red magic 8 is good"
No need... moreI have explained gaming is a expensive hobby
The hardware requirements more expensive than they should be
It's unfortunate situation as in 2023 even so the processor is improving the ram amount actually going backwards and even so SSD storage exist it's still not standardized for gaming phones
I was expecting the new gaming phone be better then the older ones in every way
If you look at the progress from the red magic 1 up too red magic 6s pro it makes sense but after this gotten stuck at 18gb ram for now
The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 support up too a maximum of 24gb ram yet no phone made with more than 16gb ram
I have heard it could be too do with no such high speed ram sticks a available right now at this capacity
Ufs 4.0 storage is great but hopefully SSD drive storage will become standardized sooner or later and 1tb storage for flagships be normal
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joe nodden, 09 Feb 2023"Yeah the new Nubia red magic 8 is good"
No need... moreThat is what I am saying
Buying a phone just too get the latest Snapdragon 8 gen 2 but then cheap out like a cheapskate on ram & storage and cooling system
Yes it's doing and gives good FPS on flagship killers and similar but there are limitations
But no the performance of the maximum spec version of the gaming phone are still better at gaming
Yeah a true phone built for gaming be maximum spec possible in every way possible as ram & storage help the soc in gaming
A bigger storage amount not only more storage room but faster with more swoop space better endurance then the smaller storage amounts
Ram having the additional ram still improves performance in the system ul and gaming stability
Having stuff running in system ram also takes load of the storage making the system faster
The red magic 8 pro+ maximum spec version 16gb ram & 1tb the best gaming phone right now and can game better than any other phone
It's not perfect has few very sad downgrade from last year's more impressive red magic 7s 165hz screen & 18gb ram from red magic 7s pro
But overall best all around package is maximum spec red magic 8 pro+
A lot of sillyness with spec drawoffs
Some battery size 5000mah or 6000mah going on as well with Nubia red magic 8 phones
Lenovo & Asus still waiting till they make there gaming phone for this year
The cooling system have gotten better over the years
So they do work and the cooling system do work and are getting better on every new model
None gaming phone just aren't as good at gaming
Just watch in game FPS overheating problems main problem
The only way a flagship killers going keep up with a gaming phone is with overclocking rooting custom ROM and holding a block of ice on the back of them too keep up that level of performance
Game developers don't do anyone any favours as I said before should try too target less powerful cheaper phone
As people shouldn't need too spend a lot of money just buy a phone just too play mobile games smoothly
- joe nodden
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- 09 Feb 2023
Sin, 07 Feb 2023Yeah the new Nubia red magic 8 is good
I get that flagsh... more"Yeah the new Nubia red magic 8 is good"
No need to say it twice.
"I get that flagship killer exist that are cheaper but they have Snapdragon 870 most often and serious problems with storage space just being very limited space of only 128gb or 256gb"
Examples? Like what on Earth are you talking about? The K40 maybe? When the K60 series is out? And 256 gigs is not limited at all.
"The path android gaming is heading full size pc games are coming too android the lower storage modals have problems with big game library or possibly just a few storage hogs of games that grow bigger from updates"
Even the Red Magic 8 Pro has a 128 gig base storage option, buddy. Gaming phones don't magically have more storage. 🤦♂️
"Also android os don't manage background apps ram usage well and let's apps hog system resources in background"
8 gigs is enough.
"It's possible this app ram background usage problem being dealt with by newer gaming phone but android os as a lot of issues Google should have suited out not leave it up too phone brands try too figure out individually find there own solution"
Cheaper non-gaming phones also deal with it. 🤦♂️
"Gaming smartphones do have a lot of advantages over none gaming phone"
You've learned absolutely nothing, congratulations.
"Not only hardware but also in software"
Nope.
"Red magic os or Lenovo legion os or Rog ul all are focused on gaming"
Skins that, at most, get 1 single update.
"There software lets you control many settings like chipset block calls notifications having buttons gaming mode game launcher being too overclock CPU GPU ram control fan speed"
Congrats, go ahead and block calls and notifications on your phone so you can play games. That makes total sense right. 🤦♂️ And we've already gone over how a dinky little fan can't handle an inferno like the 888 and 8 Gen 1, let alone overclock them or other chips. You want to go ahead and have your game stutter due to thermal throttling? By all means, buy a horrible gaming phone for that purpose. That dinky little fan isn't gonna do a thing.
"Optimization that are unique too gaming phone"
Some of those are not.
"The touch screen responsness is also better on gaming phone less input delay"
😂 You think your phone being able to register touches at a rate of 960hz is gonna make you better at games? Your phone only displays, at most, 120 frames in a second. (If you get the newest Red Magic phones, because ZTE was sane enough to realize people don't actually need 165hz displays in a phone) Buddy you've got a reaction time of hundreds of milliseconds. An extra 1 or 2 is never gonna make a difference at all in your whole life.
"Gaming is a expensive hobby it don't come cheap"
Keep telling yourself that.
"Still all gamer's want value for money"
Good thing you can get cheaper non-gaming phones that are better at gaming than gaming phones.
"The reason the Lenovo legion y90 so good because of the all round package and it's pricing is more affordable than most other gaming phones as well"
Yet, it costs more than cheaper non-gaming phones that are better at gaming. 🤔 It's almost as if I've said this probably somewhere between 20 and 30 times already and you've ignored it just about every time.
"It depends on what is available and at what pricing"
Which is why cheaper non-gaming phones that are better at gaming are better.
"But more overall specs is better"
Which is why cheaper non-gaming phones that are better at gaming are better.
"I get it is possible buy a none gaming phone at a possibility lower pricing and custom ROM and overclocked them heavily get very good FPS at low price"
Oh wow you actually listened for once. Though you're wrong again. You don't need to overclock a chip that's already faster while at stock speeds.
"This why the flagship killer exist it fills this role OnePlus ximomi realme Nubia all made such phones"
OnePlus hasn't made a flagship killer in 4 years. Xiaomi, which you spelled wrong, makes cheaper non-gaming phones that are better at gaming than gaming phones. Realme does as well. The ZTE Z50 applies as well. Though ZTE is really the only one that makes decent gaming phones, but the Z50 is cheaper than those with the same chipset.
"But there are drawbacks too such phones
As mentioned"
No, not really. A lack of a couple useless gimmicks here and there aren't real drawbacks.
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joe nodden, 06 Feb 2023"There is the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 out now that is the b... moreYeah the new Nubia red magic 8 is good
I get that flagship killer exist that are cheaper but they have Snapdragon 870 most often and serious problems with storage space just being very limited space of only 128gb or 256gb
The path android gaming is heading full size pc games are coming too android the lower storage modals have problems with big game library or possibly just a few storage hogs of games that grow bigger from updates
Also android os don't manage background apps ram usage well and let's apps hog system resources in background
It's possible this app ram background usage problem being dealt with by newer gaming phone but android os as a lot of issues Google should have suited out not leave it up too phone brands try too figure out individually find there own solution
Gaming smartphones do have a lot of advantages over none gaming phone
Not only hardware but also in software
Red magic os or Lenovo legion os or Rog ul all are focused on gaming
There software lets you control many settings like chipset block calls notifications having buttons gaming mode game launcher being too overclock CPU GPU ram control fan speed
Optimization that are unique too gaming phone
The touch screen responsness is also better on gaming phone less input delay
Gaming is a expensive hobby it don't come cheap
Still all gamer's want value for money
The reason the Lenovo legion y90 so good because of the all round package and it's pricing is more affordable than most other gaming phones as well
It depends on what is available and at what pricing
But more overall specs is better
I get it is possible buy a none gaming phone at a possibility lower pricing and custom ROM and overclocked them heavily get very good FPS at low price
This why the flagship killer exist it fills this role OnePlus ximomi realme Nubia all made such phones
But there are drawbacks too such phones
As mentioned
- joe nodden
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- 06 Feb 2023
Sin , 05 Feb 2023There is the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 out now that is the best it... more"There is the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 out now that is the best it's also make by tsmc"
Yeah, I know.
"So the new Nubia red magic 8 pro+ is generally good"
Yeah, I know. But not because it's a gaming phone. Because it makes sense as a regular phone. The display is as bezel-less as they come in addition to an under display camera. The design isn't full of the disgusting "gamer" bs. It's not absurdly thick like previous Red Magics. The price is right. There aren't better cheaper non-gaming phones in this instance.
"The Lenovo legion y90 is definitely not obsolete"
No, it is obsolete.
"It can definitely run any game"
Not as well as cheaper non-gaming phones. So it's obsolete.
"SSD 128gb drive storage 512ufs in raid 18gb ram Snapdragon 8 gen 1 still good for gaming"
Only the chipset matters and it's a horrible inferno of a chip.
"The built in fan's means it performs well and has stable FPS in gaming" Not if you look at tests. It doesn't outperform cheaper non-gaming phones without active cooling because they have better chipsets made by TSMC, not by Samsung who only knows how to make horrible infernos.
"I won't go older than Snapdragon 870 but most last year's gaming phone are good"
There's no point to getting a gaming phone at all if you're buying one that's worse at gaming than cheaper non-gaming phones. I must've said this at least a couple dozen times now. When are you going to understand?
"If you're into gaming the best tool for the job is the gaming phone they move response touch screen and gaming button better cooling so you actually get the full performance out of the chipset they get as well as screen designed for it as well"
No, like I said before active cooling does not outperform a more efficient chipset. And those gimmicks are nothing compared to better performance.
"None gaming phone can play games but there not designed for it and sufficient overheating problems and issues that lead too reduced performance"
No, like I said multiple times in this comment, active cooling still leads to overheating in an inefficient chip. A dinky little fan isn't gonna do much. A properly made chip doesn't need active cooling.
"It's possible too lose a considerable amount of performance from lack of cooling system this is why gaming laptop & gaming pc also have fan's so the gaming phone equipment needs fan's"
Not unless you've got a horrible inferno of a chip. And you're comparing apples to oranges here. PCs and laptops have somewhat infernos of chips, but it's because they're all X86 chips. Phones use more efficient ARM chips. You need to actively cool most X86 chips. Although you could still not. If you slightly underclock/undervolt a chip it'll run a lot cooler and you can usually get away with slapping a big heatsink on it with no fan.
"Just because a slightly better soc exists don't make old one obsolete"
It does when the having a worse soc defeats the entire purpose of the phone.
"Benchmarks don't translate well too real would performance they only estate"
They do translate well, otherwise they'd be useless and nobody would use them.
"There are YouTube channel that do real would gaming tests"
And they show the same results as the benchmarks.
"Golden viewer or geekerman"
I know about Golden Reviewer. If you watched his videos you would know that I'm right.
"I struggle too see even the most hardcore gamer upgrading every 4 mouths too a new phone just have the best chipset slight difference between them in performance if any at all"
I already said, "Neither am I. But if you don't, it's defeating the point of owning a gaming phone." I mean I'm arguing that gaming phones are a horrible idea here. Ofc it makes no sense to upgrade every 4 months, but if you don't, your gaming phone is gonna be worse than cheaper non-gaming phones. Will you finally understand?
"As mentioned below chipset can only perform as well as the cooling system will let it sometimes there is overlap in performance or game depending"
As mentioned above, properly made chipsets don't need active cooling. And even if you throw liquid nitrogen at a chip, the performance gains depreciate very quickly as you try sacrificing efficiency for more performance. Hence why Samsung makes horrible chips. They can't compete with their less efficient architectures so they dump more energy into the chips and make them run hotter and less stable.
"Game developers often don't do the hardware any favours"
Then, if you think that, maybe you shouldn't be buying a "gaming" phone with an outdated SoC that's not good for gaming.
"Being able set game run at 480p 720p 1080p 1440p or 4k and being able pick run at 60fps 90fps 120fps 144fps 165fps 240fps
As well as having ultra graphics unlocked or have potato graphics settings as options
All options like this should be done by game developers"
Similar options do exist in tons of games. Not always that in depth but to a certain degree. Though no phone is capable of 240 fps in any proper game with any bearable graphics.
"As phone exist of all of there's possiblitys sometimes a game don't scale too the screen size of a smartphone or fit right"
Not the size. Sometimes games go off display resolution which can cause issues in some phones. Though properly made games don't.
"Budget smartphone suffer from performance problems from lack of potato graphics settings"
Not ones with SoCs better than some "gaming" phones.
"flagship can have something like ultra graphics locked out or be a stuck at 60fps"
That is sometimes and issue yes.
"There's a lot game developers could do better"
Yes but they usually do better than what you seem to believe.
"I just don't see all the fuss about the soc"
Oh it's only the thing that determines how well you run the game on your "gaming" phone, no big deal right?
"There isn't anything the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 can do that the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 can't do"
It can go 10 minutes without overheating. It can run games properly. I'd like to see the 8 Gen 1 do that. 😂
"If Snapdragon 8 gen 1 isn't enough how is Snapdragon 8 gen 2 so good"
Because it's more efficient, faster, and everything. Big shocker I know.
"Samsung rather rubbish at making chipset"
Yeah.
"Soc matter but the gab between them in performance needs too be a meaningful difference between them of performance"
Good thing there's almost always a meaningful difference. Except when Qualcomm downgrades from TSMC to Samsung.
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joe nodden, 04 Feb 2023"I have readed what you're saying but people don&... moreI struggle too see even the most hardcore gamer upgrading every 4 mouths too a new phone just have the best chipset slight difference between them in performance if any at all
Possiblity every year updating every year be realistic but the benefits of the newer gaming phone are small
As mentioned below chipset can only perform as well as the cooling system will let it sometimes there is overlap in performance or game depending
Game developers often don't do the hardware any favours
Being able set game run at 480p 720p 1080p 1440p or 4k and being able pick run at 60fps 90fps 120fps 144fps 165fps 240fps
As well as having ultra graphics unlocked or have potato graphics settings as options
All options like this should be done by game developers
As phone exist of all of there's possiblitys sometimes a game don't scale too the screen size of a smartphone or fit right
Budget smartphone suffer from performance problems from lack of potato graphics settings
flagship can have something like ultra graphics locked out or be a stuck at 60fps
There's a lot game developers could do better
I just don't see all the fuss about the soc
There isn't anything the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 can do that the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 can't do
If Snapdragon 8 gen 1 isn't enough how is Snapdragon 8 gen 2 so good
Rather similar performance Samsung rather rubbish at making chipset more like 2 year's difference but still
Soc matter but the gab between them in performance needs too be a meaningful difference between them of performance
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joe nodden, 04 Feb 2023"I have readed what you're saying but people don&... moreThere is the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 out now that is the best it's also make by tsmc
So the new Nubia red magic 8 pro+ is generally good
It's power efficiency and increased battery size
This should give a noticeable battery life improvements for extended periods of time gaming
The Lenovo legion y90 is definitely not obsolete
It can definitely run any game
SSD 128gb drive storage 512ufs in raid 18gb ram Snapdragon 8 gen 1 still good for gaming
The built in fan's means it performs well and has stable FPS in gaming
I won't go older than Snapdragon 870 but most last year's gaming phone are good
If you're into gaming the best tool for the job is the gaming phone they move response touch screen and gaming button better cooling so you actually get the full performance out of the chipset they get as well as screen designed for it as well
None gaming phone can play games but there not designed for it and sufficient overheating problems and issues that lead too reduced performance
It's possible too lose a considerable amount of performance from lack of cooling system this is why gaming laptop & gaming pc also have fan's so the gaming phone equipment needs fan's
Just because a slightly better soc exists don't make old one obsolete
Benchmarks don't translate well too real would performance they only estate
There are YouTube channel that do real would gaming tests
Golden viewer or geekerman
Are the best I know of
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- 04 Feb 2023
Sin, 03 Feb 2023I have readed what you're saying but people don't... more"I have readed what you're saying but people don't need too upgrade every 6 mouths is what am saying"
Neither am I. But if you don't, it's defeating the point of owning a gaming phone. And you're also saying you should buy gaming phones with outdated SoCs.
"Based of Morse law technology soc will double in performance ever 2 year's"
Doesn't relate.
"Yes a Snapdragon 835 is still capable of gaming you need lower graphics settings down and target 60 FPS possiblity a painful 30 FPS in really heavy games"
So in other words it isn't capable of gaming.
"It's possible the 1440p panel might be a problem but I know the Nubia red magic 1 can run games"
It's ok, it's nowhere near capable of running games at 1440p, they only run at like 720p tops because devs usually aren't halfwits. Usually. Sometimes they are.
"But it would be worthwhile upgrade too new gaming phone at this point"
No. It would be worthwhile to upgrade to a new non-gaming phone that is just as performant as a more expensive gaming phone.
"I definitely won't suggest buying a old gaming smartphone"
You already did. You literally made the foolish claim, "The Lenovo legion y90 even so it's not the latest gaming smartphone probably has the best performance". And you probably made more claims like that but I'm not digging for any more.
"but the best and second best soc are not really a noticeable difference in performance"
No, they are. Especially when cheaper non-gaming phones have the best SoCs.
"The difference between the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 and 888 isn't a lot"
There isn't a big difference because they're both horrible Samsung chips.
"I do wish more in-depth research and analysis was done on what performance we are looking at"
So do it. Literally tons of performance benchmarks exist.
"There's only a few people who research this"
False.
"I heard you said you can have open multi games at same time on 8gb ram phone 16gb ram pc
But you can even more open with 32gb ram and switch between them without even needing too reload"
I don't need them to reload. Why the hell would I mention how I can keep multiple open at once if I needed them to reload every time I access them. They're running in the background just fine.
"If just only 8gb ram is all u need that's fine"
It's all anyone needs in a phone. It's not a bad thing to have more but it's almost useless.
"I guess the point should be made that mid range phone and older flagship and gaming smartphone can still game there just not as good as it"
Current "mid range" phones with the highest end SoC are just as capable as any gaming phone at gaming. How many times do I need to say this.
"Obsolete only when games unplayable and so unpleasant experience trying game"
The Y90 was obsolete when you mentioned it because it had an outdated SoC and was outclassed heavily in what was supposed to be its selling point, by new mid range phones with higher end SoCs. Every gaming phone with an outdated SoC is obsolete.
"Am not the best at short reply
Something I need try too work on sadly"
Work on your English first.
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Zach, 10 Jan 2023 this SD G3X more powerful because it’s dedicated for gamin... moreYeah it's a good processor
It beats the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 but by small amount
Snapdragon gx3 is good but only tiny improvement but only half the ram capacity on Android OS with this handheld
Anyway the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is out now
With improvements too power efficiency as well
The difference between is small and only a small FPS difference but do double the ram capacity will make big difference
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joe nodden, 26 Nov 2022Please just read and learn bruh.
"Smartphone usuall... moreI have readed what you're saying but people don't need too upgrade every 6 mouths is what am saying
Based of Morse law technology soc will double in performance ever 2 year's
Although Morse law has slowed down a lot so it probably take every 3/4 year's double in hardware
If someone brought a original razor phone
Yes a Snapdragon 835 is still capable of gaming you need lower graphics settings down and target 60 FPS possiblity a painful 30 FPS in really heavy games
It's possible the 1440p panel might be a problem but I know the Nubia red magic 1 can run games
But it would be worthwhile upgrade too new gaming phone at this point
I definitely won't suggest buying a old gaming smartphone not this old today especially considering flagship killers can be found for around 300 but there is a catch too them mostly ram & storage amount
Soc definitely important if you're after high refresh rate gaming but the best and second best soc are not really a noticeable difference in performance
The difference between the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 and 888 isn't a lot
I do wish more in-depth research and analysis was done on what performance we are looking at
There's only a few people who research this
The geekerman did a really helpful video on this topic
I can do fairly reasonable estimate
I heard you said you can have open multi games at same time on 8gb ram phone 16gb ram pc
But you can even more open with 32gb ram and switch between them without even needing too reload
No phone has 32gb ram sadly but 18gb still pretty solid
If just only 8gb ram is all u need that's fine
But this is a budget smartphone ram capacity of today
Yeah storage speed helps a lot as well as having extra space
I guess the point should be made that mid range phone and older flagship and gaming smartphone can still game there just not as good as it
Obsolete only when games unplayable and so unpleasant experience trying game
Am not the best at short reply
Something I need try too work on sadly
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Anonymous , 31 Jan 2023Just look at your length of replies. I apologize for being literate and able to type long replies quickly.
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joe nodden, 31 Jan 2023Yeah I work at an airport why do you ask. Just look at your length of replies.
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Anonymous , 31 Jan 2023Don't you two have jobs?Yeah I work at an airport why do you ask.
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joe nodden, 26 Nov 2022Please just read and learn bruh. "Smartphone usuall... moreDon't you two have jobs?
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Zach, 10 Jan 2023 this SD G3X more powerful because it’s dedicated for gamin... moreIt's a rebranded 888 lol
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Sin, 23 Nov 2022Smartphone usually a few years till they become obsolete ... more this SD G3X more powerful because it’s dedicated for gaming and its “Snapdragon’s best chipset”
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- 26 Nov 2022
Sin, 23 Nov 2022Smartphone usually a few years till they become obsolete
... morePlease just read and learn bruh.
"Smartphone usually a few years till they become obsolete"
I'm not explaining this again. Read what I said before.
"Even the oldest gaming smartphones can game"
No, the Razer Phone cannot game.
"the Snapdragon 888 is better than any budget or mid range chipset today"
(1) That's not the chip in the oldest gaming phone.
(2) Why are you comparing the recent 888 to low end and mid range chips when hardly any low end chips have been released since the 888 came out.
(3) Why are you even comparing the 888 to low end and mid range chips? Most of them are scams and I've given you examples of low end phones with high end chips?
"The processor don't become obsolete till either it comes unable too play games smoothly or budget processor get better then them"
I'm not explaining this again. Read what I said before.
"A 1 or 2 year old flagship processor still good especially when paired with other good specs"
No, not when it's worse at gaming than newer SoCs found in cheaper non-gaming phones. I've already explained this multiple times bro. Do you not know how to read?
"Although ram prices are really low in pc case"
How on Earth does this have anything to do with phones needing more memory? If anything it's an argument to not put unnecessary expensive parts in a phone.
"In the case of games there is generally a problem with game developers making games too heavy making it very hard for high refresh rate gaming experience difficult"
In the case of games there is generally a problem with phone SoCs being far too weak to run them properly. Hence why most frame drops come when the SoC overheats and thermally throttles.
"Gaming smartphone manufacturers could just put a 60hz screen on a gaming smartphone
But it upset gamers"
It shouldn't, considering games are the one thing phones can hardly run above 60 fps. Whether that be due to the 60 fps limit found in pretty much every mobile game, or due to the phones being too weak to handle it.
"Gaming smartphone could have 8gb ram but again
More ram is better at multi tasking"
and I said "and I said "My PC has 16 and I legit keep multiple games open at once because I've got more than enough RAM to do it" but you ignored that."
I've literally had to quote myself quoting myself because you don't know how to read.
"There a lot of problems with the ram management system on Android with app Storage so ram usage can get shocking high
Can easily max out 8gb ram it is possible"
No. No no no. You don't understand that problem. Android's RAM management issue is one that it makes it difficult to take advantage of 8 gigs. I'm not sure if they've fixed the issue or not because this was an issue like 5 years ago and I haven't looked into that since then, but either way you don't understand the problem.
"Same case with windows could max out 16gb RAM usage easily on either"
Congratulations buddy you're telling the guy with 16 gigs of RAM that runs multiple games at once how easy it is to max out 16 gigs. Think about that.
"Ram is a underrated spec"
Overrated by people like you who think "durrr hurrr big numbers for ram so big performance"
"Storage speed is also a understand rated spec"
It doesn't hurt to have faster storage but with a slow SoC it's not gonna do anything for you.
"The Lenovo legion y90 even so it's not the latest gaming smartphone probably has the best performance due too the SSD storage & 18gb ram supporting the Snapdragon 8 gen 1"
It has a horrible 8 Gen 1, so no, it does not have the best performance. Even the dinky little cooling fans hardly do a thing to cool that horrendously designed inferno of a chip. Go watch a performance test of it. I saw one where it gets hot enough to give you first degree burns (over 122 degrees Fahrenheit) and the fps dropped a ton.
"There are other maybe a argument could be made the Nubia red magic 7s pro is best in performance due too 1tb storage & 18gb ram and latest processor"
Currently, yes it is due to having the 8+ Gen 1.But that will change soon when the 8 Gen 2 launches. Then it will be obsolete.
"It's also possible the Asus Rog 6d could be best in performance as it has mediatek dimensity 9000+ 18gb ram & but 512gb storage"
The Dimensity 9000+ is close to the 8+ Gen 1 but just a hair off.
"In the case of the razer handheld the 8gb ram only just good enough"
What matters is the SoC.
"The phone all trade blows in performance the razer handheld should be 2 or 3 FPS better than the other or something similar"
Once again you're not giving me a source. I asked where you're getting your information from before but you ignored that of course.
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joe nodden, 26 Oct 2022Can you please just read.
"I think The Lenovo legio... moreSmartphone usually a few years till they become obsolete
Even the oldest gaming smartphones can game
the Snapdragon 888 is better than any budget or mid range chipset today
The processor don't become obsolete till either it comes unable too play games smoothly or budget processor get better then them
A 1 or 2 year old flagship processor still good especially when paired with other good specs
In the case of your pc
You said 16gb ram you have and it's plenty
If that's all you need them ok
Although ram prices are really low in pc case
In the case of games there is generally a problem with game developers making games too heavy making it very hard for high refresh rate gaming experience difficult
Gaming smartphone manufacturers could just put a 60hz screen on a gaming smartphone
But it upset gamers
Gaming smartphone could have 8gb ram but again
More ram is better at multi tasking
There a lot of problems with the ram management system on Android with app Storage so ram usage can get shocking high
Can easily max out 8gb ram it is possible
Same case with windows could max out 16gb RAM usage easily on either
Ram is a underrated spec
Storage speed is also a understand rated spec
The Lenovo legion y90 even so it's not the latest gaming smartphone probably has the best performance due too the SSD storage & 18gb ram supporting the Snapdragon 8 gen 1
Plus it has built-in fans
There are other maybe a argument could be made the Nubia red magic 7s pro is best in performance due too 1tb storage & 18gb ram and latest processor
It's also possible the Asus Rog 6d could be best in performance as it has mediatek dimensity 9000+ 18gb ram & but 512gb storage
In the case of the razer handheld the 8gb ram only just good enough
Storage is limited has SD card slot that's a plus
The processor good but not noticeable better and cooling system is qustenable
It's not as powerful overall as the others and as all are very similar in performance there could be overlapping and difficulties finding a winner in gaming performance
The phone all trade blows in performance the razer handheld should be 2 or 3 FPS better than the other or something similar
But we need in depth game testing in many different games too know for sure
With ever gaming smartphone and headheld
The pc will definitely win if build powerful enough in every category
unless compatibility reasons with x86 architecture is a problem that stops a game from running or similar
- joe nodden
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- 26 Oct 2022
Sin, 23 Oct 2022I think The Lenovo legion y90 is worth taking a look at
T... moreCan you please just read.
"I think The Lenovo legion y90 is worth taking a look at" No a "gaming" phone with an obsolete SoC is not worth taking a look at.
"The performance and improvements of extra ram will be best seen in switching between tabs in the browser dual screen mode multi tasking and more" and I said "My PC has 16 and I legit keep multiple games open at once because I've got more than enough RAM to do it" but you ignored that.
"If your saying the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1+ is crap the Qualcomm Snapdragon G3x Gen 1 is only a little better in performance so nether any good or both are kinda good" I never said that. Quote me saying that. And it's the 8+ Gen 1 not the 8 Gen 1+.
"That is game developers fault that mobile processor can't run mobile games at good fps" No, you said it yourself, "A desktop i9 13900ks & rtx 4090ti will crush them both by miles in gaming and performance". It's not a dev's fault that phones are weak.
"A gaming smartphone will have the longest life of any smartphone because there the most future proof in hardware performance and overall specs" Except that's literally not at all the case for your beloved Legion Y90 that you recommend. Not when cheaper, non-gaming phones like the K50 Ultra exist that are better at running games due to having better SoCs. Hence, like I said before, why phones like the Y90 are obsolete.