Weekly poll: do flagship chipsets still matter?

20 November 2022
Do you have to have the latest top of the line chip or is an older one okay? Or even a mid-range chip?

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  • Anonymous
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  • 22 Nov 2022

I don't need the latest one. An 865 is sufficient.

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    • Anonymous
    • MSK
    • 22 Nov 2022

    Sin, 22 Nov 2022physics don't stop smartphones from getting more power... moreSure progress won't stop that's needless to discuss. Just, the day phones equal current desktop/laptops, the latter will still be ahead for same reason, physics. That day you won't be happy again and say we need Snapdragon 8 gen 27, 480 GB RAM whatever. That would be endless chase.

    Being a gamer, get gaming phone then. OEMs maybe could do more if it was profitable, not all people are gamers though. I'm not sure if you ever be happy... wait, you said it - no.

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      • Anonymous
      • yAJ
      • 22 Nov 2022

      Anonymous, 22 Nov 2022But most of the people who would struggle with a thicker ph... moreYes, but thicker phone made it worse. From near unreachable to unreachable. It makes smaller phone hard to reach across the screen as well.

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        • Anonymous
        • yAJ
        • 22 Nov 2022

        Sin, 22 Nov 2022We still have a long way too go till smartphone will be pow... moreBy what you said, there will never be a day a PC/phone or whatever with more than enough performance...

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          • Sin
          • pYQ
          • 22 Nov 2022

          Anonymous, 22 Nov 2022It does function as PC already. (personally don't have... morephysics don't stop smartphones from getting more powerful

          There are mini PC the size of smartphones with 64gb ram amount 2tb SSD & i9 CPU with gtx 1650

          Not necessary the best pc but that's not the point am making this can be done at smartphone size

          It's more due too lack of cooling and available parts
          And manufacturers just not doing what is possible

          It should be possible too have 24gb ram on smartphones & fast SSD storage

          The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 & mediatek dimensity 9200
          Support up too 24gb ram

          Ufs storage gos up too 1tb so far I seen
          And SSD storage & ufs storage be put in raid 0

          Smartphones like the Lenovo legion y90 or the Nubia red magic 7s pro show what has already been done

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            • Anonymous
            • MSK
            • 22 Nov 2022

            Sin, 22 Nov 2022If a smartphone costs the price of a pc It should be capa... moreIt does function as PC already. (personally don't have PC and use it for all "PC" tasks) Asking for phone being equal to PC/laptop in performance is obviously unreal simply due to less space in phone thus smaller chip, battery, cooling. Your wishes can't change physics. Gamers...

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              • Sin
              • pYQ
              • 22 Nov 2022

              If a smartphone costs the price of a pc
              It should be capable of doing all of the same tasks as a pc

              Flagship smartphones really are expensive
              So the job of portable pc comes too mind for it for them

              Plus yeah definitely want too future proof you're gaming performance if you can

              Paying a price premium for a smartphone is for multi tasking purposes And heavy power users

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                • Sin
                • pYQ
                • 22 Nov 2022

                Anonymous, 22 Nov 2022Fan in a phone is bit inconvenient. And could you explain t... moreThe flagship Snapdragon or mediatek processors of today

                Snapdragon 888
                Snapdragon 888+
                Snapdragon 8 gen 1
                Snapdragon 8 gen 1+
                Snapdragon 8 gen 2
                Snapdragon gen 2+
                Mediatek dimensity 9000
                Mediatek dimensity 9000+
                Mediatek dimensity 9200
                Mediatek dimensity 9200+

                All of there's have a lot in common similar performance

                In gaming any of there's will struggle too hold 60fps in genshin impart

                League of Legends makes smartphones very hot
                And probably is why fans are needed

                Mobile legends bang bang make smartphones hot

                But gamer's might want 240fps so we got a long way too go even getting 120fps will be a real struggle

                Due too lack performance

                Android has a terrible ram management system
                So app storage of apps can't sit in cold storage
                So background ram usage can get massive from game library storage yes there's many different android games

                Then there's web browser and a single browser tap can use up too a full 1gb ram
                So you can only switch between 32 browser taps without needing to reload the page again from the start in theory

                So huge amounts of ram are needed just too run smoothly lighting fast and instant responsiveness in the os Ul & browser alone

                It's faster too load from ram then from storage so the more you can of open just in ram the better

                Then there the possibility of multi tasking and using app clone and dual screen mode and screen overlays on top could be doing more then 1 task at a time

                Then there's emulation and running emulators they might need a lot of ram

                Or running multi virtual machine inside of Android
                Possible using vmos pro android 7 emulator
                With root switch and comparability with older android apps that need a huge amount lot of ram

                Or running virtual machine of windows desktop for compatibility with windows games that definitely need a lot of ram and even more

                There video editing software that people might use
                This can make smartphones hot again

                4k or 8k video recording same makes smartphones very hot also need crazy amount of storage space

                There are many use case for 32gb ram amount
                And reasons too want it for power users

                I think the sweet spot for most people is 16gb ram

                The high speed SSD boot drive for storage is probably the biggest most important improvement needed right now for smartphones

                As the OS will run far smoother forever and loading times will be reduced for loading apps or games just everything will run just so much better

                Ram & storage specs are more important than people realize and the benefits scale higher too amount than you think

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                  • Anonymous
                  • MSK
                  • 22 Nov 2022

                  Anonymous, 22 Nov 2022Gaming....duhAnd nothing else, probably

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                    • Anonymous
                    • MSK
                    • 22 Nov 2022

                    As was already said here, the answer to question 'Do flagship chipsets still matter?' generally is obvious. No need to discuss or have poll about. So it's more about user's preferences in current state..

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                      • Anonymous
                      • nvP
                      • 22 Nov 2022

                      Anonymous, 22 Nov 2022Fan in a phone is bit inconvenient. And could you explain t... moreGaming....duh

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                        • Anonymous
                        • T1w
                        • 22 Nov 2022

                        Less than 5 years ago people were seeing massive jumps in mobile processing power every generation with no end in sight. People were expecting phones to take over laptops and maybe even desktop computers...

                        And here we are, each new generation is less and less impressive, and people barely care for more performance. Just more efficiency, better price, and "good enough" midrange power. Nobody's really chasing high performance in phones these days.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • mpg
                          • 22 Nov 2022

                          Exynos 2200 looks like a mid range chip compared 8 gen 2
                          With 50% faster cpu 40% more efficient
                          60% faster gpu with 80-90% more efficiency
                          A very substantial upgrade twice the performance with half power no wonder Exynos 2300 was abandoned

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                            • Sin
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                            • 22 Nov 2022

                            I think chipset will still matter forever
                            Even when smartphones get too the most extreme monster specs ever of are dreems

                            Software developers will just bring even the greatest of hardware too it's knees in no time at all

                            Moose law means hardware gets more powerful ever year although lately at higher price

                            Sadly software developers are the problems and
                            Artificial obsolescence from unnecessary heavy software growing heavyer ever year leaving old hardware unable too cope anymore

                            The problem is unless regulations are made and put in place
                            With strict standards restrictions and limitations and how damanding software is allowed too be
                            Forcing all apps too be able too run on this tier of hardware

                            The future flagship chip will be needed forever for smoothness in performance

                              YUKI93, 22 Nov 2022Both D8000 and D8100 are Mediatek's upper-midrange SoC... moreD8100 can be considered as a highend too, not flagship though, same as sd 870.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • MSK
                                • 22 Nov 2022

                                Sin, 22 Nov 2022I can't even imagine Snapdragon 8 gen 2+ being good e... moreFan in a phone is bit inconvenient. And could you explain to me, what exactly do you need such high even more boosted performance for? Same for 32GB of RAM. Things advance gradually, HW along with SW, network speed etc. I see no urge for having such specs anytime soon. Most people say they can't utilize all today's flagship chipset power anyway. For the kind of tasks you would, it's better to use PC not phone.

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                                  • Sin
                                  • pYQ
                                  • 22 Nov 2022

                                  I can't even imagine Snapdragon 8 gen 2+ being good enough

                                  The problem is even the flagship Snapdragon & mediatek processors only support up too 24gb ram maximum I think the 2tb SSD storage amount is possible although

                                  So hopefully
                                  Snapdragon 8 gen 3 or 4
                                  Or whatever mediatek makes
                                  Will support support 32gb ram

                                  Hopefully we don't have too wait till the double digit numbers just too get there specs

                                  How many years away are we ??

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                                    • Rosso
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                                    • 22 Nov 2022

                                    Sin, 22 Nov 2022We still have a long way too go till smartphone will be pow... moreBased on spelling this guy is either a kid or a troll

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                                      • Sin
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                                      • 22 Nov 2022

                                      We still have a long way too go till smartphone will be powerful enough in performance

                                      Snapdragon 8 gen 2+ or better
                                      With built-in high speed fans

                                      As far ram & storage
                                      32gb ram & high speed 2tb SSD

                                      Screen 1080p
                                      240hz amoled

                                      9000mah battery
                                      Dual changing ports & dual changers

                                      When smartphones reach this point
                                      The level of performance will ideal

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 22 Nov 2022

                                        Anonymous, 22 Nov 2022comfort of use depends on user hand size, phone size and th... moreBut most of the people who would struggle with a thicker phone do so already just because they want a bigger phone. Thin or or not.