vivo sales in Germany may be suspended, following Nokia lawsuit

12 April 2023
vivo is ready to appeal the court decision and is continuing to negotiate a new IP deal with Nokia.

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AnonD-1091185, 14 Apr 2023I edited that I stopped interest in Nokia company in 2000..... moreYou heard that wrong. Those phones on the linked website are by HMD Global and have nothing to do with the Nokia Corporation that is suing vivo...

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    DarlingYext, 14 Apr 2023If you are actually 40 years old now, you should know why N... moreI edited that I stopped interest in Nokia company in 2000...
    I checked Nokia website after 20 years looks like they do have phones ..https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_gb
    And I heard they want to go back to business

      AnonD-1091185, 14 Apr 2023I don't have to educate myself I know Nokia from 15 ye... moreIf you are actually 40 years old now, you should know why Nokia is in the right here and how patents work. You should also know that Nokia and HMD Global aren't the same companies and that Nokia themselves don't make phones anymore.

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        DarlingYext, 14 Apr 2023I know exactly why this is happening, and I don't like... moreI don't have to educate myself I know Nokia from 15 years old (now am 40)
        And Nokia were manufacturing Tvs and satellite receivers you probably don't know .. And when I was 14 so in year 1995 or 96
        I had very first Nokia mobile phone in hands and I couldn't call becsue I didn't have sim but we were able to call hospital or firemen or police with it so we had little bit fun.. Again Nokia should be angry on apple with iphones ans not on small or not so famous china company in eu which doesn't even make profit from sellin their phones in EU
        We had even monitor CRT Nokia .. But really after year 2000 we stopped interest in Nokia as Sony and Sony erricson mobiles emerged

          AnonD-1091185, 14 Apr 2023Largest telecommunications ?? And main thing is that never ... moreI know exactly why this is happening, and I don't like it. I can't stress this enough, but I am a vivo user, them doing this hurts me greatly, but Nokia is in the right here.

          Yes, they are ONE of the largest telecommunications companies. They DO make routers but they don't make phones. Please google it and educate yourself.

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            DarlingYext, 14 Apr 2023 "4G standard-essential patent" isn't exactl... moreLargest telecommunications ?? And main thing is that never ever seen equipment or routers or switches or catalysts from Nokia .. And main thing is that Huawei telecommunications was spread across the world and everyone were buying it and now they all stripping it down
            losers .. hypocrites
            They been using for years and suddenly they have issue yeah right ..
            U have no idea or you should have idea why this is happening .. Only to cripple chinese companies

              AnonD-1091185, 14 Apr 2023No this patent checking by companies is pure sadness becaus... more "4G standard-essential patent" isn't exactly "banality", it's quite important.

              Considering that Nokia is one of the worlds largest telecommunications company, they aren't exactly sad, and we would be nowhere without them.

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                Cyberchum, 13 Apr 2023If someone uses your property without pay, you'll happ... moreNo this patent checking by companies is pure sadness because company which is doing well and has milions pouring they don't care ...
                But obviously poor Nokia has no choice but look for each companies IF someone using their patents so they can extract money .. Tis is desperation called my friend and company will look even more horrible
                You don't compare this particular matter with property pay ..
                I bet it will be some banality patent ..

                  Minu, 14 Apr 2023I think it's better to say "they made it mainstre... moreYeah, that's fair. Altough even if I said that, they would've just said that Samsung and Apple are the only ones making things mainstream. Which I guess is part true, most things are and have been made mainstream by Apple. Like the notch, which was first introduced by Essential, but other companies only followed it when Apple did it as well.

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                    DarlingYext, 13 Apr 2023All I said was that they were the first to implement it. If... moreI think it's better to say "they made it mainstream" instead of referring that to "innovation". Wdyt?
                    My thoughts are that most people tend to call something that's made mainstream as "innovation", hence why I'm mostly disappointed with technology post-2017.

                      Swaraj, 13 Apr 2023Thats not innovation . Handheld screen refresh rate was c... moreYou don't have to game to notice the difference between 60hz and 90hz or 120hz, it's not just for gaming, the whole UI feels smoother above 60hz. If you can't notice it, that's just fine, but that doesn't mean it's not innovative.

                        Swaraj , 13 Apr 2023Samsung registered most number of patents in 2022 so it is ... morePatents? That's cool, but where are their innovative PHYSICAL products?

                          Carol, 13 Apr 2023So, your are trying to tell me that Oppo taught screen manu... moreAll I said was that they were the first to implement it. If you have actually been following smartphone news for years, you would know that before the OP 7 Pro it just wasn't possible to have an oled display in phones with anything above 60hz.
                          Nevermind the fact that OnePlus was the one to make high refresh rate displays popular as well.

                          "Well I tried"

                          Yeah try harder. Tell me any innovation by Samsung or Apple in the past 3 years.

                            AnonD-1091185, 12 Apr 2023It doesn't matter if they or not the point is clear .... moreIf someone uses your property without pay, you'll happily overlook it lest it's called jealousy, right? Go home today and pray earnestly for sense, because you clearly lack it.

                              Anonymous, 13 Apr 2023Fake news, but i appreciate it. You do know that every p... moreNot at all fake news and it's also not 600 usd, but rather 800. Every country has different prices, in my country it launched at over 1600 usd, so 800 usd is quite cheap for it.

                              I also can't provide a link for a local hungarian gsm store as they don't have a website and you wouldn't have any use for it anyways.

                                bulbulito.bayagbag, 13 Apr 2023i dont know where you live but in my country, the s23 is st... moreI live in Hungary as stated in another comment of mine.

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                                  DarlingYext, 13 Apr 2023Prices of the S23 Ultra have also already dropped to HALF o... moreFake news, but i appreciate it.

                                  You do know that every phone manufacturer would collapse if new unused S23 Ultra were really cost 600USD, right? I would definitely buy a lot of units only to resell it for 300-400USD more.

                                  On next comment, you had better to include the link of new unused S23U with 600USD price.

                                    DarlingYext, 13 Apr 2023Prices of the S23 Ultra have also already dropped to HALF o... morei dont know where you live but in my country, the s23 is still priced as it was launched.

                                      bulbulito.bayagbag, 13 Apr 2023Prices of the huawei P50 pro and mate 50 pro have dropped s... morePrices of the S23 Ultra have also already dropped to HALF of the launch price. Says nothing.

                                      P50 Pro is almost 2 years old, whereas the Mate 50 Pro is almost a year old, why did you expect their prices to NOT drop? Even the iPhone 13 and 12 series is now cheaper than they were when they were new..

                                        DarlingYext, 13 Apr 2023The best camera on the market doesn't exactly sound li... morePrices of the huawei P50 pro and mate 50 pro have dropped significantly. That really says a lot.

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