Android 13 is now running on 12% of devices in the wild

14 April 2023
That's a huge increase from 5% in January.

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  • 16 Apr 2023

Hhh, 16 Apr 2023Well, thank you for the Android Enterprise link, it contain... moreAnd while this is useful if you want to know about security updates, information on Android version updates also ought to be readily available from manufacturers.

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    • 16 Apr 2023

    Anonymous, 15 Apr 2023Actually, Android Enterprise program list security support ... moreWell, thank you for the Android Enterprise link, it contains a lot of useful information when it comes to security updates, even though it is "as provided by manufacturer and not verified by Google". But really, the (very well populated) "data not provided" category when it comes to frequency of updates shouldn't be a thing at all, or mostly empty. Manufacturers should be providing this information.
    And the point is, all this information should be provided and readily available for all phones as a standard - and not only for the select few that are in the AER programme.

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      • 16 Apr 2023

      Actually Samsung Members is made by Samsung employees. It's not just what you claim (re: user forum) it is.

      That's one of the places where Samsung posts beta updates and allows people to sign up for it. Android Verified Boot requires the same custom key as Samsung, therefore, users cannot make their own beta firmware on locked bootloaders without messing around with that stuff.

      Users do post there but for customer support only. I don't have a Samsung phone anymore because I'm on Pixel 7 Pro but when I did (Galaxy S8 Plus), Samsung would regularly post its update cycle for a lot of its devices.

        Anonymous, 15 Apr 2023Samsung publishes its update cycle on Samsung Members app. ... moreShow it.
        Samsung Members is basically just user forum.

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          • 15 Apr 2023

          potato4k, 15 Apr 2023That's just a Samsung fan blog, making assumptions bas... moreSamsung publishes its update cycle on Samsung Members app. You will never see those in its website

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            • 15 Apr 2023

            potato4k, 15 Apr 2023That's just a Samsung fan blog, making assumptions bas... moreI wholeheartedly agree Samsung should have such a website as the one you describe, it makes a lot of sense and it would provide the required information.
            It cannot be left so unclear and muddy.
            Say "Add will receive 3 years of monthly security updates, 1 year of quarterly and 1 year biannual security updates a and 4 new versions of Android and OneUI". It's not really that hard, this should be standard.

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              • 15 Apr 2023

              tekina, 15 Apr 2023Here ya go : https://www.sammobile.com/news/stable-android-... moreThat's not really what the person asked for...
              Samsung should totally have such website with clear information but it doesn't.

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                • 15 Apr 2023

                Oscar, 14 Apr 2023While this directly does not mention OS updates Samsung has... moreWell, the problem with this is that it is a constantly changing "current" list, that doesn't give indication as to until when a phone is going to be in a specific sublist (schedule), or in the list at all, and websites it refers you to for "more information" are similarly vague, with "up to" numbers and "select" models (unnamed)

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                  • 15 Apr 2023

                  An0n , 14 Apr 2023Exactly. Almost no manufacturer actual cares about software... moreThe Galaxy A5x series gets monthly updates and even the A3x series Is almost monthly

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                    • 15 Apr 2023

                    potato4k, 14 Apr 2023To combat this, Google can help by simply requiring OEMs to... moreActually, Android Enterprise program list security support for every certified device:
                    https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/devices/

                    Motorola has dedicated support pages for OS and security updates:
                    https://en-gb.support.motorola.com/app/software-upgrade-guide/g_id/1994
                    https://en-emea.support.motorola.com/app/software-security-update

                      rizki1, 14 Apr 2023https://trust.mi.com/psirt/updates/phone?tab=aerdata no ... moreActually, this is great info. Thanks for the link.
                      Yes, enterprises require this information to have proper planning and budgeting for their device purchases. This is why Microsoft has clear support timeline for their software.

                        tekina, 15 Apr 2023Here ya go : https://www.sammobile.com/news/stable-android-... moreThat's just a Samsung fan blog, making assumptions based on Samsung's less specific press releases. That's not official document like what I posted from Google.

                        Like I said, I'm not arguing about Samsung's actual support effort. I applauded Samsung for having the gold standard in Android support. I'm talking about the actual details of the information. Why can't they just make a table of their handsets and give specific EOL dates and specific timeline for security patches? What's wrong in giving those information straight to consumers?

                        The Android Enterprise list posted by another user from Xiaomi is actually a good official document stating how long the software support will be. That's good, but it would be better if that is easily accessible by consumers from their regular websites.

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                          • 15 Apr 2023

                          when you buy a mobile regardless of brand and price level, components in the mobile need to be upstream, Europe has a goal that electronics must be able to be repaired for ten years

                            potato4k, 14 Apr 2023Show me an actual web page from Samsung.com listing the spe... moreHere ya go : https://www.sammobile.com/news/stable-android-13-update-release-timeline-india-galaxy-phones-tablets/

                            And if you have used Samsung smartphones, then you'll know that the list on this website comes from Samsung's in-app notification which states which phones get updated when. There isn't a major lack of transparency. Probably not as well worded as a lot of other companies, I'll agree to that.

                              Anonymous, 14 Apr 2023Truth hurt right?? 🤭🤭 Enjoy your Android 11 in the year 202... moreSure. Also, I am on Android 13 with April patch. You can go back and play in your walled iOS garden which is slowly getting pulled down by regulations after being proven as an unhealthy monopoly. I could say more but it hurts my intelligence to banter with you.

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                                • 15 Apr 2023

                                Tigolebitties, 14 Apr 2023Fr and it's quite unbelievable for me to say it but IO... moreWait until you heard about phone brand "Samsung" and its almighty good lock/ nice lock app.

                                Almost any new android features are actually old features/module on official samsung good lock app 2-3 years prior.

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                                  • 15 Apr 2023

                                  YUKI93, 15 Apr 2023I can understand why. Not everyone is going to change their... moreMost people use their phones for many years. And most people don't care about updates.

                                    Anonymous, 14 Apr 2023People overrate updates so much...I can understand why. Not everyone is going to change their phone every year. I see people still rocking five-year-old phones to this day.

                                      Anonymous, 14 Apr 2023I mean, Android 11 is the only way to get away from Materia... moreWhat's the problem with both of them? You still can turn off the Material You on Settings tho. And about the jelly scrolling, you can also turn it off with ADB. But the real main question is, is that a big deal? Most people are not even really care with it.

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                                        • 15 Apr 2023

                                        Using it. Pretty good android.