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notafanboy, 09 Jun 2023Imagine thinking this is good.It is.

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    Feem, 09 Jun 2023Apple’s smiling rn. Getting closer to a monopoly every day istgWith Samsung, Nokia, Motorola and others that have no problem making a proper deal about patents, where's the monopoly?

      It would be interesting to know what is innovative in this patent.

        Solih, 09 Jun 2023nokia please dieAnd don't forget to make sure that when it does, it does together with you!

          Anonymous, 09 Jun 2023Nokia does not make phones They do.

            Kurokaze, 10 Jun 2023I think it's more like Nokia has trapped almost every ... moreIf patents are standard they are licenced by Frand, Nokia dont have Authority to overcharge Standard patents.

            Same Oppo pay same Nokia to use Audio tech called Nokia Ozo, that is marketing tech which average consumer can easily see.

            But when it come to Crucial tech which make or break phone they dont want to pay.

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              Breaking news:

              Pixel 8 : samsung GN2 + sony 386

              Pixel 8 Pro : samsung GN2 + sony 787 + samsung GM5

              Only Pro has the thermometer.

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                Kurokaze, 10 Jun 2023I think it's more like Nokia has trapped almost every ... moreNokia owns the tech. Nokia has all right to charge price wanted.
                Does not matter if €1 or €15 per device sold.
                OEMs have options to pay and use or not pay/dont use the tech.



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                  David, 10 Jun 2023Never seen anyone on the street in the UK with a Chinese br... moreSo, you telling us you can differentiate a phone from meters away just by glancing at it while walking? You are telling us you have encyclopedic knowledge of every phone ever from China? Thanks for the laughs, David.

                    Nick Tegrataker, 10 Jun 2023The fact that BBK decided to pull out of some of the Europe... moreI think it's more like Nokia has trapped almost every phone manufacturer by issuing their patents as a standard but then proceeds to cash in on what was agreed as a standard several years later as a patent infringement.

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                      Nick Tegrataker, 10 Jun 2023The fact that BBK decided to pull out of some of the Europe... moreOne of the few sain comments in GSMarena.

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                        Kurokaze, 10 Jun 2023They were also a victim of this same stint from Nokia(This ... moreThe only victim here is NOKIA. Their invested billions in R&D cannot just be taken by some me too brands. If you can't understand that...well then you're also probably very happy buying stollen goods. Pretty much tells the personality.

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                          taurus555, 09 Jun 2023chinese phones are not catching up. it seems theyre going d... moreActually people beeing sheeps made social media like tik tok to be garbage. Give the mass a video to learn from and a video with people being idiots, which one will win? I think you already know the answer.
                          So yeah, social media did not made them people ignorant, it empowerd their ignorance...sadly.

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                            Even htc is selling in Europe, but bbk leaving? 🤣

                              Anonymous, 10 Jun 2023So, even Asus, Sony and HTC do not have issues with not pay... moreSony has limited market probably not where areas Nokia can sue them. HTC has been out of the market for so long. As for Asus, maybe they plans but haven't started suing them yet. Nokia even sued Blackberry before and then Blackberry sued them back for alot more.

                                Mr. Anonymous, 09 Jun 2023It does look like part of cold war, but it's not G7 vs... moreG7 vs the rest is just shorthand.
                                Basically it is : G7+Australia+EU incl Norway+NZ+South Korea and Switzerland.
                                Almost everybody else is either with enlargened and still growing BRIICS or just don't want to impose the US lead sanctions.
                                The world is divided into two camps, this will continue and escalate.
                                US wants to stop China's access to latest semi mfg nodes, best AI tech, data hoarding of people's personal data and so forth. US wants to retain all this for itself, in order to achieve total military superiority in all domains, incl. cyber- and information spaces. This is their clear, publicly stated goal.
                                Thus the world divides again, and new Cold War 2.0 is emerging.
                                Pick your side.

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                                  Anonymous, 10 Jun 2023None denies Nokia's contribution, but that's past... moreHMD is not nokia.

                                  Accept this. Just name licensing.

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                                    Kurokaze, 10 Jun 2023They were also a victim of this same stint from Nokia(This ... moreSo, even Asus, Sony and HTC do not have issues with not paying royalties to patent owners, but brands that make much more money out of phones refuse to pay?



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                                      notafanboy, 10 Jun 2023"Daily Reminder for Chinese Fanboy here." "... moreWait what? What innovation are you talking about, name 1? The only reason people bought xiaomi, is because it was cheap, then got expesnive so people suddently hate it and adore oppo and vivo. And this is the fact with all the chinese brands, if they were as expensive as apple, they would have been long gone and hated. Innovation my $$.

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                                        Anonymous, 10 Jun 2023Indeed most innovations come from western countries. But th... moreThey are expensive because behind innovations are millions of Euros invested, and people are paid to do their job. You want high tech? You pay. If you can't, cheap low end should be enough for you.
                                        Reading your comment i now understand why chinese brands need to be banned, ignorance ain't gonna go away. And they need to be scrapped out of western markets fast, if the world still wants to see innovation.