Future Google Tensor chips might be designed entirely in-house and not depend on Samsung
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- 12 Jul 2023
MRSTEK, 09 Jul 2023No, it seems that you've been tricked by Intel's ... moreAgain you keep repeating things completely irrelevant to the problem. It doesn't matter that Intel 14nm isn't exactly 14nm or 10nm isn't exactly 10nm. Intel 10nm is supposed to be more advanced than Intel 14nm. That's all that matters.
They went BACKWARDS going from 10nm to 14nm because their 10nm process was so terrible. Poor yields, poor efficiency, poor performance.
It can happen to anyone. Just because TSMC is the leader today doesn't mean they will be even a few years from now.
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- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 09 Jul 2023hopefully next year with 8 Gen 4 full-custom designed nuvia... moreFrom the rumours, they will be used in the next MacBook Pro competitor that runs Windows 11S. It will probably come to tablets as well. However, there's no mention of those cores coming to smartphones. Maybe in the future, they might replace the X1-type cores with that instead, but I really am not expecting a real-world improvement for phones: it will mostly be theoretical gains (think QSD 870 vs QSD 888).
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- 11 Jul 2023
Zendroid, 09 Jul 2023We all know Google isn't Asian. And we all know compon... moreit would be secretly based on mediatek🤫🤫
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- 11 Jul 2023
I spent years avoiding the Exynos on Samsung phones just for Google to adopt them for the pIxel. Sheesh.
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- 10 Jul 2023
you have to suffer, 09 Jul 2023they could've used snapdragon 8 gen 1 since pixel 6 series..the sd8g1 costs money unlike their sd6 competitors that they put in supposedly flagship phones
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- 09 Jul 2023
Samoderzhets , 09 Jul 2023Google should use some customized Qualcomm.They may have to use the latest Snapdragon.
Didn't Apple pre-order all 3nm dab chips from TMSC even before TMSC started?
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- 09 Jul 2023
Stoon, 09 Jul 2023why wasting money and effort like that ??? Google could use... morethey could've used snapdragon 8 gen 1 since pixel 6 series..
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- 09 Jul 2023
We all know Google isn't Asian. And we all know components are made and produced in Asia. So Google tensor will never be in house American made.!
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- 09 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 09 Jul 2023So whichever pixel has a G5 TSMC is the one to wait for.Srill not enough. Need good speaker, etc..
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- 09 Jul 2023
Google should use some customized Qualcomm.
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- 09 Jul 2023
Kangal, 09 Jul 2023Recent Samsung Chips: E 990 - 7nm - 11x G77 - 2x M5, 2x A7... morehopefully next year with 8 Gen 4 full-custom designed nuvia oryon cores
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- 09 Jul 2023
Recent Samsung Chips:
E 990 - 7nm - 11x G77 - 2x M5, 2x A76, 4x A55
E1080 - 5nm - 10x G78 - 1x A78, 3x A78, 4x A55
QD888- 5nm - 10x a660 - 1x X1, 3x A78, 4x A55
E2100 - 5nm - 14x G78 - 1x X1, 3x A78, 4x A55
GS101 - 5nm - 20x G78 - 2x X1, 2x A76, 4x A55
GS201 - 5nm - 7x G710 - 2x X1, 2x A78, 4x A55
QC8g1 - 4nm - 8x a730 - 1x X2, 3x A710, 4x A510
E2200 - 4nm - 3x rdna2 - 1x X2, 3x A710, 4x A510
To be honest, I miss having variety and competition in the chipset market. At one point we had Stock ARM Cortex, Qualcomm Kryo, Samsung Mongoose, Nvidia Denver, and obviously Apple Silicon. We basically have Apple's custom cores only for iOS devices. For everything else is Android and Stock Cortex (or lightly altered), yet it's the innovation that has slowed here, and there is almost no impact that Google Pixel devices make to the market.
So I'm not very enthused about this news. The only thing that would make it interesting, is if the newer +3nm-Samsung node is competitive against the recent 4nm-TSMC lithography. Couple that with a new Custom Core, which actually targets the low-end of the power spectrum. Something similar to Apple's Small Cores (Icestorm/Blizzard/Sawtooth) which uses less power than a Cortex-A53 but runs faster than a Cortex-A73. That's what Android needs to catch-up to iPhone in terms of latency and efficiency.
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- 09 Jul 2023
why wasting money and effort like that ??? Google could use Snapdragon as before ... it worked really well in the past !
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- 09 Jul 2023
This shows how far ahead is Apple from the competition.
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- 09 Jul 2023
Sev, 09 Jul 2023This little part of life is what I call happiness! Even then Samsung still have to rely on Android app the core for the os.
Apple and Google will be the true phone makers that will remain.
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- 09 Jul 2023
Hugo, 09 Jul 2023What do you mean?
Nothing has been confirmed here, just ru... moreThat's called enthusiasm. He is all in for something which will happen in future or might not happen. Great.
But meanwhile get an iPhone.
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- 09 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 09 Jul 2023"challenges in coordination between Google's Amer... moreCorrect.
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- 09 Jul 2023
So whichever pixel has a G5 TSMC is the one to wait for.
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- 09 Jul 2023
MRSTEK, 09 Jul 2023I doubt if Google has the ability to design SoCs and baseba... morethe anti rollback thing reminds me of something like eFuse found in xbox 360. i dont like how they locked out downgrades. if updated firmware has some problems.. they'd had to deal with it..