MediaTek Dimensity 6100+ announced for future mid-range smartphones
- joe nodden
- j5{
- 23 Dec 2023
Wait was this even a new chip? It just looks like a rebrand of the Dimensity 700?
Same cores, same frequencies, same GPU, same everything, but they claim it's now 6nm? Idk if I believe it's "6nm." Well I mean it obviously wasn't even 7nm before, these manufacturers always lie about node sizes, but I doubt it's even a different node.
- Aoi Akane
- txE
- 13 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023How could it be? The 7 plus gen 2 is faster than all 8000 s... moreThat's why I said it's "not in par", bcuz it has significant difference between both of the chipset. You might just not catch what I mean, as you might think that I'm saying 7+ Gen 2 is far worse, while in reality I'm saying that it's far better.
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- R4TM4NN
- X%t
- 13 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023I am not specifically a fan of any of the chips. I have had... moreThat too is old news now. Using ROMS is possible on select mediatek devices and you are not necessarily locked into just 1-2 updates (Nord 3 will get 3 OS upgrades). It's all dependant on brands and price.
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- dbjungle
- mAL
- 12 Jul 2023
cmon, 12 Jul 2023cortex A76 ?? cmon , really ?? so much wrong with A76 fo... moreNo joke LOL. IMO A78 should be the minimum for new products, atleast in the mid-range and up.
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- Anonymous
- p7k
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023As usual snapdragon fans always diss other chip set nakersI am not specifically a fan of any of the chips. I have had only the most low end mediatek chip once in my phone i got for 90 euro. As when i buy a phone it needs to be bang for a buck to get the best out of what is offered for my limit of budget. My last phone was SD636 cause it was best you can get for up to 200 euro. Now i have SD 7+ Gen 2 with poco F5 cause it's best you can get for around 400 euro. If the F5 would of come with Dimensity 8200 and had the 3.5mm jack and the price be on that point i would of got the dimesity 8200
Why people like Snapdragon over Mediatek is probably cause on some brands you can install custom rom on phones that have snapdragon while you cant with mediatek chips so your locked in that brand update schedule that can be 1-2 updates only
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- Anonymous
- p7k
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Bionic is better than Snapdragon, by farIn what way Bionic is better then Snapdragon ? Snapdragon you get on basically every brand in the market while Bionic is only for IOS and for there specific devices only that are optimized specifically for these devices only and specifically for IOS.
Basically it's totally it's own thing that cant even step in to any competition to comparing anything
There is basically no motherboard for testing chips where you leave all the specs as is on motherboard and only change change the chip either bionic to snapdragon or mediatek and so on that is built just for testing and the software is just limited for testing to see what chip perform the best. Even all the SD 8+ gen 1 show different benchmark scores on different devices under different brands.
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- Kirisame
- YRh
- 12 Jul 2023
hmm, 12 Jul 2023Not so much only this 8+ gen 1 to a bit down graded as 7 ge... moreSnapdragon 695 has 6x 1.8GHz Kryo 660 Silver some website has written wrong about it. 4 gen 1 has 700MHz gpu slightly weaker than 695 has 840MHz
- Kangal
- 7t1
- 12 Jul 2023
The whole market is a convoluted mess.
Hypothetically, if I was the OEM of let's say Samsung, here's how I would've gone about it. Let's start off with 2017 Standards:
Samsung Exynos 00, ~0W, 12nm, Mali-G52 x1, 0+0+1, Cortex A55
Samsung Exynos 10, ~1W, 12nm, Mali-G52 x2, 0+0+2, Cortex A55
Samsung Exynos 20, ~2W, 12nm, Mali-G52 x4, 0+0+8, Cortex A55
Samsung Exynos 30, ~3W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x6, 0+1+7, Cortex A55+A75
Samsung Exynos 40, ~4W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x9, 0+2+6, Cortex A55+A75
Samsung Exynos 50, ~5W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x12, 0+3+5, Cortex A55+A75
Samsung Exynos 60, ~6W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x15, 0+4+4, Cortex A55+A75
Samsung Exynos 70, ~7W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x18, 1+5+2, Cortex A55+A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 10, ~10W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x21, 2+6+0, Cortex A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 20, ~13W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x24, 3+5+0, Cortex A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 30, ~16W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x27, 4+4+0, Cortex A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 40, ~19W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x30, 5+3+0, Cortex A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 50, ~22W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x30, 6+2+0, Cortex A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 60, ~25W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x32, 7+1+0, Cortex A75+M3
Samsung Noxsey 70, ~35W, 12nm, Mali-G72 x32, 8+0+0, Samsung M3
Then next year (and years) I would upgrade the lineup, using better lithography (10nm, 8nm, 6nm, 4nm), newer core technology (Cortex A76, A77, A78), and optimising the graphics (G57/G77, G68/G78, G510/G710) co-processors. And the nomenclature would also be updated along side the changes. So you would be able to compare chips like so:
Watts - Year 2017 - 2018 - 2019, etc etc SoC Generation and Nomenclature
~~1W: Exynos 20, E21, E22, E23, E24... ... (for 2in / watches, wearables)
~~4W: Exynos 40, E41, E42, E43, E44... ... (for 5in / phones, small gadgets)
~~5W: Exynos 70, E71, E72, E73, E74... ... (for 7in / phablets, small tablets)
~~7W: Noxsey 10, N11, N12, N13, N14... ... (for 9in / large tablets)
~10W: Noxsey 20, N21, N22, N23, N24... ... (for 11in / ultrabooks)
~15W: Noxsey 40, N41, N42, N43, N44... ... (for 14in / laptops)
~25W: Noxsey 60, N61, N62, N63, N64... ... (for 17in / thick laptops)
~45W: Noxsey 70, N71, N72, N73, N74... ... (for 29in / All-in-One office pc)
~95W: Noxsey 90, N91, N92, N93, N94... ... (for Mini PC, Desktops with strong cooling)
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- Hemedans
- f0J
- 12 Jul 2023
Hemedans, 12 Jul 2023Good information but i disagree on sd 7+ gen 2, gpu inside ... moreGpu? You have proof for that?
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- Anonymous
- 0p}
- 12 Jul 2023
Hemedans, 12 Jul 2023Good information but i disagree on sd 7+ gen 2, gpu inside ... more7 Gen 2 is worse. It has lower efficiency than Tensor G2 with bigger battery.
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- Hemedans
- f0J
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Kryo 6xx Gold and Cortex A78 are the same cores ! The only... moreGood information but i disagree on sd 7+ gen 2, gpu inside is new one and share lot of similarities with 8 gen 2 gpu than older 8 gen 1 and 888 gpu which were inefficient and clocked high.
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- Anonymous
- 6rB
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Bionic is better than Snapdragon, by farBionic isn't better than both 8 Gen 2 and Dimensity 9200...
So called CPU advantage is based on Geekbench...Geekbench tests 8 Gen 2 and 9200 with Arm V8 instructions when both are Arm V9.
No problem with Bionic as it lacks V9 support.
Bionic lacks lpddr5x support...memory bandwidth is more than 30% better on 8 Gen 2/D9200
Apple's GPU isn't as powerfull as both Adreno and Immortalis G715 on OpenGL
Apple's GPU lacks Ray-tracing support
Apple's VPU lacks AV1 support
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- Anonymous
- 6rB
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Late v8 cores are better than early v9 cores. Apple still u... moreThat's wrong...
This idea comes from geekbench...
Geekbench is Pro-Apple and all tests with Arm V8 instructions...even on Arm V9 CPU.
Geekbench should be banned from every reviews...
Or at least, reviewers should explain how this bench trolls V9 soc...
The same with PCMark, should be banned as some devices use big cores on it and some others don't.
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- Anonymous
- 6rB
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023its not just downclocked dude it has half memory bandwidth ... moreStill not able to decode AV1 when 1100 or 1200 can
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- Anonymous
- r7y
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Bionic is better than Snapdragon, by farWell that's not true
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- Anonymous
- QKD
- 12 Jul 2023
Aoi Akane, 12 Jul 2023This chipset is not even in par with 7+ Gen 2, what do you ... moreHow could it be? The 7 plus gen 2 is faster than all 8000 series SoCs how could a 6000bseries be as good as it? Nonsensical
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- Anonymous
- XTA
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Apple uses Arm V8 even on M2 Ultra...
7+ Gen 2 is a 8+ G... moreits not just downclocked dude it has half memory bandwidth its has different gpu..so basically its new cpu.do more study....
Qualcomm make sd7+ gen 2 based on current flagship they have. not improving a midrange cpu like mediatek
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- Anonymous
- XTA
- 12 Jul 2023
Aoi Akane, 12 Jul 2023This chipset is not even in par with 7+ Gen 2, what do you ... moreyeah they should make chip like sd 7+ gen 2 based sd 8+ gen 1
they should make cpu based D9000+ and half of the gpu power and half memory bandwidth and of course UFS 3.1 is a must for 2024.
if they stuck like same phone from 4 years ago what's the point buying new phone?....
100mp 200mp is just a gimmick
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- Anonymous
- XTA
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Late v8 cores are better than early v9 cores. Apple still u... moreearly v9 core? dude did you know when arm v9 introduced?
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- Anonymous
- gDf
- 12 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2023Instead of repeating the BS spewed by the company about thi... moreWhich old chip is it then?