TSMC pushes back the launch of its Arizona plant to 2025

21 July 2023
The company was initially hoping to start mass producing 4nm chips out of that plant next year, but a labor shortage caused the delay.

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  • 25 Sep 2023

Anonymous, 21 Jul 2023TSMC = Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, yeah it ... moreThe official name of Taiwan is Republic of China

    lewein, 25 Jul 2023Immigrants are not taking the jobs of those employees, stop... moreI don't buy this

    I don't see most Americans willing to do dirty jobs

    Every summer there are work and travel programs from university/colleges of students from other countries going to America and working

    I don't think it's Bs as you call it seems to me that there is some truth to this entitlement yes people are also not getting paid enough but I doubt thats the only factor

      IpsDisplay, 21 Jul 2023I'm usually conflicted when I hear people make the cla... moreImmigrants are not taking the jobs of those employees, stop with this bull*
      Companies are outsourcing because they want higher profits, they don't give 2 cents on the people they fire in their home countries.

        TheLastOracle, 21 Jul 2023Its a Joke. The US already has monopoly on the majority ... moreEurope is already in a recession and by 2024 will be in a depression.

          Anonymous, 21 Jul 2023The "conflict" has been going on for more than ha... moreNo, the US is planning a war with China and even said that the US will blow up the factory if China invades Taiwan.

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            • 22 Jul 2023

            Anonymous, 22 Jul 20237nm generates less heat, less powerhungry & overall mor... moreIn the normal situation
            You were right

            But the chinese think that at anytime usa will forbid them to buy American product, thus, they're changing all component to be local.

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              • 22 Jul 2023

              blue, 22 Jul 2023You still don't get it. They don't have access to... moreThe Chinese were playing 4D chess
              And you're linear thinking don't understand that
              3nm, 4nm or 7nm only good for smartphone
              The Chinese now were making sure they will be able to produce 80% of the chip from washing machine to tv to microwave to smart car to memory to ssd.... Anything but smartphone & computer cpu/gpu.

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                • 22 Jul 2023

                Anonymous, 22 Jul 2023Like what was said 7nm is a good starting point, decent &am... moreYou still don't get it. They don't have access to a better technology and they were not able to manufacture their own litography machines even for 12 nm. They only buy older machines, but can't copy them.

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                  • 22 Jul 2023

                  Anonymous, 21 Jul 2023ASML not selling EUV machines to China(PRC) because of US s... moreReally? Then why all they managed so far was purchasing old 12nm and 7nm machines? Yes, they were not able to develop their own, and also were not allowed to buy new ones.
                  So... developing 3 nm is a no-go for them.

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                    • 22 Jul 2023

                    [deleted post]I think TSMC will wait until Biden admin finished
                    Then silently back out

                    As of now
                    The worker issue will not get better
                    As the recession and inflation hit hard

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                      • 22 Jul 2023

                      Anonymous, 22 Jul 20237nm generates less heat, less powerhungry & overall mor... moreIf you're talking about TV
                      It's probably 2watt vs 3watt

                      If you're talking about EV
                      You're probably talking about maximum 10 watt difference???
                      In which doesn't really matter

                      Side note:
                      I still own an i3 2nd generation notebook
                      Which is 32 nm.
                      Still good.

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                        • 22 Jul 2023

                        Anonymous, 22 Jul 2023EV, TV and other don't need 7nm. 7nm will have benefi... more7nm generates less heat, less powerhungry & overall more efficient than 12nm & if any company can get them for cheap compared to tsmc/samsung 12nm from whatever company in China will provide, so why not take advantage of it???

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                          • 22 Jul 2023

                          Anonymous, 22 Jul 2023Like what was said 7nm is a good starting point, decent &am... moreEV, TV and other don't need 7nm.
                          7nm will have benefit for EV, TV, etc.
                          But 14nm or 28nm will do just fine too.

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                            • 22 Jul 2023

                            blue, 21 Jul 2023US and Taiwanese manufacturers have nothing to worry about ... moreLike what was said 7nm is a good starting point, decent & cheaper with high yield compared to 5nm beyond that is still pretty costly to make & still has high fail rate. If China can mass produce 7nm & sells them miles cheaper than TSMC/Samsungs 7nm & below, then that means huge companies/emerging ones can take advantage from it not specifically only for phones but other electronics devices aswell like EVs, Computers, TVs, etc.

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                              • 22 Jul 2023

                              blue, 21 Jul 2023Sadly for you, China is not the only one with the resources.Sadly for you it is... 90%+

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                                • 22 Jul 2023

                                TheLastOracle, 21 Jul 2023Its a Joke. The US already has monopoly on the majority ... moreCurrently,
                                USA mostly control chip manufacturing because most of them use the US software to design the chip.
                                The chip manufacturing patent mostly not American.

                                So, why America can say no to China if USA not own the majority of patent? Because it has military power

                                  IpsDisplay, 21 Jul 2023I think your too hasty in labelling this good... America... moreIts a Joke.

                                  The US already has monopoly on the majority of the world's tech. If it becomws a leader in chip manufacturing, Europe will go into the worst depression in centuries. So will the rest of the world.

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                                    • 21 Jul 2023

                                    blue, 21 Jul 2023Can't... They have been trying for two decades and all... moreASML not selling EUV machines to China(PRC) because of US sanctions will just result in PRC trying very hard to make them instead of buying them, which they did so far. Of course It will take some time, but It's certainly not impossible even If you claim otherwise.





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                                      • 21 Jul 2023

                                      Anonymous, 21 Jul 2023Real reason is reduced sales for TSMC in last 3 quarters. T... morewell it will.be delayed just like HSR

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                                        • 21 Jul 2023

                                        Anonymous, 21 Jul 2023Good luck for finding Germanium & GaliumSadly for you, China is not the only one with the resources.

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