Apple ready to pull iMessage and FaceTime from the UK if new privacy law gets passed
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- SShock
- puk
- 21 Jul 2023
The fact that governments want a backdoor in secure connections is bizarre. It's like they don't understand that if you put something compromising in place intentionally, it's not secure for ANYONE anymore.
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- Dometalican
- rb2
- 21 Jul 2023
Yong Farlight84, 21 Jul 2023Donations! Hmm don't make me laugh 😊 They'll say... moreAlright. Find, in the source code, where the messages are decrypted.
- Yong Farlight84
- frV
- 21 Jul 2023
Dometalican, 21 Jul 2023They get donations dude. Look them up. Their stuff is 100% ... moreDonations! Hmm don't make me laugh 😊
They'll say anything to save face 😅
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- TheLastOracle
- vG1
- 21 Jul 2023
Never forget that all protesters globally, whose privacy and security was compromised, were victims due to being Apple users. From HK to all over the world. Apart from the millions of security breathes on iCloud.
Apple is no better than android as a platform. If anything, it's much worse.
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- Dometalican
- rb2
- 21 Jul 2023
Anton., 21 Jul 2023Like in Signal and they all don't do the same!!! What... moreThey get donations dude. Look them up. Their stuff is 100% encrypted with no access to any messages (especially now that they got rid of SMS).
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- Anton.
- 8xr
- 21 Jul 2023
Dometalican, 21 Jul 2023Guess you've never heard of Signal....Whatsapp has acc... moreLike in Signal and they all don't do the same!!! What do you think Signal programmers don't eat?
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- AngryLithuanian
- mE0
- 21 Jul 2023
Good. Barely anyone is using those anyway. #whatsapp #messenger #wechat #literallyanythingelse
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- Chintu
- U@G
- 21 Jul 2023
Today Apple, tomorrow Meta, day after tomorrow Google and so on...
Technological doomsday is coming
Let's go to stone age 😜
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- Anonymous
- U@G
- 21 Jul 2023
djsat2, 21 Jul 2023won't miss imessage or face time so feel free to go. ... moreRightly said
Best comment of these discussions
Big Corporates like this don't give a damn,
Because UK or Europe is not the entire world
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- JG01
- j$q
- 21 Jul 2023
Some of these western governments are becoming totalitarian regiemes (more like Russia/China) that want to "Rule" the people instead of governing as they should. In light of what has happen over the past few years it seems that anything the government does these days may have some sort of neferous intentions that will transpire 1-2 years down the road. There needs to be a peoples champion(s) which could be in form of large global companies or billionnaires to push back. However, companies chasing profits were the ones that first created backdoors into their products to collect data without us knowing and sell it for a profit. Now the governments have learned of these backdoors and want take advantage of it. The question is who have control over our lives...the governments or the corporations ? or will it be both? Personally I want neither! Where does that leave us?
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- Really
- Fv1
- 21 Jul 2023
Anonymous, 21 Jul 2023The UK is doing all it can to progressively become a dystop... moreExcept the EU are doing the same stuff but even worse.
Its a sad time.
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- I Just Read
- 8mp
- 21 Jul 2023
Darth Caesium, 21 Jul 2023The worst part is that the UK already has ways of forcing c... moreThe BBC article in part states
"Apple says:
It would not make changes to security features specifically for one country that would weaken a product for all users.
Some changes would require issuing a software update so could not be made secretly
The proposals "constitute a serious and direct threat to data security and information privacy" that would affect people outside the UK"
I do hope Apple holds out and others follow
I have to declare a bias, I have Invested one red cent into any Apple product, I don't expect that to ever change
Agree, agree, agree adding that we have history of covert surveillance there have been many "authorised target" who are not criminals but different political views even membership of a trade union, victims of crime etc.
The worst so far unless a unimaginable scenario a arises is undercover police officer, who fathered children with women, yes some already married themselves
It doesn't matter no-one has been dismissed, arrested, so no prosecution. No accountability.
Why is this an abuse of power, no warrant.
If you believe that surveillance is needed, you apply to a judge, on that basis yes or no.
Suppose the warrant is flawed, illegal, evidence gathered is fruit of the poisonous tree it can't be used.
Now Data Protection Law means collected data can be shared with Agencies agreed with at the outset
If the collection agency authorised is allowed to share it with another agency, you now get a piggy back work around, no fruit of the poisonous tree, even a warrant obtained, based on a message that you may not have sent and you happen to share the same name.
That agency the UK shares this data with need not be from the UK, Extraordinary Rendition anyone
Target the people who you want to surveil, The UK has details of the target.
The argument that you don't need to worry if you've don nothing wrong is a concept so full of holes is a point anyone can disassemble.
If the UK wants a back door what messaging system will they themselve use?
If the guards are not held to account then then should not seek more shackles to guard.
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- Anonymous
- BiP
- 21 Jul 2023
The UK is doing all it can to progressively become a dystopian survelliance state. Now you see the real reason behind Brexit.
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- Dometalican
- Ib5
- 21 Jul 2023
Yong Farlight84, 21 Jul 2023I hate to say it but WhatsApp has has become the most safes... moreGuess you've never heard of Signal....Whatsapp has access to your metadata; shoot, wouldn't be surprised if they decrypt the message and then encrypt them again in transit.
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- Darth Caesium
- 0m2
- 21 Jul 2023
Dometalican, 21 Jul 2023Yeah, I don't like this. You want to catch criminals? ... moreThey already can. In the UK, if they take your phone because they suspect something, they will ask for you to unlock it. If you don't, then you will go to jail. The law even says that if somebody claims to have forgotten their password, even if it's true, they will go to jail because it is "obstructing justice".
- Yong Farlight84
- frV
- 21 Jul 2023
I hate to say it but WhatsApp has has become the most safest end-to-end encryption messaging app
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- Anonymous
- B}K
- 21 Jul 2023
The one time I'm actually siding with Apple...what a world we live in...
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- Cpt.Power
- Lfw
- 21 Jul 2023
rRadD, 21 Jul 2023UK Government should manufacture their own mobile devices. ... moreWell those crocodiles are called Grey Eminences they are 12 people which follow rules of their master. Their prime head.
We all are humans we i mean out possibilities are limited but said people exist from avery long time ago.
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- Anonymous
- LH6
- 21 Jul 2023
Facebook has been giving info when it comes to child abuse, trafficing, etc
Blackberry has been doing that when they are served with a warrant.
Google ... well you just need to know someone who works at google to give you their email password.
And so on.