FT: Apple argues iMessage is not gatekeeper in the EU

05 September 2023
Apple has reportedly argued that iMessage does not have 45 million active users in the EU.

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Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023Don’t intrusively meddle in their business affairs. Just ta... moreI disagree. We should be explicitly meddling in business affairs otherwise we'll wind up in a situation where we have a climate crisis and no one is doing anything about it except business as usual.

    Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023As someone living in the EU I can tell you that the EU is a... moreXD, get help

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      • Anonymous
      • i2d
      • 08 Sep 2023

      Timmy one word RCS save all lol in Uk 🇬🇧 . .. TikTok

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        • Anonymous
        • i2d
        • 08 Sep 2023

        Bust that blue bubble open lol. Hey google messages be cool in iPhone

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          • Anonymous
          • i2d
          • 08 Sep 2023

          I bet it does have that many easily

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            • txF
            • 07 Sep 2023

            Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023Nahh Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Bytedance and Samsung should... moreI don't understand what do you mean, do you even know what "gatekeeping" means? Except Google Play Store, you can actually use all of the Google apps you mentioned on non-Google devices. While things like iMessage only works on Apple device.

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              • 07 Sep 2023

              Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023So you're saying Apple is gatekeeping even though nobo... moreI guess EU is just don't want something similar on US happened on EU. Apple is indeed gatekeeping it's user on US, but it's harder to do this on EU because almost no one in EU uses iMessage.
              Also, Xiaomi is the 3rd biggest smartphone vendor in 2023. US is the one that ban Huawei and ZTE from their country, not EU. TikTok is mostly banned from goverment-related devices, and this is also happened in US.

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                • 07 Sep 2023

                Apple has made sure that my iPhone enables iMessage by itself every few days after I've explicitly disabled it, without any notification. I'm sure my phone is not the only one behaving like this.

                Are Apple only counting active, consenting, and knowing users, maybe?

                By the time people notice the message bubble is blue in color, Apple have already sucked up not only their recent messages, but the whole message history.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • Mfs
                  • 06 Sep 2023

                  Yes you heard them loud and clear Apple, Amazon, Bytedance, Meta and Samsung! You guys are spoiling the EU market and destroying their citizens!

                  They only want Google with chinese phones cause thats true equality and fair market! EU only wants to use Honor and Xiaomi phones while telling China they are scum on X/Twitter only lets gooooo!

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                    • 06 Sep 2023

                    Anonymous, 05 Sep 2023They can do as they will, but it can only backfire to them ... moreNahh Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Bytedance and Samsung should just pull out of EU. I think they'll manage fine with the Americas, China, India, Middle east and Asia Pacific.

                    But Google best boi; Google Pixel, google chrome, gmail, google calendar, google assistant, google maps, google translate, google lens, google play, google movies, google wallet, google drive, google doc, google sheet, google slide, google chat, google meet, 95% search engine dominance is not gatekeeping les goooo!

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                      • 06 Sep 2023

                      Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023You’re seriously comparing a major national security issue ... moreI Believe pretty much "no one care about your blue bubble" it's interoperability : I'm on Apple Ecosystem, Use both Android and Apple, the fact they do not propose RCS force communicating with SMS in europe which is way over 30 years old protocol.(looked up)

                      So when you send video or picture from an Iphone to another operating system, it just show how idio* this thing is. (image and video are limited in size and compression)

                      Also I would prefer to have the abilities to change the Imessage look and feel, but apparently Apple think THEY only know what is best for their users!
                      Not just people on Android having a bad experience due to their policy the one on Apple too!

                      Ruining innovation, I'm glad that we finally have USB-C on Iphone and RCS soon ;
                      At the same time, Apple will be forced to have novelties to hold their fanbase!
                      win-win

                      Can't wait for others markets appstore on apple, RCS, and ability to mod the Iphone !





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                        • 06 Sep 2023

                        cyber, 05 Sep 2023finally eu is using the stick,now they should regulate and ... moreYup agree, EU should impose higher importing fee on Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Bytedance and Samsung.

                        Cause that's exactly what EU citizen want; more expensive! Yes!

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                          • 06 Sep 2023

                          404, 06 Sep 2023If it's that great just because "it's alread... moreSo you're saying Apple is gatekeeping even though nobody in EU uses imessage.

                          Just like how EU hates China while typing on their Honor and Xiaomi while using TikTok

                          I really hope every tech company pulls out of EU. They should go back to using Nokias (oh wait thats a Chinese company too)

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                            • 06 Sep 2023

                            ColinsCity, 06 Sep 2023Ok, this is a little annoying because iMessage is inbuilt i... moreIf it's that great just because "it's already built-in to iOS" then majority of iPhone users in Europe already use it. In fact, they don't. It's like saying Safari is the best browser because it's already built-in on iOS, iPadOS, and MacOS.

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                              • 06 Sep 2023

                              Voidz, 05 Sep 2023I know, that is what the EU plans to do with the gatekeepin... moreTbh with iMessage, you're actually getting "gatekeeped" by Apple so you only can use Apple products because iMessage is only available on it, that's literally what happened in US and why iPhone dominates US market, and EU just don't want something similar happened, even though, you know, iMessage is not even that popular in Europe.

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                                • 06 Sep 2023

                                ikek, 05 Sep 2023If anything, I can see Apple leaving the EU altogether. ... moreApple better watch out. If US doesn't stop with their useless sanctions, Huawei might retake China.

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                                  • 06 Sep 2023

                                  its especially if they need to talk with people in USA
                                  that is billions

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                                    • 06 Sep 2023

                                    Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023It has nothing with Android users being petty, more the fac... moreThat’s a social problem. What does it have to do with Apple and their internal business practices? What, do you want the US government to get involved in school bullying and regulate Apple because of some insecure little teenage brats? The US is not the EU where literally everything is regulated, lol.

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                                      • 06 Sep 2023

                                      erodhika94, 06 Sep 2023Isn't it the same to Huawei ban? Or anyone didn't... moreYou’re seriously comparing a major national security issue with European crybabies desperately desiring for blue iMessage bubbles?!

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                                        • 06 Sep 2023

                                        Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023The highly regulated, heavily taxed, expensive AF EU regula... moreIt has nothing with Android users being petty, more the fact with Apple users and their superiority, dont kids in schools in America get bullied if they have an Android device and not an Iphone??