Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro overheating due to compromised thermal design

27 September 2023
Apple went too far with the weight reduction of the cooling system.

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  • 28 Sep 2023

Sarcasm, 27 Sep 2023It isn't Apple's or A17's or TSMC's new... moreLol.

    Anonymous, 27 Sep 2023Popcorn TimeDo I need to put butter on the iPhone to make the kernels pop?

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      • 28 Sep 2023

      you have to suffer, 27 Sep 2023They are trying to compete against exynos🤭🤭They have copied the wrong homework from Samsung.

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        • 27 Sep 2023

        wow a Defective design plan from Apple.
        Many people complaining same problem on twitterX too.
        I still cant believe Apple is messing up.

        & they want to add PS5 resident evil to the phone, really??? the iPhone will be burning fkn lmao.
        The battery life will be destroyed quickly with the super heat. :vvv

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          • 27 Sep 2023

          Anonymous, 27 Sep 2023should be lower heat conductivity. Titanium has low therm... moreThe internal frame is made of aluminium, the external titanium casing is fused on top - but it sounds like conductivity is compromised as heat doesn't dissipate well enough.

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            • 27 Sep 2023

            Anonymous, 27 Sep 2023Forget about Ming-Chi Kuo. It's TSMC A17 pro SOC fault... moreTensor G3 hasn't even been tested yet. It's a glorified Exynos so expect similar issues.

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              • 27 Sep 2023

              Anonymous, 27 Sep 2023actually any soc made by scamsung will have overheating pro... moreScamsung, that's code word for Apple, isn't it? I mean, they've copied everything down to the Bixby Button by now.

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                • 27 Sep 2023

                Reading some of these comments makes me think no-one here has used a gaming laptop.

                  I had always held this view ,of how the internals of the iPhones had no noticeable form of cooling material,but as you know I attribute their absence to Apple superior SoC tuning techniques ,but still I had my doubts how cramped smartphones spaces are ,and you decide not to introduce any notable cooling material,I'm happy I wasn't the only one thinking same...

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                    • 27 Sep 2023

                    If iphone 15 pro had 8g2 instead, nothing of this would happen.
                    This chip is trash like tensynos 1, crappynos 2100 ....
                    Worse than SD810.

                      DaFink, 27 Sep 2023Isn’t that the monstrosity that comes with a miniature outb... moreExactly!

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                        • 27 Sep 2023

                        Ottonis, 27 Sep 2023Yes indeed, higher thermal conductivity usually means that... moreYeah, Apple will patent it

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                          • 27 Sep 2023

                          It isn't Apple's or A17's or TSMC's new 3nm process at fault.

                          It's the new design which Apple made, but Apple is not at fault.

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                            • 27 Sep 2023

                            Hunt for the culprit is on. Hopefully it is in the variation of the A17 manuf process. Sampling could solve the issue at a higher chip price. Thank you, I do not want one.

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                              • 27 Sep 2023

                              you have to suffer, 27 Sep 2023They are trying to compete against exynos🤭🤭Oh no

                              We dont need exynos competition

                              One and only true exyons iron box

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                                • 27 Sep 2023

                                alski10, 27 Sep 2023« which in tandem with the higher heat conductivity of tita... moreshould be lower heat conductivity.
                                Titanium has low thermal conductivity of 11.4 W/m K which is an important consideration during machining, titanium tends to heat up the tool instead of distributing heat through the metal which shortens tool life and can risk damaging the performance of the metal.

                                The better metal would have been aluminium. It's light, cheap, and very good at heat dissipation.

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                                  • 27 Sep 2023

                                  alski10, 27 Sep 2023« which in tandem with the higher heat conductivity of tita... moreIt is a good thing, for the A17 Pro. The chip will be able to use more power for longer because the heat is being taken away, to the titanium body.
                                  If apple were to assume a similar ratio of internal temperature to surface temp then the body would be hotter for the same chip temp.
                                  They could resolve this issue by throttling the chips at a lower temperature, this would keep the external temps down and wouldn't be at the cost of performance, compared to last years A16, as for the same temp the chip could use more power due to greater heat dissipation.

                                  Alternatively, Apple has just taken out chunks of metal to make it lighter which has reduced the amount of heat sinking that could happen.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 27 Sep 2023

                                    Forget about Ming-Chi Kuo. It's TSMC A17 pro SOC faulty manufacturing. That's the problem. Their 3 nm yield is poor quality maybe around 50% only. This year Google Tensor G3 and Samsung foundry are the winners. 🏆

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                                      • 27 Sep 2023

                                      They cheaped out on the heat sink. Never cheap out on the heat sink

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                                        • 27 Sep 2023

                                        The theory by Kuo doesn't quite explain why only a part of the phones are affected. We are not experiencing overheating on our review units for what it's worth and forums discussing the issue have plenty of responses by people unable to replicate the problem. Could it be that different phones have different cooling pad materials? We'll make sure to follow this and keep you updated.

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