Sony unveils smaller PlayStation 5 models in time for the holiday season

10 October 2023
Features a removable Blu-ray drive and increased storage.

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almost no differences between regular ps5 and ps5 slim in terms of dimension.

    Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023Xes.... PS5 is currently sold 41.7 million units and XBox ... moreMicrosoft's tactic was this:
    Xbox Series S = 1080p
    Xbox Series X = 2160p
    ....in that sense the XSS is actually FASTER than the XSX. So it might be able to get 50-60fps, whilst the XSX gets limited to 40-50fps at best. But then again this was with the expectation with the technology and standards back in 2019-2021. But now we've got much more heavy gaming engine and standards, part of that is Sony's fault.

    Hindsight being 20/20, it would've been much better if MS sent developer kits to their partners and companies back in 2019 with the known XSS specifications, and kept it at that. Sony may have responded with a weaker PS5, to increase their profit margin. Then at the last minute MS changes direction, and responds by saying their developer box is the specifications for their portable/handheld console. Basically like the ASUS ROG Ally, but released in Late 2020, and making it fully backwards compatible with all Xbox One games (digital download only) to release it superbly. It could also have selective backwards compatibility with older Xbox and 360 titles as well (again digital only). Cutting Nintendo at the knees. And then in 2021 MS finally releases their next-generation console, something similar or slightly more powerful than the Xbox Series X.

    You might think that's a bad tactic, but with the pandemic it would mean no-one gets a first-movers advantage. But Microsoft benefits greatly this generation by having the performance edge over both competitors. Forcing Sony to release a PS5 Pro, and forcing Nintendo to release a "Super Switch" years ahead of schedule. All the while Microsoft keeps fleshing out their Cloud Streaming Platform, to make their future more dominant. That doesn't mean everything, they still have to produce great games and perhaps make them exclusive.

    ....this is all fanfic of course, I just want every player to participate, innovative, and compete in the market.

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      Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023The point is hardware of the PS5 is at least 4 years old if... moreBecause it is 2021 machine.. as u said that Sony develop 2 years. So what do u expect from 2021 machine?

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        imparanoic, 11 Oct 2023Size of the units and each mid refresh and how smaller they... moreThe difference has stayed consistent for everything but the Ps2 and that's becuase the slim came out so much later they jumped 2 lithography nodes instead of just one.
        90 to 65nm is the same proportional difference as going from 45nm to 28nm or as 28nm or 16nm. The new PS5 just isnt using a newer node. 6nm is just a slightly refined 7nm. Sony cheaper out, if they were being consist they would have go for 5 or 4nm which is the standard 2/3rds size from the previous generation lithography node.

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          imparanoic, 11 Oct 2023From 6nm to 4nm I don't think it will significantly sm... more4nm is ~2/3rds the size of 7nm. That's the normal gap between refreshes. It's just as big a leap as 90 to 65nm or 45nm to 28nm. Its a logarithmic scale not linear. So going from 90nm to 65 isn't anymore significant than 7nm to 4nm.

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            Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023Xes.... PS5 is currently sold 41.7 million units and XBox ... moreThat statement is over exaggerated Sony has sold 36 million units not 41.5. Check the link https://www.vgchartz.com/article/457024/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-sales-comparison-march-2023/

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              Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023wait like another 2years, and closer to life cycle yeah i... moreThere's almost always something better on the horizon tech wise. Waiting and patience is good generally speaking. However I have wanted a ps5 that plays movies, weighs less, and has a slimmer body for 3 years. So, I am getting the new November 2023 ps5 model next month or in December.

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                Hopefully audio cds will play on the add on disc player. Not getting my hopes up tho. If they said, for 20 more you can play audio cds, I would pay it (sad but true).

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                  NiJon, 11 Oct 2023What do you need a 'pro' model for? The current g... moreHigher framerates, 120 FPS modes for more games would be a massive win.

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                    ShoneRL, 11 Oct 2023PS5 proving itself to be a really unappealing, expensive co... moreXes....
                    PS5 is currently sold 41.7 million units and XBox (Both version) 21 million units - Quest2 VR headset is sold 20 millions.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Best-selling_game_consoles

                    Also Microsoft made their own difficulty to have a powerful X and a not powerful S that all games should support with the same features. Yet, it has been proven difficulty to do that, so Baldur's Gate 3 don't have split screen on the S.
                    https://kotaku.com/baldurs-gate-3-xbox-series-x-s-split-screen-co-op-rpg-1850770513


                    Also specification wise, well the XBox (the faster one) have 2 TFLOPS (12) more and the CPU is up to 3.8 GHz (the faster one) instead of 3.5 GHz. Yet, the slower have only 4 TFLOPS (1/3) and their cores goes up to 3.6 GHz (max).
                    Additional the have fast and slow RAM (10 GB fast / 6 GB slow or 8 GB not so fast / 2 GB not fast at all) where the PS5 has 16 GB fast memory (little slower than the XBox fast fast memory as 448 GB/s vs 560, but faster than all other XBox's memory speed 336 GB/s, 224 GB/s and 56 GB/s).
                    Then their internal storage is nearly the same (PCIe 4.0 825 GB with PS5 and 1 TB/512 GB with XBox), but the additonal storage is very different, where you can on the PS5 simple add a up to 8TB 2280 SSD, with the XBox you need a specific XBox storage card (only up to 2 TB) and it simple cost more than two times (275 for XBox special, 113 for 2280 both Seagate, both 2 TB size).

                    So, I don't really see why the XBox should be better overall than the PS5. The X model is, on paper, a little faster than the PS5, yet the S is a lot slower than the X or a PS5 and thus making the fast X slower than its needs, cause of the slow S.

                      Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023Does the PS5 really need a separate stand to be placed vert... moreIn a SAFE way, I think.

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                        ShoneRL, 11 Oct 2023PS5 proving itself to be a really unappealing, expensive co... moreprobably for you personally bro, not for everyone for sure
                        because if we look at sales chart like this :
                        https://www.vgchartz.com/article/457024/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-sales-comparison-march-2023/
                        https://www.ampereanalysis.com/insight/playstation-5-hits-40-million-console-sell-through-milestone
                        https://www.ign.com/articles/ps5-shoots-through-40-million-sales-tracking-slightly-behind-ps4
                        ps5 sales is 2x xbox

                        probably xbox have great deal, but still more people prefer ps5 over it

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                          Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023To anyone considering this, HOLD. This is PS3 all over a... morewait like another 2years, and closer to life cycle
                          yeah it slimmer and most likely cheaper too, especially for people dont problem playing games in previous generation

                          but for those people want next-gen-console, few bucks cheaper not worth waiting time

                            Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023Well no one stops Sony from using a smaller fab node like 4... moreFrom 6nm to 4nm I don't think it will significantly smaller compare to previous generations die size differences

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                              To anyone considering this, HOLD.

                              This is PS3 all over again. Wait for Super Slim model....

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                                Does the PS5 really need a separate stand to be placed vertically?

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                                  Anonymous, 11 Oct 2023Well no one stops Sony from using a smaller fab node like 4... moreWhich ends up in much higher costs that people like you don't wanna pay.

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                                    DeepIn2U, 11 Oct 2023Too big, cause it's 4 years old?! Lol You must'... moreConsole only has one game.

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                                      NiJon, 11 Oct 2023What do you need a 'pro' model for? The current g... moreWhat do you mean? All new games barley run at 720p 60 fps on the ps5, and once unreal engine 5 games will come out it will get even worse.. hardware getting old every 3 years n the demand ls higher than ever!

                                        Its Milan, 11 Oct 2023light weight okay but small? People expect too much, like, you really need it to fit in your pocket?

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