Counterpoint: iPhone 15 series is selling worse than predecessors in China

16 October 2023
Huawei reportedly outsold Apple with its Mate 60 series.

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Anonymous, 17 Oct 2023It rly makes me happy to see anticonsumer companies failing... moreHow does that change the fact that they’re releasing worse phones now than the previous generation?🫠 yeah politics bla bla bla I used to care a lot about that. And well, I don’t use Chinese phones as a matter of preferences. But? Still overheated phones with horrible cameras.

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    Bodygard, 16 Oct 2023"iPhone 15 series is selling worse than predecessors i... moreTo be fair, pretty much all smartphones are like that now. Better specs and same features as before just slightly improved.

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      -Trix-, 17 Oct 2023Don't know what you mean Apple improved their IPhone 1... moreiPhones have trailed Samsung phone sales for years and so I don't think it will happen but I suppose apple are more valuable

        st0rmtr00per, 16 Oct 2023It's in line of what their expectation was, overall it... moreA joker telling a joke 😂

          ikekeke, 17 Oct 2023idk where you got the "Chinese camera good" idea.... morei also dont know where you got your info, Owned and used apple (last one iphone 14 pro max) and huawei (last one P50 Pro) and im not comparing apples and oranges but both phones has an amazing camera. It all comes down to preferences. The only thing that made me let go of the p50Pro was the lack of Gservices. I sold the iphone 14 pro max and bought s23 ultra and still got some change. Never regretted the decision.

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            • 17 Oct 2023

            The last time Huawei out sold Apple iphone, they got banned. Can't imagine what will happen this time.

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              Mike9625, 17 Oct 2023It rly makes me happy to see anticonsumer companies failing... moreIt rly makes me happy to see anticonsumer companies failing. Maybe the next time they will try to bring a good product for the U instead of an overpriced fragile oven. Same for Samsung… they’ve been doing the same phone for 3 generations. Cameras, instead of improving are getting worse, over processed, saturated and fake AF. The chipsets hotter than ever, nothing but a cable inside the box, featureless than ever. And the segmentation between the high end phone and the not so top of the line is just disgusting. You can not expect to have a good and pocketable phone with all the bells and whistles cuz it’s all reserved for the Ultra/PRO/Alien/Holy one… duh. Buying a phone these days feels boring

              Were you on about samsung with the hot chips? Because that's just not true. I had an S20 FE and my girlfriend has a S22 and the Z fold 5 I just got is running cooler than them easily (even at the hot spot where the processer / gpu is). I'd never touch chinese phones under the current political environment of China with dictators that are actively aggressive against the Philipines (stealing their waters in the indo pacific sea), America (constant anti western threats and nudging against America), Japan (stirring up their public to harass japanese with phone calls over fukushima water despite they themselves releasing more nuclear heavy water into waters regularly). India (attacking india recently), their overall support of anything that is anti western whether it's Iran, North Korea, Russia etc. They're hankering for a war and hankering to create that spread of repression to other regions like taiwan just like they oppressed hong kong and the uighers. Sadly the writing is on the wall that they are war mongers and dictators so I'd never trust them with my data while they deliberately prod at the west over and over while showing they can't be trusted.

                Anonymous , 17 Oct 2023Has everybody forgotten China's rule of banning iphone... morehahahaha...really...

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                  -Trix-, 17 Oct 2023Kind a hard to believe, why would they suddenly stop buying... moreMaybe their nationalism was stirred up by the sanctions. Or maybe not and their old phones still satisfy them. But if I were a Chinese, I'd be salty after Tim Cook says the will move to India. Right after his China visit.

                    ikekeke, 17 Oct 2023idk where you got the "Chinese camera good" idea.... moreWdym oversharpening ? Huawei alone destroys Apple and Samsung when it comes to photo quality, let alone Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo lol

                      Anonymous, 16 Oct 2023I wonder why? Maybe because they're literally blocked... moreYes... Exactly lol. It's blocked so you can't use it. What's your point?

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                        Mike9625, 17 Oct 2023It rly makes me happy to see anticonsumer companies failing... moreSo true... I wouldn't have say it better

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                          Has everybody forgotten China's rule of banning iphone for the govt officials. Only they can use chinese oem's. That was mostly the reason for Huawei outselling apple

                            Anonymous, 17 Oct 2023Improved, yes... a lot? Nah..Yes a lot in times where phones are already very matured and there's not that much to improve. Yet Apple were able to release very compelling upgrade and that's why demand are sky high

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                              -Trix-, 17 Oct 2023Don't know what you mean Apple improved their IPhone 1... moreImproved, yes... a lot? Nah..

                                Anonymous, 17 Oct 2023This is what happens when you lobby to get your competitors... moreDon't know what you mean Apple improved their IPhone 15 series a lot and that's why they are selling like hot cakes. Almost one month wait for pro models currently. Owned 15 Pro Max for two weeks and this phone is so great and the camera is just stunning! And the weight of this phone! I have a feeling iPhone 15 series will make sales records and help Apple to outsell Samsung this year in overall phone sales.

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                                  This is what happens when you lobby to get your competitors banned instead of improving your product. Your competitors will eventually overcome the ban and outcompete you. Apple and Apple fanboys get no sympathy from me.

                                    Kind a hard to believe, why would they suddenly stop buying iPhone when this year upgrade was lot bigger than earlier years. 15 series is selling really well around the world. Maybe we just should wait Official information. Sounds like typical Apple doom news and then official numbers comes which say they are best sellers.

                                      It rly makes me happy to see anticonsumer companies failing. Maybe the next time they will try to bring a good product for the U instead of an overpriced fragile oven. Same for Samsung… they’ve been doing the same phone for 3 generations. Cameras, instead of improving are getting worse, over processed, saturated and fake AF. The chipsets hotter than ever, nothing but a cable inside the box, featureless than ever. And the segmentation between the high end phone and the not so top of the line is just disgusting. You can not expect to have a good and pocketable phone with all the bells and whistles cuz it’s all reserved for the Ultra/PRO/Alien/Holy one… duh. Buying a phone these days feels boring

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                                        JaiHind69420, 17 Oct 2023You don't even know the difference between "bough... moreWow, look who was triggered over a typo. Look pal, you are giving Apple fandom a bad vibe with this stereotypical "I use Apple therefore i am better than you" attitude.