Counterpoint: iPhone 15 series is selling worse than predecessors in China

16 October 2023
Huawei reportedly outsold Apple with its Mate 60 series.

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Wait a minute. Plenty of 'content creators' said Iphone is outselling Huawei by a long mile in China. Not going to give names, but if you are on Youtube you know which channels I am talking about. Well, these channels also been saying "China is collapsing soon" since 2020...

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    • rKP
    • 17 Oct 2023

    [deleted post]Yes but it is widely used in android devices so people attached USB C with android.

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      • Calvin ELf
      • ib4
      • 17 Oct 2023

      Iphone is good....but....cant see improvement in these few year after iphone 13pro max....Every year almost the same , really disappointed + now global finance issue, surely people choose to buy other brand .

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        • 17 Oct 2023

        rizki1, 16 Oct 2023Huawei is back.Imagine what huawei can do to apple and samsung even in the .U.S if it is available there.

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          • 39x
          • 17 Oct 2023

          Bodygard, 16 Oct 2023"iPhone 15 series is selling worse than predecessors i... moreI don't know, and don't let Apple bother me too much.

          You sometimes see people with relatively old iPhones in that regard, I ask is it affordability or does that model fit their needs

          Apple has played that game for years, people want the best, even though the may not Nedd it.

          Being down 4.5% is nothing given the mark up in each iPhone

          You make a good point, about user experience and some people's desire to own an iPhone

          I know people can go from Android to Apple, for me there is nothing in Apples walled garden that would make me switch, even if the iPhone 15 Pro max wer €600

          There are so many Android flagships that can provide ALL the services I need

            Its Milan, 16 Oct 2023didn't you guys post it broke sales record in China on... moreYou don't even know the difference between "bought" and "brought".

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              • Anonymous
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              • 17 Oct 2023

              ikekeke, 17 Oct 2023idk where you got the "Chinese camera good" idea.... moreYour anecdotal evidence doesn't speak for everyone. My friends swear on Huawei cams bit had to migrate due to removal of GMS. This company would've been number 1 by now on Android if it weren't for Trump.

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                • Anonymous
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                • 17 Oct 2023

                Samsung and Apple will fully realize that they cannot sell the same bs for higher prices soon
                Let them burn

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                  • 17 Oct 2023

                  Apu61, 16 Oct 2023I really wish all Chinese phones could be available here...... moreidk where you got the "Chinese camera good" idea.

                  Even on China, there was a controversy a few years ago because their selfie software was so broken that facial features were being exaggerated. Most Chinese midrangers have really crappy sensors and cameras, and nvm the flagships, where all the good hardware gets lost with oversharpening.



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                    • 16 Oct 2023

                    I really wish all Chinese phones could be available here... Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi flagships mainly. And all BBK brands too, including Oppo. The reason is that they have FABULOUS cameras! Right now there's only the Vivo X90 (Pro) with a great camera and great specs, powerful and fast! And a now totally overpriced Pixel 8 (Pro) with sub par specs. Slow. Samsung is overpriced and jaded... I frankly don't get why anyone would buy a Samsung phone unless they need a pen. Their camera stabilization is poor and that's crucial. Let Apple people buy Apple but Samsung people need options. Frankly, unless you can buy all devices by Apple, you shouldn't touch the iPhone. Fact. Serious compatibility issues. So open up the Android market! It will be good for everyone.

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                      • mtk
                      • 16 Oct 2023

                      Kaki, 16 Oct 2023But without Google. In China Google doesn't exist

                        Makes sense, given how hearty China's phone market is right now.

                          Mikey, 16 Oct 2023Conveniently skipping the part where this is talking exclus... moreWhere does it say the 15 is beating the 14 in the rest of world? any data to back that up?

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                            • ucw
                            • 16 Oct 2023

                            Anonymous, 16 Oct 2023I wonder why? Maybe because they're literally blocked... moreIt's because there are much better services than Google in China.

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                              • ucw
                              • 16 Oct 2023

                              Anonymous, 16 Oct 2023Not surprising given the economic problems China has now, y... moreYou forget that the top 3% of china population is greater than the entire population of USA, and are probably richer than the top 10% of USA population on the average.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • 6p{
                                • 16 Oct 2023

                                It's time to Show up Next for Apple

                                  This is because there’s no gold nor red colors. Seriously, those Chinese really love red and gold.

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                                    • 16 Oct 2023

                                    Anonymous, 16 Oct 2023China is a strange place where they regularly stir up natio... moreHilarious to claim nationalism or targetting foreign countries is somehow related to China. Particularly what you see in the US, EU and India.

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                                      • 16 Oct 2023

                                      Anonymous, 16 Oct 2023I wonder why? Maybe because they're literally blocked... moreGoogle was barely used even before it was blocked.

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                                        • gD6
                                        • 16 Oct 2023

                                        Anonymous, 16 Oct 2023China is a strange place where they regularly stir up natio... moreDid you mean "USA is a strange place where they regularly stir up nationalism and target foreign companies, often times Chinese"?