iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus to jump straight to A18 chip, rumor says
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- Dravid
- s8a
- 30 Nov 2023
I think Apple will introduce a SE4 phone with a17 (not a17 pro). a18 for ip16(+) and a18 pro for ip16pro(max).
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- I2d
- 30 Oct 2023
tupperware, 22 Oct 2023because A17 was a FLOPYeah lol better buy A15 or A14 processor device
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- Anonymous
- d%E
- 22 Oct 2023
different year same phones.
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- tupperware
- UGk
- 22 Oct 2023
because A17 was a FLOP
- Kangal
- Hqa
- 21 Oct 2023
Hey Vlad, just want to point out a fallacy in the article:
" differentiating features between the 'vanilla' (read: cheaper) iPhones and the more expensive Pros. "
The A16-Bionic chipset is just as expensive as the A17-Pro, if not more. The TRUE reason that Apple does this, is not for cost-cutting but to make an artificial difference between their devices. The A16 is built on TSMC's best 5nm node ("4nm") and Apple pays a premium for it, because their A15 was "too good". The A17 was supposed to be based on the TSMC 3nm node, which came with +30% uplift in performance/efficiency. But seemingly due to problems at TSMC it's looking like a +1% upgrade. Apple and TSMC have longstanding contracts, so I would assume for the next 12-months that Apple is getting a HUGE discount from TSMC.
Now, for next year there is ZERO reason for Apple to use the A17 or the "faulty" 3nm node. They will use the normal/proper 3nm node that was promised, because it will be cheaper for them. Now I suspect, that one of two things might happen:
- Apple says stuff it, continues making A17-Pro chipsets for the cheaper iPhones, and has the new A18-Pro chipset offer a proper generational (20% or more) uplift.
- Apple makes a new gameplan, where they design two chipsets each year. An A18 chipset and an A18-Pro chipset, and using the same node/lithography. The difference would be one of silicon quality. So the good wafers will have higher clockspeeds, more cores, larger GPU, or a combination of those.
(They've done this already if you look at the slowest M1-Pro chipset and compare it to the fastest M1-Pro chipset... or compare the M1 family of chips from the slowest M1 MacBook Air, to the nimble M1-Pro MacBook 14, to the fastest M1 Max in the MacBook 16. So Apple can do this again, but on a larger scale for the smaller chips starting with next year.)
....by the way, Apple is pretty good at recycling old designs and parts into making new products. Traditionally they don't make midrange devices, they just sell their previous flagship next year at a discount, and that tactic was one of the key reasons for their success.
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- YUU
- 21 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2023If the A18 is going to be a rebranded A17 Pro, then yeah, t... moreIt'd be too kind for them to use the Pro series chipset on the vanilla 16 lmaoooo. They'd probably rebrand the underclocked A17 Pro (A17) as A18 next.
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 21 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2023Apple are not an Chinese Oems and even if they did it A17 p... moreI see my point has eluded your comprehension. The comparison I made was simply on the rebranding of chipset.
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- Anonymous
- at1
- 21 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2023If the A18 is going to be a rebranded A17 Pro, then yeah, t... moreApple are not an Chinese Oems and even if they did it A17 pro still
more powerful than any Soc around.
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- Anonymous
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- 21 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2023You comparing Apple to mediatech Lol.If the A18 is going to be a rebranded A17 Pro, then yeah, the chipset rebranding is something Mediatek has also done.
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- Anonymous
- 0cB
- 20 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2023He's looking for a phone with an undamaged screen aka ... moreHe won't find it for now. In the future maybe.
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- Anonymous
- at1
- 20 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2023That's also what I feel is going to happen, which woul... moreYou comparing Apple to mediatech Lol.
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- Anonymous
- at1
- 20 Oct 2023
FatShady, 20 Oct 2023you pay a grand just to buy a solid phone? you can get a so... moreBetter than wasted on half packed chines android phones.
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- jamalu96
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- 20 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2023Iphone comes with better glass call it ceramic shield bette... morethe ufs 4.0 is faster storage than nvme in iphone 15 pro.
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- FatShady
- rpt
- 20 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2023I use iPhone 15, and it’s pretty solid device!you pay a grand just to buy a solid phone? you can get a solid one for a fifth of the price.
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- Anonymous
- at1
- 20 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2023UFS 4.0 is faster.Nope google it.
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- 20 Oct 2023
LosEstupido, 20 Oct 2023Only the rich get to experience 4GHz of greatness on a phon... moreDon't forget Mediatek which no longer will use small cores and Qualcomm will dissapear small cores on the next year
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- Anonymous
- CbE
- 20 Oct 2023
F17, 20 Oct 2023my guess… A17 Pro = A18 . 🤷🏻♂️Nope, A18 and A18 pro will be manufactured with the same "N3E" second-generation 3nm process instead of "N3B" that's used for the A17 Pro. I think there will be just some GPU core differences.
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- alcatraz
- mvC
- 20 Oct 2023
I'm not an apple user so this might not be accurate but...
I read that the A16 in the vanilla Iphone 15 is not the same found in the Iphone 14 Pro. It's a different process node, so why is it still called A16? Isn't it then "A17 lite"?
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- Cpt.Power
- SH3
- 20 Oct 2023
If the new chip wont be worse than the last one it could be interesting.
Othervise not so much.
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- Anonymous
- 3Y7
- 20 Oct 2023
I use iPhone 15, and it’s pretty solid device!