HarmonyOS Next is almost ready, will drop Android app support

13 November 2023
The OS is ready for rollout.

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It is funny reading commenrs in here,

First of all, you can already run google apps with gms on Huawei phones by using GBox or Gspace.

Harmony OS is microkernel arxhitexthre. It means common kernel and kernel services with user apps and their own services. This allows the same OS to be adopted to many different HW. There hasnt been any microkernel OS in large scale. IPhone is hybrid microkernel and android because its based on linux is monolithic. Like linux you wait years for an official update becsuse it is monolithic

HarmonyOS is already used in many HUAWEI devices includinf earbuds, tablets, watches and now their new EV. It really doesnt matter if they use ARM.or RISC V and my guess is they will move to risc v in the next kirin because they want to make sure arm isn't sanctioned.

HarmonyOS next is basically phone without APK support. Why? Google is already trying to ban them from using APK in android 14. So why would huawei support APK?

What will happen next is that all Chinese mobile phone manufacturers will support harmony OS and Harmony OS next. They will have their own "adapters" to run android on it. But as time goes on more apps will be in harmony OS

Btw. Microsoft edge office teams etc have already joined the ecosystem. For most apps it won't be much of an effort as it is just a different API call vs calling android

You will see harmony is globally. Not just huawei but xiaomi oppo etc will all support it. The market dominating influence in China will spread. It will end up with galaxy or koreans running android, iPhone on iOS and chinese manufactures on harmony next.

    Anonymous, 20 Nov 2023The ban It's come from united states And us told it&... moreYes, and the two chiefs had an interesting meeting in San Francisco few days ago.

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      • 20 Nov 2023

      RexSceleratorum, 19 Nov 2023"ARM and RISC-V is 98% similar" Firstly, this ... more"Firstly, this needs some evidence. RISC is a category of instruction sets, and belonging in the category does not mean they share anything at all."

      Half true
      Half false
      All RISC share the same basic way of doing things.

      "RISC-V was built from the ground up to avoid taking any IP from ARM,"

      RISC-V & ARM were forked from the same RISC branch. Please remember that patents right do expired after certain period of time. After expired, all can use it freely.

      "so I very much doubt that they are similar."

      You're wrong

      "Secondly, that's not how it works. If you produce native ARM code, you can't run it natively on a RISC-V CPU even if it turns out to be 98% similar."

      True.
      But the 98% part means the work to make it fully supported is easy.

      "You need a CPU with the exact same instruction set. Or a superset, of course."

      ARM & RISC-V actually have the same instruction set.

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        • 20 Nov 2023

        Vinaigre, 19 Nov 2023So it was a fake news? All right. You did not reply to ... moreThe ban
        It's come from united states
        And us told it's vassal state to obey too
        But not all vassal state follow

        And...
        It's not banned in other than us+vassal

          Anonymous, 19 Nov 2023Quite funny, and to add as well that many huawei users refu... moreI do not agree with you on this.

          If the the CCP is spying me while I am in the USCP, I do not care. Because the CCP will not inform the WH that I wrote or said something which is forbidden by the USCP laws.

            Anonymous, 19 Nov 2023That was missinformation Huawei still sell their phone i... moreSo it was a fake news? All right.

            You did not reply to my question...

              Anonymous, 15 Nov 2023"Although it would become a problem if RISC-V takes of... more"ARM and RISC-V is 98% similar"

              Firstly, this needs some evidence. RISC is a category of instruction sets, and belonging in the category does not mean they share anything at all.

              RISC-V was built from the ground up to avoid taking any IP from ARM, so I very much doubt that they are similar.

              Secondly, that's not how it works. If you produce native ARM code, you can't run it natively on a RISC-V CPU even if it turns out to be 98% similar. You need a CPU with the exact same instruction set. Or a superset, of course.

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                • 19 Nov 2023

                Vinaigre, 18 Nov 2023Yes maybe you are true, maybe not. Anyway if they prepar... moreThat was missinformation

                Huawei still sell their phone in SEA (Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, ...)
                Also still sell well in west asia. In fact, the sales of Huawei in west asia have been rising due to last conflict in the region.
                And Huawei also rising in latam & africa

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                  • 19 Nov 2023

                  Anonymous, 17 Nov 2023It's so funny reading the comments of people defending... moreQuite funny, and to add as well that many huawei users refuse to believe that replacing gms with huawei's own spyware and proprietary os makes it better for "privacy" and security when all they doing is literally just swapping one for another.

                  It's not a better alternative, it's just an alternative.

                    Anonymous, 17 Nov 2023It's so funny reading the comments of people defending... moreYes maybe you are true, maybe not.

                    Anyway if they prepare their global return to the EU and the USA they will have to put some OS in their devices, ANDROID or HARMONY OS. We will see.

                    And why was it banned outside of China?

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                      • 18 Nov 2023

                      I was thinking about buying Huawei Watch buds but if it will not be compatible with Android phone i am not going to buy it.

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                        • 17 Nov 2023

                        what dose it mean ready for rollout ? it means on all huawei phones or juts chaina models?

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                          • 17 Nov 2023

                          It's so funny reading the comments of people defending this change contradicting each other, first you read them saying "it is good to have more competition!!" but then they go "china is its own world! who cares if they are not popular outside of it!!"

                          So which one is it? You can't just say you love more competition when in reality you will never see HarmonyOS in your own country because it was banned from selling in it, that just means iOS and Android will continue their duopoly and draconian practices as usual.

                          If you want to be more realistic about the matter then it is the chinese who are currently affected by this change, because their HarmonyOS phones could run apks but now they "magically" won't be able to. If your phone loses software functionality that can NEVER be considered a positive in any sense. It is really worrisome to see people not putting their gray matter to work.

                            Anonymous, 16 Nov 2023In China, Huawei is very big. Big enough that can't b... moreYes, and slowly they will make the apps compatible with Harmony OS.

                              Anonymous, 15 Nov 2023Hopefully HarmonyOS is end of Huawei the world only China c... moreWhat are you talking about?

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                                • 16 Nov 2023

                                Anonymous, 15 Nov 2023That would be not good. Many apps aren't available on ... moreIn China, Huawei is very big.
                                Big enough that can't be ignored.
                                All those app maker inside china will certainly support harmony.

                                Then, Some of the non-China will also try to support Huawei harmony if they want china.
                                This will create a great support of harmony.

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                                  • 15 Nov 2023

                                  That would be not good. Many apps aren't available on their store and we download the apks files from playstore, that means they won't work anymore?
                                  they need to work on their store first before doing that major step

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                                    • 15 Nov 2023

                                    Hopefully HarmonyOS is end of Huawei the world only China can have Huawei phones after this but in the world going be dead brand after this because no Anrdoid apps allowed anymore use newest HarmonyOS.

                                      Ashen, 15 Nov 2023Really happy that a brand new OS is coming to the market. A... moreYes but they should bring us few phones too before...

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                                        • 15 Nov 2023

                                        Really happy that a brand new OS is coming to the market. As a huawei user um eagerly waiting for its arrival

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