The Elec: First iPhone with UD camera to launch after 2026
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- 16 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2023This tech will never be good. Amount of light cannot be s... moreThat is why there is road map. 🤣🤣🤣
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- 16 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2023This tech will never be good. Amount of light cannot be s... moreAnd Samsung still using it on Galaxy Fold. And will test on its prototype until the implementation.
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- DaFink
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- 14 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 14 Dec 2023You said it's a wasted effort but you legit came back ... moreWhat this boils down to is I think UD cameras take terrible pictures by comparison to standard front facing cameras on comparatively priced devices, and you disagree.
So it’s your opinion against mine because you also haven’t offered anything beyond an opinion. But I have to ‘re read all my comments again, stop calling names and start making sense’ etc etc.
Yes by all means stop conversing, because it seems to have escaped your notice, but you haven’t yet said anything of relevance at all 🤷
Jog on!
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Dec 2023
DaFink, 09 Dec 2023Jeez, what are you on, seriously? First you’ve not debun... moreYou said it's a wasted effort but you legit came back here to reply me. Maybe you have bad memories and I recommend you go through all your comments again before changing subjects, you simply called the UD camera tech trash (akin to picture taken through a dirty window l, didn't u?) Which was simply blatant lies and u went ahead to over exaggerate them to be very bad and that was typical fanboying. Am not gonna converse anymore on this argument cause your very far from making sense and it's ridiculous how you say it. I suggest you read ur comments again. And mind you am not saying UD camera are the best, am saying they are good by today's standard, but u going as far as bashing them when you haven't used one was clear bias like it or not. If you had actually stated not wanting them on iPhones then it would have been a different case but you went ahead calling names and stuffs, and there was not an atom of sense in what u said. If by any means what you said was actually true that means an A05 would take better selfie right? Wrong. And am not mad by any means cause I use an iPhone 14 pro max and a used z fold 4 and ofc the iPhone does better in all camera department but the zfold is no slouch either, am just puzzled at how despite you typing long words you can't make a simple sense or link of how bad UD Cams are.
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- Jagganatha
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- 13 Dec 2023
An auto-focussing good selfie cam that records RAW and has Optical Image stabilization is a great idea as the means to create great self-portraits. However regardless of where you might put a selfie camera, unless it has these abilities AND can do the usual jpeg sweep panoramas of you with your groupies en famille, why bother?
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- Jagganatha
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- 13 Dec 2023
the selfie camera and face id are just unecessary gimmicks, but the simple answer is that any screen on anything needs to be the same proportion and dimension as the images from the camera sensors are.
AH!!! Umm! there are no phone camera sensors that are more than 3:2 (rare) and most are 4:3, which is the same squarish format as old CRT tube monitors and TV sets had before widescreen.
I have an LG G4 from 2015 that defaults to 16:9 onscreen, but theres still loads off room for the mic and selfie camera in a seperate area above that 16:9 screen, such that my statement that UD cameras are unecessary and a gimmick must ring true for many.
I believe we are going into reverse and losing an intelligent perspective to the point that developers and manufacturers can sell us anything, however dumb and needless it is, as here. What IS going on?
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- 12 Dec 2023
Imagine a phone still having a hole in the display in 2027, lol Apple is so out of touch.
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- Knight 21ST
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- 09 Dec 2023
Apple could just introduce touch ID & get rid of the annoying cut out on the screen, it's that simple
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- DaFink
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- 09 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 09 Dec 2023Again think before you actually make a comment, and stop fa... moreJeez, what are you on, seriously?
First you’ve not debunked anything, not a single thing. The only thing you offered in your little raving rant even close to a reason why the UD camera quality isn’t comparatively bad is because people will buy a DSLR 🤷
Second, how does exactly my stating I do not want Apple to compromise the front camera quality by prematurely putting it under the display constitute ‘fanboyism’
Look, your not making a lick of sense here, so I might suggest it’s you that needs to rethink your comments, and perhaps ‘squeeze ur brain a bit more’, only in your case I’m getting the impression that is going to be a wasted effort.
Oh and I make it very clear that I only speak for myself, I have repeatedly stated that my comments are my opinions only, unlike many others on this site I might add. Though appears you missed all that, even though you’ve ‘Going through all ur comment’ which doesn’t say much for your reading skills, does it 🤔
In the end I don’t like current UD camera tech, to me (notice I’m speaking for myself again, I mention it cause your not all that quick on the uptake) it offers more compromise than benefit and I don’t want it in an iPhone anytime soon. Choose to get offended by that if you want, I really don’t give a stuff!
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- Anonymous
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- 09 Dec 2023
DaFink, 08 Dec 2023‘Do the selfie quality of the z fold 5 looks dirty? I don&#... moreAgain think before you actually make a comment, and stop fanboyism. I don't care if you have a hard understanding it or not, maybe u should squeeze ur brain a bit more. I simply debunked ur gibberish slangs of UD cam looking like dirty windows and you think ur actually making sense here, you over exaggerated the UD camera quality like it was really really bad when that isn't true. If they were that bad would people buy them?. And I suppose your not buying an UD camera phone, right? Then stop bringing it to shitty comment as you only speak for yourself. And stop comparing them to the Apple rumor which hasn't been approved, that's just clear fanboying. Try to think at least, it's not that hard. GSMArena is to give your comment and review not comparing technology with technology or bashing brands. Going through all ur comment am extremely shocked of this mentality.
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- 08 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2023You're being dishonest and not arguing in good faith. ... moreBecause I’m arguing from a different perspective means i’m not arguing in good faith and being dishonest?
Come on dude, lighten up. We are just seeing things differently is all.
To me having a couple square mm back on the screen, and thus having be uninterrupted is not worth the trade off in imaging quality offered by the front facing camera, you think otherwise? so be it.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Dec 2023
DaFink, 08 Dec 2023That I’m already not buying devices with UD cameras Okay. I wasn't suggesting that you were. Most people don't buy phones with UD cameras because most phones don't have UD cameras.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Dec 2023
DaFink, 08 Dec 2023Actually, What I am saying is the small amount of visible s... moreYou're being dishonest and not arguing in good faith. Obviously, you must know that the point of using an UD camera is to make the screen unhindered, not to increase a tiny amount of the screen area. If the purpose is to increase a tiny amount of the screen area, which it isn't, then yes, it's not worth it.
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- 08 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2023I don't know what point you're trying to make.That I’m already not buying devices with UD cameras
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- 08 Dec 2023
Marco M, 08 Dec 2023It does improve for every new generation and for those who ... moreYes only self-centered people use a selfie cam 🤦♂️
None of what any of you lot are saying changes the fact that placing the camera under the display comes with a massive hit to quality. And for me personally, when it comes the cameras on my smartphone, I kind of want quality to be the first consideration before any other. And yes that includes the one on the front, it does have its uses.
And I am well aware that technology improves. That was kind of my original point after all, that I don’t want UD cameras they have improved beyond a certain point, that currently are nowhere near that level.
All this is just my opinion mind, not asking any of you to agree, by all means go buy the first UD cam sporting ZTE or whatever you can find.
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- 08 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2023You don't get the simple point. It's not about in... moreActually, What I am saying is the small amount of visible screen area regained by placing the camera underneath the display is not worth the massive reduction in quality of camera output.
That’s just my opinion, you are of course welcome to disagree. Claiming I’m not getting it just because I have a different opinion though, I little disingenuous don’t you think.
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- 08 Dec 2023
DaFink, 07 Dec 2023I’m sorry but to me that is not a sufficient reason to sacr... moreIt does improve for every new generation and for those who are not self-centered and taking selfies all the time, the main camera on the back is what is used for capturing events and the UD front facing is just for video calls and snapchats etc. As long as it is good enough for video calls and snapchat, it is good enough for many.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Dec 2023
DaFink, 08 Dec 2023‘Do the selfie quality of the z fold 5 looks dirty? I don&#... moreYou don't get the simple point. It's not about increasing the screen area. It's about making the screen uninterrupted.
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- 08 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2023"I have come to an appreciation of the more deliberate... more‘Do the selfie quality of the z fold 5 looks dirty? I don't think so, cause most people who buy them would take a DSLR and a selfie stick with them’
😂😂…I’m sorry dude, having trouble taking anything you say seriously after that little gem.
A. How the F do you know what ‘most other people’ do?
B. So why should Android oems bother with camera tech on their smartphones at all then eh, after all most people just walk around with a DSLR, right 🤷
Don’t talk to me about thinking before I speak, not after coming out with nonsense like that. And yes I have used many Androids in my time.
In short none of that total gibberish you came out with disproves the fact that UD cameras currently suck, and represent a huge step backwards in imaging quality versus a very minor gain to screen real estate.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Dec 2023
DaFink, 07 Dec 2023Way ahead of you on that one……I don't know what point you're trying to make.