The next Sony Xperia Pro is rumored to have a rotating camera ring

18 December 2023
The ring will give you manual control over zoom, aperture and focus, just like on a real camera.

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Nick Tegrataker, 19 Dec 2023XZ3's display was made by LG (https://www.oled-info.co... moremade by/ manufacture and RnD is not the same thing. The P OLED blueprint ( leverage from 1st Oled tv XEL-1 panel by Sony ) was came out by Sony Japan Rnd team lead by Tetsuo Urobe back in 2007.then they transport organic transistor technologies to mobile panel. LG just only repaterned it again by OEM licence agreement and re sold back to Sony for cheaper cost reason and Sony can safe money. Read the whole OLED history bro...

    PhoneFreak45, 19 Dec 2023Okay but once again that's not the target audience of ... moreIt IS still a target audience of Xperia lol, sure it prioritises cameras and audio output but first and foremost it's a phone. Very few people have time to adjust the settings on a phone camera every single time when it's used as a point-and-shoot for the majority of the time.

    Also, I've never said the current Xperia has a bad auto mode, I was just replying to a user who claimed "real photographers don't bash phones without good auto mode" which was a straight-up bizarre statement for anyone to make.

      NOK6600, 19 Dec 2023 Sony Xperia enthusiast camera phone was not target to laz... moreI've been shooting for events using Sony's ILC for some time now, but thanks for your amazingly helpful input because you definitely sound like one of those online "opinionated armchair photographers" who haven't shot a single photo with a camera or a phone.

        NOK6600, 19 Dec 2023as already 19 years gsm reader and I said you are wrong a... moreXZ3's display was made by LG (https://www.oled-info.com/lg-display-supply-sony-p-oled-displays-future-smartphones), Bravia Engine is a dedicated video processor designed by Sony, that's nothing to do with the panel itself.

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          Anonymous, 19 Dec 2023Only XZ3 has LG panel, probably same used by V series. Al... moreThis is the truth.

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            David 040882, 19 Dec 2023As a photographer, you would think it's the perfect ph... moreThere's no need for alot of things , but great that engineering moves forward, so that all things can ultimately improve no?

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              Anonymous, 19 Dec 2023Sony are indeed garbage in terms of camera software. They n... moreIn case you do not know, it has been done for 5 years.

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                Minu, 19 Dec 2023Sony itself confirmed in an article that their mobile divis... moreOnly XZ3 has LG panel, probably same used by V series.
                All other Pro, 1, 5 and 10 have oled from Samsung.

                When you remove screen from phone, you see code on it.
                With the code you know who is the supplier.
                Codes that start with AM/AS are samsung.

                  PhoneFreak45, 19 Dec 2023You ever wondered why camera lenses have rotating rings? I ... moreAs a photographer, you would think it's the perfect phone for me. But it's not. Guess why? BECAUSE PHONES DON'T NEED THIS FEATURE AND NOBODY ASKED FOR IT. It's a selling point to attract customers, there's no need for it, nor it would make it easier to take photos. It's that simple, just as with many other "innovations". They have to keep bringing something interesting or new in order to keep the customers into buying their products. I'm amazed you don't realize that. So the one to accept it should be you and move on.

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                    Will, 19 Dec 2023In 98-99% of cases the automatic mode of Huawei, iPhone, Sa... moreAlso, about 99 % of their phones have a longer update promise than Sony's disasters.

                      Nick Tegrataker, 19 Dec 2023To me, phones without good auto mode are pretty useless bec... more Sony Xperia enthusiast camera phone was not target to laz... people like you.
                      Profesional photographer always want to customiize and calibrate to the best photo they can shoot.
                      Auto mode was suit for school kid or gramma which know nothing about photography.

                        Anonymous, 19 Dec 2023Apple has won several best display awards using only Samsun... morewho care . SONY XZ3 is the best P OLED in the world till today.

                        Do yo kbow apple is planning to shift crappy chi...n..BOE panel when they start manufactring in India.

                          Minu, 19 Dec 2023Sony itself confirmed in an article that their mobile divis... morebut the RnD stage was started from Sony JAPAN itself. Read the history.

                            David 040882, 19 Dec 2023🤣 It's not about for who Sony phones are. It's ab... moreYou ever wondered why camera lenses have rotating rings? I would hope so since you think this is useless. If a company makes an android phone, and you're in the market for an iPhone, that doesn't make the android a bad phone, it just means it's not for you. This has nothing to do with marketing. Sony phones aren't for you, accept it and move on.

                              Nick Tegrataker, 19 Dec 2023Xperia's OLED panels have always been made by either L... moreas already 19 years gsm reader and I said you are wrong and wrong. P OLED X -bravia engine was origin from Sony Japan RnD team. it has nothing to do with LG or the S plastick brand .

                                Nick Tegrataker, 19 Dec 2023To me, phones without good auto mode are pretty useless bec... moreOkay but once again that's not the target audience of Xperia phones, so it doesn't matter. Also, the auto mode is pretty good on the Xperia 1 V. I hadn't bothered to mention this until now, but not only is it ridiculous to call a phone bad for not having a feature you want, it's also ridiculous when your experience with auto mode on Xperia is a 3 year old 5 II.

                                  justasmile, 19 Dec 2023So you're saying rotating camera is true innovation. ... moreEver used a camera before? Yeah I didn't think so. It's called a control ring dummy, and if it comes to light it'll be the first phone to have one.

                                    Minu, 19 Dec 2023Sony itself confirmed in an article that their mobile divis... moreThis is probably true for 5 series, but X1 uses 4K panel made by Samsung:
                                    "The display panel is supplied by Samsung and uses a newer DDIC generation. I’ve been trying to investigate as to how Sony implemented the 4K resolution in terms of the connectivity between the SoC and the DDIC..." by Andrei Frumusanu on July 26, 2019 8:00 AM EST (anandtech.com)

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                                      Anonymous, 19 Dec 2023Sony are indeed garbage in terms of camera software. They n... moreIt's not garbage at all. Even in auto mode it's no garbage like many here have posted. What makes the difference is your expectations of what mobile image/video should look like that you would constitute as good. Nothing wrong with your perception of how image should look like out of the mobile camera, but it probably doesn't align with my perception especially when it comes to video output.

                                        Nick Tegrataker, 19 Dec 2023Smartphone manufacturers may need to start considering usin... moreVery Interesting. Some great ED and a few other types of coating are definitely necessary. Smartphones need to improve noise and sharpness at the pixel level and concentrate on computational photography algorithms for improving the exposure latitude as well.

                                        Smartphone makers could also do a mini metabones kind of lens work, where the outside most lens is much larger than it already it, and use a much sharper lens element with much greater contrast to help create much better fine detail. I guess they do something similar, though I guess the outermost lens could be even larger and of even high quality.

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