HMD teases its first self-branded smartphones

27 February 2024
One of HMD's upcoming smartphones may feature a 108MP main camera.

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Anonymous, 03 Mar 2024I'm keeping this short as you have stated you struggle... more""The best or most important thing OWNED or PRODUCED by a particular organization."

The fact that you CANNOT or simply will NOT accept the above DICTIONARY DEFINITION! You always try to turn this into your FLAWED observations, debunked many times."

So, by your nonsensical logic the S23 Ultra isn't a flagship phone, and neither is the S24+, only the S24 Ultra is. Got it, and you are right I will not accept this "definition" as it's nonsense.

"PUBLIC FORUM not private forum & NO Messaging."

Public forum indeed, about phones, not about personal arguments like yours.

    Anonymous, 03 Mar 2024I'm keeping this short as you have stated you struggle... moreSwitching to completely anonymus comments now huh, as if it wasn't obvious who made this comment.

    "Pointless: you keep posting mistake after mistake. I and others correct them you hate this so distract."

    Nobody other than you TRIES to correct me, you are trying very hard but keep failing. Why? Simply because it's impossible to prove my experiences wrong, as they are MINE.

    "PUBLIC FORUM not private forum & NO Messaging.
    Rules plus MODERATOR, ( who can delete)
    Anonymised comments, ID & LOCATION."

    Exactly, rules, there are rules that you don't follow. Rule 2,3,4, and 5. Constantly spamming your hatred towards me for no reason.

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      DarlingYext, 01 Mar 2024"I'm keeping this short as you have stated you st... moreI'm keeping this short as you have stated you struggle with everything."

      Posts a comment that's about 3 times as long as the article itself. LMAO

      I'm by the way not struggling with anything, as much as you hate me, and hate to know that, I simpy know that most people don't care about comments this long. I only read it up until the point where it becomes obvious that it's yet again nothing but a hate comment against me, and this one is no different.

      "Flagship, an understanding of the definition, your specious text shows you don't."

      How so? Care to give me any reasoning behind this sentence? My main phone is a vivo X Note, and I know you know that, yes it's 2 years old, but at that time it was a flagship phone. So what, should I call it a midrange phone now that vivo has made objectively better phones? No, that's not how it works, it's a flagship, just not a recent one.

      "You've made your vitriolic hatred of HMD known in this and the Barbie theme article"

      You've made your vitriolic hatred of ME now* in this and in the Barbie theme(d) article and in nearly every other comment you've ever posted. What's the point, what are you trying to achieve here?
      I'm here to comment about phones and have civil conversations with other people from this community, while you seem to be here for me, and me only. Your obsession towards me is just plain creepy, and disgusting, and most of all pointless.

      *Just correcting your grammatical error here.


      And here we go again....
      Thanks! Your text as usual is wrong.

      1st if the only support you can get is from a person whose ONLY communicates using emojis good luck, 2nd time 5 sleeping emoji

      Do you think Gsmarena will go all out emoji on article and reviews?

      Flagship & WHY YOUR TEXT WAS WRONG!

      "The best or most important thing OWNED or PRODUCED by a particular organization."

      The fact that you CANNOT or simply will NOT accept the above DICTIONARY DEFINITION! You always try to turn this into your FLAWED observations, debunked many times.

      You are hoping that readers don't notice the absence of a response yet again.
      Your text are voluminous, lack substance and are usually WRONG.
      You post I CORRECT, you try to distract.

      This is your again tried and failed go to DISTRACTION attempt.

      'Your obsession towards me is just plain creepy, and disgusting, and most of all pointless.

      Why it doesn't work

      PUBLIC FORUM not private forum & NO Messaging.
      Rules plus MODERATOR, ( who can delete)
      Anonymised comments, ID & LOCATION.

      You select other points to respond to OMITTING any and all references to the quite frankly nonsense comments YOU posted.

      Pointless: you keep posting mistake after mistake. I and others correct them you hate this so distract. Or do you want free range to post utter nonsense without redress?

      Obsession: I did post this

      'Rhetorical question if I don't respond to your text how do you know I have posted?"

      You may one day post an accurate well observed critique of Gsmarena article that actually conveys knowledge to the reader.. Nah

      In the page long comment you found what YOU PURPORT (wrong) to be a grammatical mistake.

      "You've made your vitriolic hatred of HMD known in this and the Barbie theme article"

      Unlike you I will ADMIT to the above it is plain I did write it. (BUT I AM RIGHT, YOU ARE WRONG... AGAIN).

      The question for the narrator (that's me...I Just Read ....yay!)
      is THE EVENT BEING REPORTED ON, HAS IT HAPPENED (in the past) OR SCHEDULED (in the future) EVENT?

      (Everybody with the exception of yourself understands the above & it WILL have clicked)

      Tenses (his finely honed muscles)

      'HMD to unveil Barbie flip phone and new Nokia phone this Summer' 25/02/2024 article

      Last paragraph
      Finally, we can look forward to two HMD-branded smartphones coming in July. We don’t have any info on these either for now.

      (Tenses)
      I write IN THE PRESENT REPORTING ON A FUTURE EVENT.

      The THEME of which will be the HMD / BARBIE PHONE

      NOT! as if I were present now and writing on a future event as if it HAD already happened

      In conclusion
      It's good that you have a high consistency rate (as this shows) of being wrong

        I Just Read, 01 Mar 2024"I'm not saying their phones are terrible value, ... more😴😴😴😴😴

          I Just Read, 01 Mar 2024"I'm not saying their phones are terrible value, ... more"I'm keeping this short as you have stated you struggle with everything."

          Posts a comment that's about 3 times as long as the article itself. LMAO

          I'm by the way not struggling with anything, as much as you hate me, and hate to know that, I simpy know that most people don't care about comments this long. I only read it up until the point where it becomes obvious that it's yet again nothing but a hate comment against me, and this one is no different.

          "Flagship, an understanding of the definition, your specious text shows you don't."

          How so? Care to give me any reasoning behind this sentence? My main phone is a vivo X Note, and I know you know that, yes it's 2 years old, but at that time it was a flagship phone. So what, should I call it a midrange phone now that vivo has made objectively better phones? No, that's not how it works, it's a flagship, just not a recent one.

          "You've made your vitriolic hatred of HMD known in this and the Barbie theme article"

          You've made your vitriolic hatred of ME now* in this and in the Barbie theme(d) article and in nearly every other comment you've ever posted. What's the point, what are you trying to achieve here?
          I'm here to comment about phones and have civil conversations with other people from this community, while you seem to be here for me, and me only. Your obsession towards me is just plain creepy, and disgusting, and most of all pointless.

          *Just correcting your grammatical error here.

            "I'm not saying their phones are terrible value, but they don't have any high-end phones, or even upper midrange ones, apart from maybe the X30, which is however a phone that wasn't and still isn't good value, HMD didn't take the Nokia brand seriously, thus I see no reason to take them seriously.

            I mean what are their plans for the HMD brand again? Modular phones? Cool idea, but not really original, which isn't the issue here, but if even the (at this point) obviously much larger brand Motorola under Lenovo failed with their modular idea, almost destroying the Moto brand entirely, what is HMD thinking? They are digging their own grave is what they are doing."

            Linking this to the other mind boogling comment in this section

            Flagship, an understanding of the definition, your specious text shows you don't.

            "The best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization."

            Apples Pro Max ** is Apple current flagship Samsung S** Ultra. The 2020 equivalent models are NO LONGER the flagship

            Your comment all fall into the same category I have seen undigested alphabeti spaghetti that makes more sense.

            In the 7 months I have been "re activated" the text have not improved (despite my scrutiny) one iota suggesting that the near 6000 post are of the same poor calibre.

            You've made your vitriolic hatred of HMD known in this and the Barbie theme article

            HMD or not is a personal choice affordability / features? If HMD offers what they want above say the Energizer P28K (you went overboard with that one) it's their choice. Price specs and finally the Gsmarena comparison tool.

            I'm keeping this short as you have stated you struggle with everything.
            Rhetorical question if I don't respond to your text how do you know I have posted?

            Quick observations

            Original it DOESN'T have to be SALES or market share so
            non phone e.g car manufacturer. Non car Unilever also P&G manufacturer many laundry detergent brands so new entrants do not take a large share.

            Flagship just for you again rote, "The best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization."

            FOOD. Restaurants / Burger bar / takeaway I can get a side salad at a Michelin restaurant or a takeaway.

            Article is 'HMD teases its first self-branded smartphones'
            You couldn't wait pre criticism of the unknown in

            What is HMD thinking?
            This is an ability which if you had are not evident in the text

            You seem to be on a path of deliberate misinformation.

            This comment from the Samsung 1 TB micro SD memory Card

            "A fantastic option to just pop into their flagship phones for more storage.. oh wait..'

            Can you see where you went wrong yet again?
            "A memory card is a portable storage device that is commonly used in electronic devices such as digital cameras, smartphones, tablets, and gaming consoles. It is designed to STORE AND TRANSFER DATA including photos, videos, music, and document"

            Even if your phone DOESN'T have a micro SD slot (who said Samsung were targeting you?) a 1Tb card can still be used. If your FLAGSHIP phone has USB OTG data can be transferred WITHOUT connecting to PC

            "Oh wait I completely nixed another text" is how it should have ended.

            "I see no reason to take them seriously."
            "They are digging their own grave is what they are doing."

            You may one day post an accurate well observed critique of Gsmarena article that actually conveys knowledge to the reader.. Nah

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              DarlingYext, 01 Mar 2024I'm not saying their phones are terrible value, but th... moreIf they had to take the brand seriously, they need to be stable with the amount of resources. The licensing fees are yet undisclosed, meaning it was likely unprofitable for Nokia mobile to deliver a variety of mobile phones to each type of consumer.

              Ironically, Lenovo has an unlimited amount of resources. Instead of giving a respectible value to the name "Motorola" while innovating (something Motorola itself was infamous for not doing), they choose to churn ODM giraffes consistently with a poor software update policy instead, similar to the old Motorola, that used to completely depend on Arima, Longcheer and Compal to make their phones.

                Minu, 01 Mar 2024Agree with your opinions, but you definitely had better exa... moreI'm not saying their phones are terrible value, but they don't have any high-end phones, or even upper midrange ones, apart from maybe the X30, which is however a phone that wasn't and still isn't good value, HMD didn't take the Nokia brand seriously, thus I see no reason to take them seriously.

                I mean what are their plans for the HMD brand again? Modular phones? Cool idea, but not really original, which isn't the issue here, but if even the (at this point) obviously much larger brand Motorola under Lenovo failed with their modular idea, almost destroying the Moto brand entirely, what is HMD thinking? They are digging their own grave is what they are doing.

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                  DarlingYext, 01 Mar 2024Flagship killer? I'm a flagship user, not some flagshi... moreAgree with your opinions, but you definitely had better examples from Nokia that are decent value, instead of a US-exclusive US$110 low end, which is at least 30% cheaper than the alternatives (Galaxy A03s 3/32 at US$200 and Moto G Pure at US$150). The US market is extremely uncompetitive, and out of scope for Eurasians, Africans and Latinos with rather compelling options. If you need an example for a decent US-exclusive phone, there is the Nokia G50, retailing at just US$130 for the 6/128 with the SD480 in brand new condition, sold officially via the respective e-commerce sites.

                  Also, Nokia has abandoned eMMC for good, even in their low ends. The last time they used an eMMC is for the 3/32 variant of the G11, and the C02 (which is a rebranded Nokia C2 2nd edition). All the C series phones and above use UFS chips, thanks to their choice of Unisoc chipsets instead of Mediatek low end chipsets upto the G9x series. Even the US-exclusive C210 used a dated UFS 2.0 instead of eMMC, which is mistakenly added to the database. You can refer to device specifications and Kimovil, since it's not available outside the US.

                  Also, the low end G11 Plus with UFS 2.0 at the launch price of $110, the C32 with a Gorilla Glass 3 back panel, 6/128 configuration and UFS 2.1 (disrearding the 22nm chipset) at $90 during launch, and the G42 (Indian variant) in the 8/256 configuration, launched at INR12000 were already compelling options from Nokia.

                    Carol, 29 Feb 2024Funny, you already torture yourself, with garbageware that ... moreFlagship killer? I'm a flagship user, not some flagship killer, but I guess if you think something like the Snapdragon 855+, 865, or 8 gen 1 are torture in comparison to chipsets like the Snapdragon 480(+), Snapdragon 662, or Snapdragon 695 then that's that.

                    On the other hand I feel like you misunderstood me, which is fair, I made myself sound like I hate Nokia. However I don't, but I definitely dislike what they've become, and all of that is naturally because of HMD, so I'm not just gonna accept them as a new brand and start liking what they do, when they've essentially destroyed Nokia. I personally own multiple Nokia devices, including ones before HMD, like a couple of 3310s, and some made by HMD, like the Nokia 8 Sirocco, which is a beauty, and the innovative Nokia 9 PureView, these were great devices, but I'm sorry these days are gone. I'm not gonna sugar-coat phones like the Nokia C210, and G310, they are simply outdated in every aspect they've got, and while being the newest Nokia phones they are already half a year old. They should've made more phones like the Nokia 8 (Sirocco) and the X30, but oh well, look I get that not everyone wants to, or has enough money for a flagship, but I personally would've loved a new Nokia flagship, and I'm sure I am not alone with that.

                    Oh, and what is this? Prime example of what not to do when you've got the license to produce phones under one of the biggest mobile brand's name.

                    https://m.gsmarena.com/nokia_c110-12321.php

                    Helio P22, eMMC 5.1 and 5W charging.. sounds like I'm talking about a phone that's at least 6 years old, but it's actually from last year and even then it came with an already outdated Android version.

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                      matteventu, 29 Feb 2024These are not made by Nokia.This days everything is made by nokia, the companies buy so much inteligence from nokia, or well, just still it like vivo, that the only thing that's not nokia remains the case design...

                        Subramanian CN, 28 Feb 2024Things which seem unpleasant to you need not be unpleasant ... moreYeah you're right, there are so many things that are unpleasant to me but pleasant to people, I've never tried to make people think like me they can love or hate anything they want, just take it easy it's not an honour fight, I said something that comes from my experience from designing career. These names have always strugle flin marketing.
                        And again you're right about shotlrt term things too, companies make a lot of money by them, long term and sustainable products aren't profitable, also tech fans like short terms bc new devices are exciting, it's so fun to buy new smartphone aech year even if it
                        be expensive. but earth can't feed these thirst forever its resources are limited and people's voracity about short term things is not.

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                          Mobilemaster, 29 Feb 2024It is a shame that Nokia now only makes cheap phones for th... moreThese are not made by Nokia.

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                            DarlingYext, 27 Feb 2024Thanks, I'll be on the lookout if I ever want to tortu... moreFunny, you already torture yourself, with garbageware that emerged a couple of years ago in the form of "flagship killer" on paper, you just did not noticed it by now, because, well... some call it a different kind of Stockholm syndrome with similar effects.

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                              CurlyBlonde, 29 Feb 2024Shame on HMD for running the Nokia name to the ground and m... moreAgain, you talk not to shut up, there are literaly no nokia smartphone build by hmd that was of cheap quality. Not even the cheap of all cheap c series, and i used a pot of them in the past 5 years, r8ggt now owning x30 which is a great devices and definetly NOT cheap. Your opinions are based on what? Air? What other said, that also never owned a nokia device from hmd, not even from nokia?

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                                CurlyBlonde, 29 Feb 2024And there you have it,Nokia, from leading the mobile phone ... moreFunny, cause "yesterday" you were complaining about how expensive nokia devices are,

                                  Minu, 29 Feb 2024The only thing that keeps Nokia alive, is that their low en... moreAnd there you have it,Nokia, from leading the mobile phone scene with it's countless achievements in the business, HMD has only managed to reduce the Nokia name to filth, rendering it nothing more than low class, third world, undeveloped countries go-to cheap option & landfill for the rest of the modern world.

                                  Utter disgrace to plaster the Nokia name regardless of how much they paid for the licensing.

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                                    announcing a camera that is already 3 years old on the market....

                                    Seriously they should stop the business and start doing something else instead... We won´t judge you HMD....

                                      Minu, 29 Feb 2024The only thing that keeps Nokia alive, is that their low en... moreIt is a shame that Nokia now only makes cheap phones for the third world countries.

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                                        CurlyBlonde, 29 Feb 2024Shame on HMD for running the Nokia name to the ground and m... moreThe only thing that keeps Nokia alive, is that their low ends are significantly of better quality, compared to likes of Samsung, Xiaomi, BBK etc. They wouldn't bend in a back pocket of those careless third world people. And those phones don't break that easily from a slight drop, unlike an Apple phone or a low end Samsung with a glossy plastic display that shatters from the first bump.

                                        Most of the Nokia users are from third world countries, that bought Nokia phones due to lack of options in the low end segment after import limits from government restrictions, poor value-for-money from Chinese low ends, Samsung etc, lack of software support and after sales services from other brands for low end devices and consistent inflation of smartphones from retailers.

                                        You can definitely get much better phones at twice or more than that, since you can likely afford a better phone. But for low ends, I'm yet to see any brand coming close to Nokia in terms of user experience and reliability. I wouldn't go too far to defend Nokia's low ends, but instead, I'd rather praise them for what they're good at, and criticize them for what they need to improve on.

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