vivo X100 Ultra will be a professional camera that can make calls, exec says
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- 14 Apr 2024
Jon8652, 13 Apr 2024200MP at 100mm is crazy. Can't wait for this phone, th... moreDon't get your hopes up, doesn't matter if the sensor is 200MP if the lens can't resolve it. Which, spoiler alert, a telephoto lens in a phone can't even resolve 20MP let alone 200MP.
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- 13 Apr 2024
They first need to improve camera quality of X100 non pro version.
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- 13 Apr 2024
JamesSpencer, 13 Apr 2024Vivo need to ensure all phones are with a global rom. Cu... moreBut you can easily "activate" Google play store on Vivo China ROM without installing anything from shady web site
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- 13 Apr 2024
200MP at 100mm is crazy. Can't wait for this phone, though slightly disappointing that they used the 8 Gen 3 not the mediatek.
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- 13 Apr 2024
Vivo need to ensure all phones are with a global rom.
Currently all Vivo phones on AliExpress are chinese rom based.
Europeans with lots of money, not buying Vivo because of this silly silly mistake!
Also a 7 inch screen would be nice, Excellent phone, with Excellent screen and Excellent Cameras
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- 13 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2024Another phone with type 1.0 that cannot beat rx100 mark 1.
😒"Another phone with type 1.0 that cannot beat rx100 mark 1"
The arrogance is huge in this one, lets compare the rx with gcam 1" phone? it will get demolished.
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- 13 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2024Now they just one upped everyone. Vivo now wins the camera ... moreThat phone may have dual 1" sensors as per rumor, compelling if true.
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dcdev, 13 Apr 2024Full frame 😏medium format :v
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- 13 Apr 2024
All just hype.. I've had most flagship Android phones mostly, not into Apple ecosystem.. No doubt smartphone cameras have improved over the years with great features including AI, but as a photographer myself, nothing beats a professional camera made for a specific purpose. Physics always wins, smartphones can't accommodate larger sensors and do not have the flexibility of switching different lenses for different purposes. As for colour reproduction, some like vivid and some like real natural colours, it's personal preferences. For me, I like the real close to natural look so that I can edit it later on. Also displays on most smartphones do not faithfully reproduce the desired colour space (sRGB or DCI P3) so you cannot edit photos on smartphones with precise colour accuracy.. 🤔 Anyways, let's see what Vivo brings to the table.
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- 13 Apr 2024
It is possible that the X100 ultra will be hype and the resulting difference from the X100 Pro will not be as significant as we expect.
I find the discussion below silly and pointless. I have a Canon G7X M2 and a Vivo X100 Pro. It often captures more detail, but also often lags behind the Vivo (especially at night). If you don't have a tripod at night, even a DSLR with a good sensor is not enough for smartphone night mode. And image stacking in HDR offers amazing DR.
It's up to everyone how they can use their equipment.
Btw. I have even Lumia 1020 - It can't compete with Vivo... nor N808. Be reasonable.
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- 13 Apr 2024
Arjun kerala, 13 Apr 2024Can't consider vivo in this price range with it's... moreEspecially to the US. BBK's only access to the US is only OnePlus.
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- 13 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2024Seriously you just compared using center of photo taken by ... more"Seriously you just compared using center of photo taken by 1" against those 1/2.9" or smaller?"
Yes, because the user I replied to was claiming that the Quad Bayer sensor wouldn't be able to resolve as much details as a regular Bayer sensor of the same resolution does. Your RX100 wouldn't be able to do that because after the 2x crop it would only have 5MP which would never outresolve 12MP.
"How about crop out of imx989 vs crop out of bayer type 1.0?"
Assuming that the lens is sharper than the sensor and there's enough light to work with, the former would win out because it simply has more resolution to work with lol. If you find maths hard then that's your problem, not mine.
"2024 and still pixel size story? FWC is not affected by it. Photodiodes are not all equal."
Go to your nearby Samsung store, shoot some photos with S24 Ultra's Pro mode in both 12MP and 50MP and tell me which one is noisier. The read noise of a sensor increases as the resolution of the sensor goes up, and there's a certain threshold where this becomes visible and overwhelms the advantage of having more pixels. On a large (MFT to Full Frame) sensor used on a dedicated camera, this wouldn't become an issue until the ISO 6400-25600 range. On a phone sensor that is significantly smaller, even shooting at ISO 800-1600 would make you feel the difference.
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Anonymous, 13 Apr 2024It is not rx100 that needs sharpening mixed with noise redu... moreIt doesn't "need" noise reduction, Sony just decided to let the photos on RX100 Mark I stay noisy because its processor can't even run half-decent noise reduction algorithms to get rid of the noise efficiently. At ISO 6400, RX's JPEG is run over by severe chroma noise reduction that destroys colours and details become utterly obliviated. RAW files wouldn't be good either because Sony's RAW compression back then messed up the colours hard and added a strong green tint to the shadows which could never be removed.
Ask GSMArena to pick up a used RX100 Mark I and shoot the usual low-light hotel shot. I can guarantee you that it would look like a TRASH.
"So fun to see comments like this on dpreview"
So fun to see someone like you who has never picked up a dedicated camera and blindlessly believes complete nonsense like this.
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- 13 Apr 2024
This applies to every smartphone executives with professional camera brandings falsely claimed that flagship smartphones can take high quality pictures as a "conventional" Cameras.
WHAT IN THE JIGSAW PUZZLES?
Just buy a midrange smartphone and a decent pro camera with lens for a price of that!
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- 13 Apr 2024
Nick Tegrataker, 13 Apr 2024"Why quadbayer sensor when a good 20mp 1" sensor ... moreSeriously you just compared using center of photo taken by 1" against those 1/2.9" or smaller? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ..... How about crop out of imx989 vs crop out of bayer type 1.0?
2024 and still pixel size story? FWC is not affected by it. Photodiodes are not all equal.
Go see who wins between A7 iii 24MP x A9 24MP.
According to you, both should perform equal.
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- 13 Apr 2024
Nick Tegrataker, 13 Apr 2024Ah yes, RX100 Mark 1 with tinted RAW files, laughable lens ... moreIt is not rx100 that needs sharpening mixed with noise reduction.
It is not rx100 that gives oil painting/wax looking photos.
So fun to see comments like this on dpreview " my old canon with 1/1.8" can wipe floor with these phones".
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- 13 Apr 2024
Inline 4, 13 Apr 2024Why quadbayer sensor when a good 20mp 1" sensor is ava... moreZero to do with resolution.
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Hanif Fikri, 13 Apr 2024All other brands have it mostly it's just scamsungWell then can your phone do dex? Quick share? Regular and strong software support? Galaxy AI? Well Samsung's hardware is certainly questionable, their software and its features are top tier.
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Phone Critic, 13 Apr 2024This Phone will be once in a Lifetime 50MP LYTIA 900 1... moreIMX858 is a 50MP sensor, so we can't get a 180MP telephoto with an IMX858 sensor.
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- 13 Apr 2024
professional camera that can make calls...
like sony xperia pro series...
leica leitz series...
sharp aquos series...
but, tbh, even the previous vivo x series are already excellent when it comes to cameras...