vivo X200 Pro camera details leak

13 August 2024
It will have a 200 MP telephoto.

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AnonD-1167022, 13 Aug 2024Digital Chat Station has said that the X200 Pro will ship w... moreI could not give you more praise if I tried. I'm dying to find a new phone besides the Pixel 8 Pro that has a flat screen with a curved body, and the Pixel 8 Pro is basically almost the same thing as my Pixel 7 Pro. I need some serious upgrades, but seeing as how Google's both abandoned the flat + curved design and serious upgrades, I'm likely not getting another Pixel. So, what do I get that has this combo? I'm screwed.

    Nick Tegrataker, 14 Aug 2024"Sensor still is far less sensitive. Light is wasted.&... morealso as far as I know the only thing the stacked sensors actually help in is rolling shutter when taking videos and photos. I haven't seen these "hardware nerds" talk about that. Goes to show they just make up random numbers, talk about random stuff with confidence and act like others are less intelligent than them just to prove a point that they pulled out of their behind.

      Anonymous, 13 Aug 2024Imx888 is much stronger than anything crap iqoo has. Its ... moreman you again, I truly don't care about what you say unless you cite your sources and help me learn what all this even means AND how you even got this data.

        Anonymous, 13 Aug 2024It was lie from oppo. Lyt T808 is variant of Lyt800 ( im... moreOppo never claimed that LYT-T808 and LYT-808 are the same sensor. Stop lying.

          Anonymous, 13 Aug 20241/1.28 is at most 74 mm2 area. Type 1.0 is about 123.5 mm... more"Sensor still is far less sensitive. Light is wasted."
          The only time where light would be "wasted" is when both sensors are capturing images at the base analog gain level, and as the ISO climbs up, the difference becomes less relevant (given the fact that both X100 Pro and X200 Pro would use the same shutter speed, the former would need to use a higher ISO to match the exposure).

          The newer sensor technology that could be used by X200 Pro (According to leaks it might be triple conversion gain HDR) would further offset the difference. Unlike LYT-900, IMX989 doesn't even support dual conversion gain HDR to begin with.

          X100 Ultra *will* stay ahead of X200 Pro, though, as the LYT-900 inside the former is in the same generation as the upcoming Sony sensor used by the latter.


          "How about paying for exmor T instead of wasting money on using expensive chips like 8g2/D9200/D9300 inside midrange phones like iqoo neo series"
          Fun fact: The difference in sensors' noise levels is even less noticeable to average users than the difference in performance between higher midrange and high-end SoCs. Not everyone is a camera hardware nerd🤷

            "Sony sensor manufactured on a 22nm process (vs. 40nm before, a pretty significant change)." Bs again, the 22nm process is not new. Sony IMX709 from 2021

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              Semper, 13 Aug 2024If they still insist on a curved screen for me will be hard passDigital Chat Station has said that the X200 Pro will ship with a "micro-curved screen", like the one on the Xiaomi 14 Pro/Ultra and Huawei Pura 70 Pro/Ultra.

              I do really wish these companies would give us more flagship options using flat screens, if you're actually serious about protecting your devices, tempered glass screen protectors are very hard to find for curved displays. And these micro curved ones are no different.

              Some say it's better for comfort reasons but considering the extremely warm reception to the Pixel 8 Pro's flat display and curved body combo, sometimes praised as the most comfortable flagship of 2023, I can't really see a reason for curved displays...
              I think some people think flat screen automatically means flat edges and back, and while that's usually how companies handle it, it shouldn't be that way!

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                CamoGeko-XDA, 13 Aug 2024Hello and welcome!! 🤗 Hopefully you enjoy your stay, an... moreThank you! I've actually been using this website daily for a little over a year, I just never interacted. I know a few too many spec sheets to be considered anything but obsessed with smartphones ahah

                If there are just a few people able to share their opinions in a respectful and very insightful manner then I'm sure I'll enjoy this place.

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                  If they still insist on a curved screen for me will be hard pass

                    AnonD-1167022, 13 Aug 2024Yeah toxicity runs deep around these comment sections ahah,... moreHello and welcome!! 🤗

                    Hopefully you enjoy your stay, and don't let the trolls get on your nerves.

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                      jiyen235, 13 Aug 2024Yes! I just wonder what Vivo would've done with an IMX... moreImx888 is much stronger than anything crap iqoo has.
                      Its FWC is 83% compared to Type 1.0, despite its size is less than 45% compared to it.
                      Exmor T tech increases light sensitivity by 100%.
                      An exmor T with 1/2.5" could beat an imx890.

                      Imx903 (1/1.14") of next iPhone pro is far stronger than lyt900

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                        jiyen235, 13 Aug 2024I feel you man lol, being unable to clean in a satisfying o... moreYeah toxicity runs deep around these comment sections ahah, I'm really happy I got to have a proper discussion! I just created my account today so I'll be plenty active on here from now on, I look forward to further conversations!

                          AnonD-1167022, 13 Aug 2024For the cleaning part, I do fully agree. My OCD would go nu... moreI feel you man lol, being unable to clean in a satisfying or normal way is so triggering.

                          Anyways, I get your point now and yeah! These phones rule, getting a 1 incher in such small form factors along with full blown flagship phones is unbelievable. Also, I'm not too sure about the Realme one, I think it's just battery or display or something that allowed them to thin down, their camera bump seems to be larger based on press photos at least. I think it has to do with both the f/2.7 vs f/2.8 aperture and the 1/1.95" vs 1/2.0" size difference of the 13 Pro+ vs the 12 Pro+. Idk maybe I'm looking too much into it idk.

                          It was nice reading the arguments of someone sane and level headed for a change of pace, thanks for that man. Usually people are quick to villainize the opposing side lol

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                            jiyen235, 13 Aug 2024Yes! I just wonder what Vivo would've done with an IMX... moreFor the cleaning part, I do fully agree. My OCD would go nuts if I couldn't clean my Iqoo 12's cameras with a simple wipe from a cloth...

                            And also, I didn't explain it very well, but I don't mind bigger bumps on flagships that specialise in photography. I think it's awesome to see the tech being pushed further and further each gen, and if bigger bumps are necessary then go for it! Heck if you consider these phones as pocket point and shoot cameras, they're incredibly thin all things considered.

                            I just hope Vivo (and other manufacturers for that matter) keep offering balanced options spec wise plus design wise, it seems the Iqoo 13 is gonna end up very similar to the 12 so I'm glad they're sticking to it at least.

                            The realme 13 Pro+ recently introduced the successor of the 70mm OV64B periscope BBK has been using everywhere, and it's visibly thinner than before while offer an ever so slightly larger sensor. It seems to me like the lens is designed in a similar way to the X100 Pro's but shrinked down. My hope is to continue to see a mix of better sensors and better optics to offer high-end camera performance without the drawback of being top heavy or having an intrusive bump on your grip.

                            Finally, yeah I think Sony's obsession with keeping their smartphones nearly camera bump free is causing them to be incredibly behind the competition to a painful degree... I wish they'd be more competitive and push as hard as other brands. Heck they'd be able to showcase their new sensors before everyone if they wanted to.

                              AnonD-1167022, 13 Aug 2024I think I get your perspective now, thanks for taking the t... moreYes! I just wonder what Vivo would've done with an IMX890, well no point in thinking about that now we're getting the GOAT HP9 lol and yeah it's great that we're getting it on a "cheaper" flagship.

                              Hmm I kind of disagree on that, I do agree that phone camera bumps are kind of ridiculous but only if it's done with poor design, for example Samsung, Apple or even Google. Samsung and Apple have separated cameras that are tough to protect with a case so you just get a protruding case which just defeats the purpose of separated camera lenses, then Google has sharp edges that are tough to clean just like Samsung and Apple. Vivo, Oppo and Xiaomi have large camera bumps that contain all the modules and can easily be protected with a case and cleaned, a dream for clean freaks like me.

                              Also, camera bumps are gonna be bigger for bigger sensors/sensors with larger apertures, so if you want the best of cameras you have to sacrifice something, for example look at Sony's flagship, a measly 1/1.35" main sensor, 1/3.5" and 1/2.5" auxiliary sensors, beaten by the IQOO 12 in terms of size easily. All that just for a "thin" profile. I think if someone wants the best then they need to be able to live with the compromises, these camera bumps for example.

                              And besides, for anyone who wants smaller bumps, phones with worse cameras than the best flagships are available like the V40 Pro for example. I don't mean to say your concern is wrong it's just that flagships need to justify the higher price with better cameras and better cameras/sensors require more space so the bigger bumps are needed. I don't want flagships like the 1 VI that cost more than most flagships yet have midrange tier cameras (compared to stuff like the V40 or IQOO 12 for example).

                              Oh and btw, I liked the X90 series's design but I feel like it would've wobbled on a table for being on the side, so I prefer the X100 and X80 series's designs. I loved the X80's design, it felt like the perfect blend of big camera bump and the Nexus 6P/Pixel 6's visor type look but maybe that's just me, I was gonna buy that phone just cus of the design but stopped due to the awful super telephoto cam and went with the S22 Ultra. Gonna buy the next Find X Ultra or Vivo X Ultra phone if they're global and have variable aperture, and that's why I wanted a bigger main sensor lol, the 1/1.3" one on my phone kinda sucks and I don't see any point in upgrading unless it's to a 1 inch sensor and if it has variable aperture cus too much blur is not what I always want lol

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                                jiyen235, 13 Aug 2024I never said that the telephoto sucks or anything. The tele... moreI think I get your perspective now, thanks for taking the time to explain it to me!

                                Actually I think I agree with your ideas for what would've been a better X200 Pro. Losing the Pro as the balanced option is a shame, and I'd rather have a slightly smaller telephoto if it could mean a better main camera and thinner, less intrusive camera bump... For now the HP9 periscope is quite the insane piece of tech but I don't mind it being reserved for the Ultra. (Albeit I'm kinda excited to see this stuff go down in price ranges so quickly)
                                A solution similar to Oppo's IMX890 persicope but with a focal lenght closer to 70-85mm and better focusing distance could actually be quite the upgrade over the allmighty OV64B!

                                I'm repeating myself but I do miss the X90's lineup design, I wish phone makers would allow their lower tier options to have more conservative camera bumps because they keep growing and it's becoming a bit ridiculous for people looking for balance in both specs and design. That's why I went with the Iqoo 12 afterall.



                                  AnonD-1167022, 13 Aug 2024The HP9 periscope dramatically outweights the lesser main s... moreI never said that the telephoto sucks or anything. The telephoto camera is actually my favourite one on a phone. I've liked zooming in ever since the S7 days, zooming in to 1.5x whenever I got the chance cus it just looked better.

                                  Anyways, I'm not saying this is a bad decision. I just think it just "feels" bad to me. Considering the fact that we're only getting a 1/1.28" sensor. In low light these sensors aren't that great compared to a 1 incher, the only one that can stand next to a 1 incher is the GN2 from the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra.

                                  All I'm saying is, a GN2 main cam with variable aperture and a IMX890 would've been a far better use of space, both the telephoto and the main cam are better than most of the crowd and don't use too much space. The X90 Pro had a 1 incher, it was the easiest entry into a 1 inch sensor for someone. Now it's gone and that just saddens me a little. I love telephotos but when recording videos, most of the time I'm using the main cam and at night ~1/1.3" sensors just don't cut it.

                                  I still stand by the fact that the X200 Pro is a nerfed X100 Pro, the OV64B will go down as one of the best, if not the best, telephoto sensor considering its size and cropping capabilities like 10x or something. The X100 Pro was great because it took the 1 incher from the X90 Pro and added an awesome UW cam and the best telephoto cam, till the X100 Ultra came, and sold in a more affordable package than let's say the S24 Ultra.

                                  I think the telephoto is a premium feature and the main cam is essential, and considering Vivo's exceptional digital zooming capabilities I believe the IMX890 on the X200 Pro would've put every other camera to shame except for the X100 Ultra. I'd just have loved a balanced approach that's all. The 1/1.28" sensor is literally a relic from 2020 now. As I said, I think Vivo is doing it so that the Ultra this year has time to shine and no one can say "just go get the Pro lol, the Ultra doesn't do much to differentiate".

                                  I respect your opinion and think it does make sense but I believe this niche feature should've been reserved for the Ultra model and the Pro should've gotten a better main cam.

                                    The Android Freak, 13 Aug 2024I truly agree. Let's wait for iPhone 17 Pro Max with i... morewhat? I was talking about cameras bro lol

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                                      The Android Freak, 13 Aug 2024I truly agree. Let's wait for iPhone 17 Pro Max with i... moreDefinitely won't have the same kind of camera hardware as Vivo's though, if that's what you care about ofc

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                                        jiyen235, 13 Aug 2024So Vivo's going to the dark side and following Xiaomi&... moreThe HP9 periscope dramatically outweights the lesser main sensor though? Going from a 1/2.51" (sensor's actually 1/2" but cropped) sensor to a 1/1.4" one is quite the upgrade! And that's not even mentionning the 200MP that allow for much better digital zoom, and the closer minimum focusing distance (18cm vs 11cm) that allows for better macro shots. For insects enjoyers like me, that feature is not a gimmick but a genuine huge strenght.

                                        I don't see this as the X100 Pro but nerfed, this is truly an upgrade. If you never really cared about the telephoto then I'd argue you should've never even cared about the X100 Pro anyways, considering it was perhaps its greatest strenght when compared with other brands.

                                        I do understand the dissapointment from the loss of the 1" sensor, but I do suspect it was done both for size constraints (unless they plan on upping the camera bump's size across the entire lineup) and BoM reasons. That HP9 periscope is expensive and probably didn't fit in the budget for the Pro model if added in, in fact, it didn't for the X100 line-up.

                                        It's a trade-off, but one made with a huge upgrade for the telephoto in mind. I'd argue Xiaomi's way of handling it was much less clear-cut and did just feel like they were trying to make the Pro less appealing specifically for people to want the Ultra instead.

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