Here's the price difference between the Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 and the Dimensity 9400

30 September 2024
It's quite a bit more than you may have expected.

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Skip this, im waiting for 8g5/8g6

    Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024Little kids over here are obsessing over benchmark numbers.... moreThat's only partially true. A16 and A17 lost in efficiency wars against SD, A16 and A17 was less efficient and drawxmore power than SD 8 gen 2 or gen 3 on max performance mode. Problem is you right, it used to be like that Apple was making most powerful and most efficient chips but nanometers game slow them down. They cannot anymore build insanely powerful and efficient chipsets because TSMC now is limiting factor and Apple has to adjusts to TSMC progression with lithography not other way around, that helped SD to catch up with Apple. SD has advantage now in GPU space while Apple chipsets has advantage in CPU space, though both on the mercy of TSMC. As we know Apple now trying to cut SD progression while booking all the chips in advance like 2nm ones will only be available for Apple first next year.

      Kale, 01 Oct 2024Of course they will outshine A18 lmao. You never buy ifail ... moreApple chipsets were 2 or 3 generation ahead of any Android chip not long ago. Constantly years from years, since like Apple introduced 64 bit chips more than decade ago. That is over, still Apple is leading in CPU department, they still kings. GPU wise, it was dethroned few years ago by SD, and so far SD keeping the lead with Mediatek sounds like will do the same. Though Apple's GPUs still are fast just not the best anymore.

        Keep that in mind, that Qualcomm wanted to sell this monster for 240 dollars per piece. Thanks god we have Mediatek, but we need more competition, two leading chip makers is not enough.

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          Apps run better on SD ... like behance etc

            Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024You've misread my comment. I'm saying the US can&... moreFair enough. My bad!

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              Aierlan, 01 Oct 2024What government subsidies? I know the US is giving large s... moreYou've misread my comment. I'm saying the US can't attack MediaTek in the same way they attack Chinese companies by saying that they can charge less for their products because they receive govt subsidies. MediaTek is a Taiwanese and not a Chinese company.

              FYI, Qualcomm and MediaTek are both fabless chip makers that rely on chip foundries like TSMC to manufacture their chips.

                Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024There's no way Qualcomm can justify charging 20% more ... moreWhat government subsidies? I know the US is giving large subsidies to semiconductor companies that set up manufacturing plants in the US but this applies to Taiwanese and US firms and those from other countries. For example, TSMC, Intel and Samsung have all been given subsidies to set up foundries in the US. How do subsidies apply to qualcomm? To be honest it's up to manufacturers to decide on which chip they want to use. They now have options. If they are not satisfied with the Qualcomm price they can switch to mediatek. There is no monopoly for the chips now as there are alternatives basically for nearly all perfomance levels and the manufacturers have the choice for which chips they use.

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                  Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024Little kids over here are obsessing over benchmark numbers.... moreArchitecture ?
                  Apple start using Arm v9 this year with A18/A18 Pro
                  Qualcomm and Mediatek use Arm v9 since december 2021!
                  Thank Geekbench 6 for testing Android flagship with Arm v8 instructions set !
                  Don't know what Geekbench 7 will find to troll Android (and X86)...
                  Frequency leaked on Dimensity 9400 is 3,63ghz, A18 Pro's is 4,04ghz
                  (9300+ 3,25ghz, A17 Pro 3,78ghz)
                  GPU comparison is even worst, A18 Pro only match last years 8 Gen 3 and Dimensity 9300
                  https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Apple+iPhone+16+Pro+review
                  https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Vivo+X100+review

                  This year, all will use TSMC's N3E node

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                    Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024They sell a worse product at a lower price I don't see... moreEven if the MediaTek chip is worse (highly doubtful), is it worse than the Qualcomm chip by 20%, which is how much more Qualcomm is charging for their chips? Qualcomm has been overcharging for their chips for a long time now due to their monopoly status. They finally have some competition after the US govt sanctioned their Chinese competitors and silly little fanbois don't think that's a good thing.

                      Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024Little kids over here are obsessing over benchmark numbers.... moreThat's why qualcomm and mediatek are catching bionic every year.This year they will be pretty close even with the better process...so Who should be worried?
                      Into the 35$ difference i thought It was going to be more honestly dragon gives you open source, better phone signal while being more efficient than mediatek in my experience...so to me justified even if i dont like qualcomm either

                        Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024Little kids over here are obsessing over benchmark numbers.... moreIn single core, yes Apple has the advantage. When it comes to multi-core, though, that's where both Qualcomm and MediaTek shine. And let's not forget the D9300 that had 4 Cortex X4s and 4 Cortex A720s which outpaced both the A17 Pro and the 8 Gen 3.

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                          JMBL, 01 Oct 2024Outshine the A18 series? They already do whether it's ... moreLittle kids over here are obsessing over benchmark numbers.

                          A18 Pro will always be more efficient as they will always get one generation ahead in terms of architecture, which means more capacitors! That literally is their deal between Apple and TSMC. The best Snapdragon could get is one generation behind Apple Bionic, and they will try to compensate that with higher clock speed. Battery life might have taken a dent slightly; some manufacturers will try to compensate that with a slightly bigger battery capacity.

                          This has alwats been the recipe for years now. You can stop obsessing with the numbers now. Do your own thing and stop obsessing to match Apple's performance 'cause you can't. The only thing you can compare Snapdragon's performance is with Mediatek.

                            Anonymous, 30 Sep 2024A savings of $35 isn't going that farIt will, let's say you had x amount to produce a phone earlier after deducting the Snapdragon chipset price. With mediatek, you'll have x+ $35 which you can spend on upgrading any component over the one you were planning to include.
                            like with snapdragon you had x budget left for camera module, not you can spend x + $35 on camera module.
                            edit: Mediatek is generally cheaper and more eager to negotiate better prices than Snapdragon and the actual price difference might even be far greater than $35, could even be $50.

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                              Anonymous, 01 Oct 2024what 5g efficiency only in phone processor is only a small ... more6g is pointless on a smartphone, 5g already drains a lot of battery , has small range and most give the same bandwidth on 5g as in 4g.
                              I don't see the usefulness of 6g on a smartphone, is like going from a car that can do 300kmH to 600km/h, won't add usefulness

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                                • 01 Oct 2024

                                They sell a worse product at a lower price I don't see anything of use or value here

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                                  • 01 Oct 2024

                                  Anonymous, 30 Sep 2024Is not only about peak performance, is about good efficienc... morewhat 5g efficiency only in phone processor is only a small part of whole 5g ecosystem which is outside phone & out of control of ur phone, dont know which dragon they want to snap, definitely overpriced compared to actual usage, btw 6g is coming so ur so called costly dragon will become outdated soon, & what u will do with that older dragon even if u have 7 years of software updates,

                                    Nono, 30 Sep 2024Snapdragon will always be better, in every other way, even ... moreso if the dimensity performs better than snapdragon, the snapdragon is still better.
                                    Interesting logic yours...

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                                      • 01 Oct 2024

                                      So these people wonder why Flagships use Snapdragon? Because Snapdragon is good for compability that is why many flagship phones with Mediatek will also come with costom ISP. The big reason why Mediatek is cheaper is closed source. It's not about performance at the first place. That is why even Note Ultra series still use Snapdragon.

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                                        • 01 Oct 2024

                                        There's no way Qualcomm can justify charging 20% more than MediaTek for a similar performing chip. They can't even use the govt subsidy bs the US are levelling against Chinese companies because MediaTek is Taiwanese. Qualcomm is obviously overcharging for their chips.

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