New iPad mini has a downgraded A17 Pro chipset

17 October 2024
It looks like a binned version with a less powerful GPU.

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CargoJoe, 7 hours agoThe minis have always used past generations chipset. Why th... more2021 mini use the same chip as the pro iphone (13 pro)

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    Boggy, 3 hours agoThe what? lol If you are talking about the Lenovo tablet, ... moreBut the Y700 had 3 variants already, 2022 to 2024, and all of them support stylus. Including the first one with was updated to use a stylus months after launch.

    And why does it matter if people find it strange you bought an overseas product? China variant phones from Xiaomi, oppo etc are popular over Asia and no one judges the owner for buying them.

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      Boggy, 3 hours agoStill, majority of people will use their phones/tablets to ... moreIt's not 2020 anymore. 99% of the devices that have higher refresh rate screens are on their "adaptive mode" be default. Whitch in most cases (non LTPO) means 120hz when using it and 60hz idling.
      When Average Joe, coming from iPad Pro or Galaxy Tab S, starts playing with he will say that "it's laggy".

        They are just garbage company with colours for people with no taste.

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          A17 Poor

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            so it is not A17 pro,
            but A17 lite

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              Anonymous, 4 hours agoHaving 60hz is like living in 2014, not 2024...Still, majority of people will use their phones/tablets to the default refresh rate settings. That means in many times their phone will be at 60Hz anyway to save battery life.
              I mean, not me, I like my refresh rate to be as the highest setting possible, lol.

              But the average users will probably use their phones/tablets the same way they came out of the box.

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                earworm, 3 hours agoJust get the y700The what? lol
                If you are talking about the Lenovo tablet, then there are two problems:
                1. Is not worldwide available. For example I didn't see it in Czechia. And here people are quite interested in tech products. So, the fact that is not available in here, it looks strange.
                2. Is a 2 year old tablet, with 2 year old Android version. I mean, ok, it doesn't matter that much in tablets, but still, is not new tablet like this iPad Mini.

                But your complaint is somehow correct. For people who want a small powerful tablet, there isn't too much too choose in Android world.
                Which is funny and sad at the same time, because some years ago, the market was flooded with 7-8" Android tablets.

                But who knows, maybe if this new iPad Mini will sell good (which I doubt), Android manufacturers will follow the trend (as usual). Because they will want a piece of the Apple pie (pun intended).

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                  DaFink, 6 hours agoWhat has four green dollar signs got to do with it? I highl... more"I highly doubt anyone is going to be willing to pay more or less for this device because the SOC has 'Pro' in it's name."

                  You are overestimating the average intelligence of people. Lol.

                    Just get the y700

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                      CargoJoe, 7 hours agoThe minis have always used past generations chipset. Why th... moreWhile Mini 3 and 4 did use older chips, Mini 5 and 6 used the best phone chip that Apple had at the time (A12 - Xs was the newest, A15 - 13 Pro was the newest)

                        xPandamon, 4 hours agoIt's about Apple giving you less than advertised. Of c... moreSo....are Apple advertising 5 gpu cores and providing 4 or something? says quite clearly on the website what is included as far as I can see 🤔

                        This new iPad is a minor refresh of the previous version in which you get a better SOC and twice the starting storage for the same money.

                        Look, I know whining about Apple is a popular pass time on this site, I'm just not seeing the major issue here. The presence or absence of 'pro' in the name on a single component is going to have no impact on the price, next to no discernible impact on the performance compared to other A17 pro based devices. And is in fact still a decent improvement over it's own direct predecessor, for the same money 🤷‍♂️

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                          Anonymous, 6 hours agothis refresh rate thing is misunderstood. (60Hz is good for... moreHaving 60hz is like living in 2014, not 2024...

                            DaFink, 6 hours agoWhat has four green dollar signs got to do with it? I highl... moreIt's about Apple giving you less than advertised. Of course it's done to save money

                              Wow, so not even the real thing that already isn't the best choice for this? Unbelievable.

                                Anonymous, 5 hours agoApple is extremely greedy. You can't call it the A17 P... moreThat would only make sense if

                                1. Removing 'Pro' from the name of the SOC (one single component of the overall device) would have any impact on the final RRP.

                                2. It wasn't already the cheapest device to date featuring the A17 Pro.

                                I already said I would have named it the A17 myself, but for another reason, one which would have zero effect on the two above points. And of course Apple are greedy, they are a major publicly traded tech company. So that is just like saying rain is wet, but as I have said a million times on this site, Apple isn't any more greedy than their competition, they are just more successful at being greedy.

                                  Anonymous, 6 hours agothis refresh rate thing is misunderstood. (60Hz is good for... more120 Hz is 120 Hz, not 60 Hz.
                                  What is your claim again?

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                                    DaFink, 6 hours agoWhat has four green dollar signs got to do with it? I highl... moreApple is extremely greedy. You can't call it the A17 Pro if it doesn't function how the original A17 pro does. You should call it the A17.
                                    But oh. "Apple greed" won't let them.

                                      Anonymous, 6 hours agothis refresh rate thing is misunderstood. (60Hz is good for... moreas someone who's been using 144hz IPS your claims just doesn't sound stupid but literally doesn't make any sense

                                        Anonymous, 8 hours agoBecause of 💲💲💲💲What has four green dollar signs got to do with it? I highly doubt anyone is going to be willing to pay more or less for this device because the SOC has 'Pro' in it's name.

                                        I would agree Apple maybe should have just labelled this as the A17, simply because it would have lined up better with the A18/A18 Pro series nomenclature. It wouldn't have affected the price though, and the differences between the A18 and it's pro counterpart go beyond the absence on 1 GPU core.

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