US Commerce Department probing TSMC as suspected chip supplier to Huawei

18 October 2024
Under the current bans, Huawei should not be able to source chips manufactured using American equipment.

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Oblix, 21 Oct 2024All consumers support Huawei and all their providers. The U... moreYeah right, have you seen the newest huahwei smartphone, the tri-fold one that actuall has 2 folds? You probably think is great? While it is a flop and that ain't US fault 100% sure. And why is a flop? Because it is an expensive trash-can that breakes like fingernails and nobody is able to properly use it...yeah true innovation.

    Anonymous, 19 Oct 2024Nope, you are wrong. Huawei phones was back then (before sa... moreI do not know what you mean, huahwei were always cheapper then any other western brand....

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      • 21 Oct 2024

      All consumers support Huawei and all their providers. The US wants to eliminate all competition until $1500 Apple phones and $2000 MacBooks are the only option for consumers. Really evil if you think about it.

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        • 20 Oct 2024

        Anonymous, 20 Oct 2024First you claim the 9006C is a new design, which it isn... moreOk, let's take this again real S-L-O-W ... read the article, it's in there, 👌

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          • 20 Oct 2024

          Anonymous, 20 Oct 2024You seem to have a thinking problem - we know it wasn'... moreFirst you claim the 9006C is a new design, which it isn't, and then you claim the US Commerce Department was just asking TSMC about the chip, and no, it appears to be a full on witch hunt. Who exactly has the thinking problem?

          We already know from numerous sources that the chip was produced by TSMC pre-ban in 2020. Inquiries as to whether the chip was supplied to Huawei post-ban aren't necessary and the US Commerce Department is acting like fools. And no, they wouldn't be foolish enough to sanction TSMC. They'd lose their source of cutting edge chips and, most likely, Taiwan as an ally.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 20 Oct 2024

            Nick Tegrataker, 20 Oct 2024Hint: Kirin 9006C is just a rebranded Kirin 9000 for laptops.🙄

            Read my previous comment.

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              • Anonymous
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              • 20 Oct 2024

              Anonymous, 20 Oct 2024"Huawei revealed the "new" 9006C after the b... moreYou seem to have a thinking problem - we know it wasn't a new design *now*, but it was reported to be a new design when it was first revealed last December. Some people were praising SMIC's 5 nm process.

              The article says "US Commerce Department contacted TSMS to ask whether it is directly or indirectly supplying Huawei with chipsets"

              "Ask them"

              No ban or anything. They're just checking.

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                • 20 Oct 2024

                Anonymous, 20 Oct 2024It was widely reported that it was a new product, eg. http... more"Huawei revealed the "new" 9006C after the ban. Analysis shows it is in fact produced by TSMC in 2020."

                How can it be a new design if the chip was produced back in 2020? The Kirin 9000S, 9010 and 9100 are new designs. The Kirin 9006C is not a new design. Anyway, why is the US commerce department investigating TSMC for making a Kirin chip before the ban back in 2020?

                  Anonymous, 19 Oct 2024How are Huawei supplying their new design 9006 from old sto... moreHint: Kirin 9006C is just a rebranded Kirin 9000 for laptops.

                    AnonD-1175487, 19 Oct 2024Define expensive. They were cheaper than Samsung or Apple p... moreIn the past, Samsung and Apple products were cheaper too. Not sure which Huawei models you were talking about. But my old P20 Pro is not cheap either.

                      In the past, Samsung and Apple products were cheaper too. Not sure which Huawei models you were talking about. But my old P20 Pro is not cheap either.

                        FreezeGame, 19 Oct 2024TSMC will be held accountable if true. Zero tolerance for d... moreI can't tell if this is a ChatGPT shitpost or if you're writing it for real, but the "When the United States opts to enter negotiations with your respective countries, consider it a privilege" part of your comment absolutely cracked me up. If someone would tell me that to my face in real life, I would tell them to f*** the right off lol.

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                          Anonymous, 19 Oct 2024No one has said it's a new design. Stop lying.It was widely reported that it was a new product, eg.
                          https://www.gsmarena.com/huaweis_5nm_kirin_9006c_is_manufactured_by_tsmc_after_all-amp-61132.php

                          "one of the centerpiece features is the new 5nm Kirin 9006C"

                          Huawei revealed the "new" 9006C after the ban. Analysis shows it is in fact produced by TSMC in 2020.

                          https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/huaweis-5nm-kirin-9006c-laptop-chip-was-reportedly-produced-by-tsmc-in-2020-dispelling-smic-production-rumors

                          That's the whole point. An apparently "new" part couldn't be made using old parts from stockpiles.


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                            Anonymous, 19 Oct 2024There's good politics and there's bad. US politic... moreGood politics? Lol, where?
                            They are both equally bad. And they are both protecting their national interests.

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                              Anonymous, 19 Oct 2024Nope, you are wrong. Huawei phones was back then (before sa... moreDefine expensive. They were cheaper than Samsung or Apple phones.
                              Maybe expensive compared to other Chinese brands.
                              I had 2 Huawei phones in the past, and they were pretty affordable to me. Not cheap, but not expensive either.

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                                • 19 Oct 2024

                                FreezeGame, 19 Oct 2024TSMC will be held accountable if true. Zero tolerance for d... more"TSMC will be held accountable if true. Zero tolerance for disobedience."

                                That's the stupidest comment here. What's the US going to do? Ban Apple, Qualcomm, AMD and Nvidia from getting their chips made by TSMC? Those companies will suffer far worse than TSMC.

                                  Anonymous, 18 Oct 2024If China engages in protectionism for pretty much every Chi... moreIts not protectionism. Its privacy maintenance.

                                  Protectionism means to protect domestic industry from foreign competition, while China has allowed various companies and corporations to open shop in China.
                                  Are you not aware of Honda, Apple, etc working in China?

                                  To Prove my point, China & many other countries had a problem with Microsoft when... they launched Windows 10.

                                  I wish my country India was powerful enough to protect us from this US invasion of privacy. They target one and all, irrespective of whether you have anything to do with USA or not.

                                    TSMC will be held accountable if true. Zero tolerance for disobedience.

                                    There exists a notable degree of disrespectful anti-American sentiment expressed by numerous individuals in the comment sections here on GSMArena. The moderators seem to permit such discourse, which serves as a clear indicator of the type of environment this platform aims to nurture. One fact remains indisputable: the leaders of the nations you inhabit quiver at the prospect of a visit from the United States. We do not engage in trivial matters. While some may be led to believe otherwise by figures such as Biden and Kamala, it is essential to recognize that the United States will ensure compliance from any nation when deemed necessary. The approach taken can be either courteous or confrontational; we remain indifferent to which path is chosen. When the United States opts to enter negotiations with your respective countries, consider it a privilege. We could easily impose the regulations we deem appropriate, and there would be little recourse available to oppose it. Thus, it is prudent to appreciate that we are a benevolent and understanding nation that exercises restraint while demonstrating empathy. The alternative outcome would be markedly different.

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                                      • 19 Oct 2024

                                      Carol-, 19 Oct 2024What do you expect to happen? Till date they never had one ... moreNope, you are wrong. Huawei phones was back then (before sanctions) and even now expensive. You are not telling me truth.

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                                        Anonymous, 19 Oct 2024How are Huawei supplying their new design 9006 from old sto... moreNo one has said it's a new design. Stop lying.

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