ARM is dropping Qualcomm’s chip design license

23 October 2024
The current situation traces its roots to a legal dispute between the two firms from 2022.

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Anonymous, 23 Oct 2024Qualcomm use their knowledge on ARM's IP to create the... moreSnapdragon have the license to make custom cores. The company they purchased had it too.
Arm is just being extremely greedy.
I don't understand how is this not Anti competitive? Why no one doing anything to Arm now?

    Techgeek91, 23 Oct 2024seems like mediatek bribing arm for this step.....I was doubting Apple. Because they were ex employees and Apple doesn't want Snapdragon to catch up maybe.

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      • Khdhkyilsutgj
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      • 23 Oct 2024

      Look! Companies that hold patents always want to squeeze and want more profit from consumers who use their patents.ARM's foundation has already shown signs of their greed and ego for fear of their technology being outclassed by their consumers.If the ARM case continues to drag on and there is no resolution, one day you will go bankrupt and everything will be dominated by risc-v which is more open source for risc instruction set. IF ARM ACT WORSE AND EVEN WORSE I HOPE THEY WILL GET BAD KARMA AND LOSE THEIR DOMINANCE.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 23 Oct 2024

        LoL 😂😂 how ironically 🙄

          Anonymous, 23 Oct 2024Qualcomm use their knowledge on ARM's IP to create the... moreThat's a lose-lose situation for both as Qualcomm is ARM's biggest customer....This means, there could possibly be a delay or even a halt in the development of new Snapdragon chips, affecting the supply chain for many Android phone manufacturers that depend on Qualcomm's processors for their devices. This could lead to delayed device releases, or even a price hike for Android phones. But on the flip side, this may turn out to be good news for MediaTek, since the delays may lead to OEMs looking for alternative chipmakers for their smartphones

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            • 23 Oct 2024

            Techgeek91, 23 Oct 2024seems like mediatek bribing arm for this step.....Qualcomm use their knowledge on ARM's IP to create their own CPU and believe that's totally fine. On the other hands ARM believe Qualcomm need to pay.

            Then, they're disagree....
            And then the drama begin
            And will be settled in court or out of court with undisclosed amount of money

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              • 23 Oct 2024

              Rosso, 23 Oct 2024Can't figure out if this is about the instruction set ... moreI think it's about instruction set.

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                • Anonymous
                • Iby
                • 23 Oct 2024

                No way Qualcomm actually loses their licenses. Either Qualcomm wins in court, or they'll negotiate a new deal with ARM.

                  seems like mediatek bribing arm for this step.....

                    Rosso, 23 Oct 2024Can't figure out if this is about the instruction set ... moreGood question, and no it isn't clear from the article. I remember that whilst originally 'Kryo' cores were fully in house Qualcomm designs, later iterations of Kryo were semi custom modifications of Cortex cores built using the BOC (Built on Cortex) licence Qualcomm signed with Arm. Maybe this is a hangover from some of the terms and conditions in that licence agreement 🤔

                    All I know is it would be in the interests of both parties to get this one straightened out lickety-split 🤷‍♂️

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                      • Anonymous
                      • kKa
                      • 23 Oct 2024

                      Qualcomm probably have a CPU architecture hidden somewhere.

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                        • 23 Oct 2024

                        and Linux kernel developers are tired of all the intel amd x86 hardware bugs, the next gen hw will probably be the best yet

                          Qualcomm will certainly work it out for now... But this is a pretty big boost for RISC-V.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • CbA
                            • 23 Oct 2024

                            Both company's future is at stake but if arm goes with this decision, more damage will be to arm
                            1) They will lose on the major customer
                            2) more and more companies will try to get away from arm
                            Looks like arm is on self destruction mode.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • 6wx
                              • 23 Oct 2024

                              Snapdragon 8 Nightmare

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                                Can't figure out if this is about the instruction set itself or architecture only

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                                  IpsDisplay, 23 Oct 2024Qualcomm should have kept using arm and then secretly devel... moreGood luck developing new instruction set, intel tried and failed, arm hasn't gotten to massively popular with desktops either despite x86s age.

                                  Even if successful and good, nobody would use it, or at least not in big enough capacity to make an impact.

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                                    Anonymous, 23 Oct 2024Purchasing nuvia was clear sign of wish to have own design.... moreI think as a plural SOC being more complicated then what a human brain can comprehend I.e.2GB(or 4GB max) is generated by automated softwares as such a new artitecture would be impossible to conceive. But thats just an opinion.

                                      "if you can't beat em, sue em" - ARM, likely lol

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                                        IpsDisplay, 23 Oct 2024Qualcomm should have kept using arm and then secretly devel... morePurchasing nuvia was clear sign of wish to have own design.
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