Apple iPhone 18 Pro's main camera to have variable aperture

09 November 2024
At least one of the iPhone 17 models next year will also sport a variable aperture camera.

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Bravosixgoingdark, 10 Nov 2024Sony's been sleeping on its phone line for the past 6-... moreSony should release its phones much sooner, provide at least 7 years of software support, and upgrade its camera setup. The prices should be much lower. Sony acts as if it were a market leader when it is almost irrelevant. If you think about it, you may wonder what Sony wants to do. It's as if Sony didn't think at all.

    rRadD, 10 Nov 2024LOL. I'm talking about Samsung as a company overall. t... moresays the guy who loves Apple, LOL

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      my comment was removed by the moderator???

      anyway... I won't mention here the one who do the camera phone's ranking.. BUT

      16ProMax is 4th in Global Ranking, while s24Ultra is 27th
      Overall score is 157 VS 144

      end of day, it's our personal preference that matter. Hate me by liking iPhone.. it's not my problem. LOL

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        jiyen235, 10 Nov 2024idk where you're getting that from but you're som... moreLOL. I'm talking about Samsung as a company overall. they are copycat. Everyone in the tech world knows that. It's in the book, it's in the internet. they have a history of copying everyone, not just phones, not just TVs, not just watches.. but hey, you're wrong in saying that I am wrong. There are tons of references about Sammy being a copycat company.

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          Huawei had a main camera with variable aperture in the Mate 50 Pro. Apple is years too late.

            rRadD, 10 Nov 2024it's not just phone, but other electronics.. samsung h... moreidk where you're getting that from but you're somewhat wrong. Again, Samsung wasn't "horrible" until 2-4 years ago. Their mobile division is particularly bad.

            Apart from watches, TWS headphones and phones, they're actually quite great. Look at the TV market, they make awesome TVs and perhaps the best value OLED TV in the S90 series

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              jiyen235, 10 Nov 2024no, they've only been like this for the past few years... moreit's not just phone, but other electronics.. samsung has been copying everyone... it's all over the internet anyway. LOL

                Batteri Voltas, 09 Nov 2024Be prepared to get a thick phone then, or a tiny sensor. F... moreXiaomi's mix fold 4 is 4.6mm, I don't know the size of the camera bump but let's say 4mm, then the total thickness is the same as pixel 9, or in other words it could be flush with the pixel 9. The s23 is 7.6mm and camera bump is 1.4mm so it would only be half a mm thicker than pixel 9 if flush. If the main camera isn't the thickest camera then it could even be thinner. A slightly thicker small phone is ok anyway since it's still lighter and easier to hold and you need a thicker battery. Now we are getting thin phones in the next year there will be new techniques for making phones thinner, eg thinner screens. I hope someone uses the same new components instead to make a phone that's small, about 8.5mm thick, and with a flush back.

                  Batteri Voltas, 10 Nov 2024I'm not painting them as a hero, I was stating a fact.... morewhat's the tech timeline tho? you didn't answer that question. You're avoiding it again. I asked you what other things did everyone else "copy"?

                  I used to love Samsung to bits but don't act like Samsung was the first or best at everything and everyone else copied them or something. The only fact you stated was that they introduced a variable aperture and everyone else implemented it, they didn't just copy it, they innovated and made it better. Where's the "copy"?

                  You specifically painted techbros in a bad light saying that they only criticize samsung and didn't care when they removed it. You're acting like Xiaomi and others DIDN'T innovate on that variable aperture trend and got praise.

                  The Apple part is only true for normies and what's wrong with calling out Samsung for only doing something good again cus Apple did it?

                  You're either stupid or malicious. Everyone but Samsung is painted negatively.

                    rRadD, 10 Nov 2024I totally agree!!!! It's actually written in one of th... moreno, they've only been like this for the past few years. they were fine before, or at least not as bad.

                      Bravosixgoingdark, 10 Nov 2024Sony's been sleeping on its phone line for the past 6-... moreSaid friend of mine is rocking a 1 IV, I get that it has the furnace 8G1 in it, but I was very pleased with it when I used it

                      they were however considered a big player when they marketed properly and were somewhat competitive with the old Z Series before they got bitten by the SD810 curse and started slowly losing the market, just like HTC did.

                      They now have a phone with all the potential to be competitive again, but they're sleeping on it, to the point that a lot of people who aren't into tech will immediately say "wait, Sony is still making phones?"

                      And then there's them not bothering with giving us a follow-up to the Pro-I...

                        jiyen235, 10 Nov 2024yeah and that's cus the S20 Ultra had bigger problems ... moreI'm not painting them as a hero, I was stating a fact. They introduced it first, and the comment was mostly humorous about a lot of features they introduced a bit too early to be relevant, ending up being branded a gimmick, and giving up on them just before they actually found a use case and caught on.

                        People over here will just JUMP at someone who says anything remotely positive about Samsung in this website like they're on a mission.

                        And yes, the S20 Ultra was a pile of garbage, but no worse than the vanilla S20 whose back panel came off by itself with the amount of overheating. Back then I saw people who would buy S and Note phones literally buying the FE for the sake of having a snapdragon chip.

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                          The Android Freak, 09 Nov 2024Not happening for another three years. 300MP and 444MP phon... moreand we need 300 or 444MP because?

                            Seeing this news of a leak, hopefully the variable aperture of Xperia Pro-I returns to Xperia 1 series in the future.

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                              jiyen235, 10 Nov 2024yeah and that's cus the S20 Ultra had bigger problems ... moreI totally agree!!!! It's actually written in one of the books we used in MBA.. Samsung always copy others.. and it's a fact.. now I remember why I don't like Samsung... "copycat" is the right word. Thanks for your comment. LOL

                                Anonymous, 10 Nov 2024No gta 6 is arriving in 2025 while this iPhone feature w... morethis article says the iPhone 17 series might get one too, which is going to be released in 2025 just like GTA, i have a feeling GTA will come out later than the iPhones lol

                                  Batteri Voltas, 09 Nov 2024Anyone that defends anything coming from Samsung and isn�... moreyeah and that's cus the S20 Ultra had bigger problems lol like autofocusing and inconsistent processing.

                                  Also, why SHOULD have people REALLY cared about the old one? The aperture went from f/1.5 to 1/2.4 on a tiny 1/2.55" sensor. It actually didn't lead to basically any changes. I'm not bashing Samsung, I think it was great that they tried something so niche back then. My point is they tried this and then stopped doing it when their phones ACTUALLY needed the variable aperture, starting from the massive (by 2020 standards) 1/1.3" f/1.8 main cam they had back then.

                                  They introduced a nice feature and then removed it when it was actually going to be usable. They're then going to bring it back after Apple do it so that they don't stay behind Apple. People rave about Xiaomi and Huawei's variable aperture because it actually brings results and it's far more difficult to have a continuous variable aperture, than a one stop switch AND these guys are doing it on far larger sensors. So you get more granular control on the aperture on a large sensor.

                                  Samsung is indeed a copycat nowadays and only does stuff AFTER Apple does it. They used to be faster but now they're not.

                                  I ask you, what techbros thought these features made the phone "unnecessarily expensive"? And what other innovations did samsung bring and then take away like this that Apple is doing now and/or other brands are "copying"? I called you a Samsung fanboy because you're painting Samsung as some sort of a hero whilst they're anything but.

                                    Aierlan, 10 Nov 2024Xiaomi seems to be dropping the variable aperture. Gone fro... moredamn that sounds so sad.

                                    This is a really cool feature, especially on 1 inchers. I dunno why manufacturers are shying away from this. I just wish they put it in, no need for software optimizations for the other apertures just use the widest one and let us use the other ones if we want to.

                                      The Android Freak, 09 Nov 2024Not happening for another three years. 300MP and 444MP phon... morewe need 9000 mp cameras with 0.00001 micron pixels

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                                        Darth Caesium, 09 Nov 2024Ehh, you're not really wrong, but at the same time, th... moremy x100 ultra with 1 inch main sensor and big zoom sensor has plenty of natural bokeh

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