Sony reaches 20 billion image sensors sold, doubles shipments in five years
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- 20 Dec 2024
jiyen235, 20 Dec 2024they were going in the right direction with the GN2, they h... moreThere was no client for gn2, since xiaomi went back to sony.
Sammy Semicon is not going to keep making products nobody is buying.
HP2 is most advanced they have.
Problem is people responsible for galaxy S Ultra think that bright shadows, warm colours, sharpening are what photography has to be.
Even with apsc cmos, photos would still remain garbage.
It is not hardware limitations. If you edit dng taken by 1/2" sensor, it will look better than jpeg out of 1". Phone makers ruin jpeg with enhancements.
You will never look at photo taken by photocamera ( even one from 2005) and say it looks like oil painting
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- 20 Dec 2024
Bravosixgoingdark, 20 Dec 2024Their after megapixel bragging rights more than anything, l... moreThis is such a both dejavu and tables have turned situations where Sony used to be the one brags about megapixel races in 2010s especially during Xperia Z series was still around and now Samsung is the one who done it today albeit different purposes, while Sony hasn't done any camera sensor above 64MP since the IMX686 AFAIK (max Sony had done currently is 52MP LYT-800 or IMX888 of Xperia 1 V/VI If I'm not wrong and even that's being cropped into 48 MP in both 1 V/1 VI, not the full 52MP, a resemblance to Xperia Z5's 25MP IMX300 crop sensor situation again).
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- 20 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 20 Dec 2024It's more 8 mp ultrawide sensor that's coming fro... moreIt's unfortunate that IMX355 is still in utilisation if not production until now. Hopefully there is an effort by Sony Semiconductor to move those companies that deal with Sony's B2B to axed using IMX355 sensor considering main sensors of many camera is already great and now the time to tricked down to the useful auxiliary sensors like telephotos and ultrawides.
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- 20 Dec 2024
jiyen235, 20 Dec 2024imagine if Panasonic or others jumped into the phone sensor... morePanasonic that use exmor on own cameras? 🤣
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- 20 Dec 2024
rizki1, 20 Dec 2024while their phone doesn't even sell 1 million units pe... moreSales pass 1 million. Almost 2.
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Coor, 20 Dec 2024So why they arent no 1 camera in smartphones ? Nice pics in... moreYou can look at BASF, a German company based in Ludwigshafen am Rhein, Rheinland-Pfalz. AFAIK, I don't remember they had any B2C product since 2000 but they remain the biggest chemical producer in the world until now despite struggling lately, as this is due to their B2B business and some advantages that B2B had that B2C doesn't. Their closest rivals, Sinopec at 2nd place from China, is quite far behind compared to BASF as far I already checked . Sony could have imitate that business modelling for their camera sensor-related division.
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rizki1, 20 Dec 2024while their phone doesn't even sell 1 million units pe... moreWell their business model, at least for the main focuses are camera sensor and camera imaging has shifted from focusing B2C (business-to-consumer) to B2B (business-to-business), so selling more camera sensor and bulk purchase of their Sony Alpha camera to businesses like Associated Press at this point is more profitable than had to catch Xperia further with the competition but drag them down further. BASF-type business model that Sony taken for camera sensor is a proven to be long-term better results. I don't blame them.
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- 20 Dec 2024
And still have one of the worst photo quality on their own phones...well done Sony, well done!
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- 20 Dec 2024
I bought my phone just because it has a Sony sensor.
IMX890
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- 20 Dec 2024
So why they arent no 1 camera in smartphones ? Nice pics in good light but...always behind Samsung, Apple, Vivo, even Pixel atm.
Why they not make new "5" series, why is so hard to buy their phones in many countries ?
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- 20 Dec 2024
YoloBS, 20 Dec 2024How many of those are " 2mp micro camera sensors " It's more 8 mp ultrawide sensor that's coming from them(imx355)
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- 20 Dec 2024
Bravosixgoingdark, 20 Dec 2024Their after megapixel bragging rights more than anything, l... morethey were going in the right direction with the GN2, they had the largest sensor in the market and it was actually capable of taking perhaps the best shots, as shown by the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra..... but they decided to ditch that in favor of the HP2 and the 200 MP tag.... FOR THE MAIN CAM. And it doesn't even have better 2x cropping compared to the competition either lmao so it's all for nothing.
However, credit where credit is due, the megapixel war actually has had a really good result come out of it. The HP9 is a masterpiece, a proper upgrade over the already exceptional OV64B. Size isn't the only thing good about these sensors, they were MADE with cropping in mind, for example take a look at the Oppo Find X6 pro's 3x, even though it's a HUGE sensor and far larger than the OV64B and stuff, the cropping isn't especially great.
And honestly tho, Sony themselves don't use their best sensors so i can't really blame Samsung too much for not doing the same either, they both suck despite making or having the ability of making great sensors lol
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- 20 Dec 2024
"four-camera devices are common across the price spectrum"
More like 2mp depth and macro pseudosensors are common across the low-price spectrum.
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Anonymous, 20 Dec 2024Samsung needs to UP their game. The HP2, a 1/1.3" sens... moreTheir after megapixel bragging rights more than anything, like that even matters when it's being binned into a 12mpx resolution anyway it's just pure marketing. The sony 48 and 50mpx sensors it's competing with are far ahead
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- 20 Dec 2024
YoloBS, 20 Dec 2024How many of those are " 2mp micro camera sensors " those are unlikely to be from Sony
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- 20 Dec 2024
jiyen235, 20 Dec 2024imagine if Panasonic or others jumped into the phone sensor... morepanasonic buys their camera sensors from sony they don't make them themselves
same for nikon and fujifilm
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- 20 Dec 2024
YoloBS, 20 Dec 2024How many of those are " 2mp micro camera sensors " Sony doesn't sell those. It's mostly Galaxy core and OmniVision.
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- 20 Dec 2024
Samsung needs to UP their game. The HP2, a 1/1.3" sensor performs worse than the LYT-700, with crushed shadows and blown out highlights.
Samsung is far behind.
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- 20 Dec 2024
Samsung needs to up their game.
The HP2 performs worse than the LYT-700. Shameful.
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- 20 Dec 2024
Maybe unrelated, but I need to ask.
The ISOCELL HP2 from Samsung has 0.6micronpixels, and 16 of them are grouped to form a 2.4micronpixel image.
Yet, the HP2 performs worse than the LYT-700, not to even mention the LYT-800 of the OnePlus 13. Samsung always has blown out highlights and crushed shadows.
Why isn't Samsung pursuing such excellence, like Sony? Or, is it just as bad as Exynos? I mean, the HP9 is one of the best sensors on the market now. What's wrong with Samsung?