Poco website is now discontinued, all new phones will be on Xiaomi's
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- 8 hours ago
Anonymous, 04 Jan 2025if microsoft spends that much why does windows keep getting... moreSamsung introduced first fast charging standards, they're not chinese.
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- Anonymous
- tPG
- 20 hours ago
Poco has no future if keep using MediaTek chips instead of Qualcomm chips.
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- Anonym
- Lcd
- 05 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 04 Jan 2025if microsoft spends that much why does windows keep getting... more1) Have you ever considered that maybe the changes make Windows is worse for you, but not Microsoft's bottom line?
2) Having your own identity and R&D drive *cannot* make you blind to whatever everyone is making. At the end of the day, you can still see Apple's DNA in their products + the best everyone else is doing. Can you say that about many Chinese brands?
3) QC already existed way before those Chinese brands entered that space, in fact that name is even a trademark by Qualcomm, and the efforts you are referring to started as a way to not pay royalties to Qualcomm. However, there were quite a few Chinese companies spearheading the GaN charger revolution and driving that R&D. That is one of the very few examples where most R&D was actually on their side.
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- Anonymous
- HCH
- 04 Jan 2025
there was a poco website??
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- Anonymous
- gwy
- 04 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2025I'm sorry but what you wrote is nonsense that's v... moreif microsoft spends that much why does windows keep getting worse? and why does apple copy features from android phones? r and d expenditure does not tell the full story, chinese phones were the first to introduce fast charging so you are wrong
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2025BYD have more R&D than Apple + Qualcomm+ intel combined... moreI'm sorry but what you wrote is nonsense that's very easy to fact check. Chinese industrial culture when it comes to private companies is to minimize R&D and that's why they aren't leaders in new technology but they are leaders in making existing products great and affordable. Nothing wrong with that, they are masters of scale.
BYD is the private company with the biggest R&D in China as they spend 5.5 billion usd on it. Contrary to that Apple spends close to six times more or 30 billion usd on R&D. Intel spends 16 billion usd and Qualcomm spends 9 billion usd on R&D. Sony spends 5 billon usd on R&D, Samsung spends 18 billion, Microsoft spends 30 billion and Amazon spends whopping 85 billion.
Now lets talk about cars, Honda spends 6.5 billion, Toyota spends 7.5 billion, Ford 8.2 billon, GM 10 billion, VW 20 billion. When it comes to BEV manufacturers Tesla spends 4.3 billion and Lucid close to 1 billion. So, in that regard BYD is the biggest spender when it comes to BEV manufacturers but not even close when it comes to established manufacturers or big tech.
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- bukeyolacan
- J8A
- 03 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2025BYD have more R&D than Apple + Qualcomm+ intel combined... moreApple only buys patents from other companies (LG for rollable display) etc. then announce it as a new innovation as they made and people buys it
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- Anonymous
- XVE
- 03 Jan 2025
DomtheCuber, 02 Jan 2025Xiaomi’s design team isn’t more productive, they’re just mo... moreBYD have more R&D than Apple + Qualcomm+ intel combined
BYD is a car company
Xiaomi as tech company have even more R&D than BYD
And btw, Apple only have less than 50 5G patent
Meanwhile, Huawei..... Have more than 5000 5G patent
The thing is, you think small. China is big
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- MarkusLeto
- raQ
- 03 Jan 2025
They need to streamline their product lines and give their new ones a unique bloodline, not just rebrands of Xiaomi entry/midrangers.
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- SuperSpruce
- IbL
- 02 Jan 2025
DomtheCuber, 02 Jan 2025Xiaomi’s design team isn’t more productive, they’re just mo... moreI'm sure that Xiaomi doesn't have a single design team. I'd bet it has a team for each "line" of products. Maybe one for the number series, one for the Redmi note series, another for the Redmi series, and another for the more budget phones. Still, there's probably a lot of exceptions and crossover involved.
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- Xiaomi9635
- 0C2
- 02 Jan 2025
Xiaomi seller here. It's funny, because we also hide the poco phones in the store. Some stores have prices visible, while our doesn't. If someone asks, yes, we have them, or when someone buys from a website then we ship them, but it's very rare.
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- Darth Caesium
- dUQ
- 02 Jan 2025
astolfo, 02 Jan 2025Sorry but this is just a made-up excuse. Huawei brought not... moreTo be fair, Huawei's design language has been inconsistent, but they brought so much to the table at a time when barriers to entry were low that it didn't matter. Today, design language is very important because there's much higher barriers to entry in the market. As a manufacturer, you have to make your phones do the marketing for you when people walk with them down the street in order to get recognised. I do think a unified design language would've improved Huawei's sales, it's just that they didn't need it back then because the context behind the market back then was different to what it is today.
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- astolfo
- GBh
- 02 Jan 2025
Darth Caesium, 02 Jan 2025I literally want more competition in the West through the p... moreSorry but this is just a made-up excuse. Huawei brought nothing new to the table outside of their flagships, and two gens at that.
Go look at their Y series from 2018-2019 and tell me where is that "revolutionary" design language? And in the same time period, the A series from Samsung were doing great and iPhone just did the change to the X design language in their lineup.
My country was filled to the brink with those Y series devices so much so you couldnt even tell one model from another. I was glad when they went down and other players came in to compete.
Huawei got out and that gave a breathing room to Motorola, Xiaomi, and allowed Oppo to get inside the market.
I literally dont miss them at all, the market is better everywhere without them.
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- Anonymous
- uBS
- 02 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2025Now the question is.... If Poco is now is straight out anot... morePoco initially had their own phone. The Poco F1 was for the Indian market. Then they just had renamed redmis. Sad story.
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- DomtheCuber
- raN
- 02 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2025Maybe because you're based in a country where everythi... moreXiaomi’s design team isn’t more productive, they’re just more overworked. Xiaomi released over 40 phones last year, meaning that the designers would have to design one phone every 9 days. And that’s if they don’t get any days off (and people should be getting days off). These designers have to make a whole entire phone in such a short time frame, and that means that they don’t have the time or energy to express any creativity in their designs. By contrast, a design team making 10 phones a year would have 20 days to make each phone even if they worked 200 days a year. I’d rather have 10 phones designed by people who are paid more to work less and have more time to express their creativity rather than 40 phones made by people who are just trying to get by and make unrealistic deadlines.
And the same goes for most other departments. Xiaomi can make more money by not overloading their employees with the task of designing, producing, assembling, and coding for 40+ phones a year.
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- Anonymous
- yVI
- 02 Jan 2025
All junk under one brand , never buy their trash ever again.
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- Gfs
- 02 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2025Now the question is.... If Poco is now is straight out anot... moreI would expect you keep the Poco nameplate because countries like India require manufacturer's to produce a percentage of product inside the country or they can't be sold there
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- Darth Caesium
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- 02 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2025Maybe because you're based in a country where everythi... moreI literally want more competition in the West through the presence of more Chinese brands. I would literally buy a Vivo phone if I could buy one from a carrier in the UK, so I don't know what you're trying to achieve by pulling a false equivalency fallacy on me. There's a reason other than governments and people getting (mostly) wrongfully scared about national security on Chinese phones, and it's because they employ bad tactics in certain areas like their rebadged phone spam. I want another Huawei, without said company getting banned, because I want an actually competitive and exciting market that prices things fairly. The phone market in the West has been stagnant since Huawei got banned by the US government, and I absolutely hate it.