Check out the vivo X200 Ultra’s camera sensors from up close
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Aierlan, 21 Mar 2025Xiaomi 15 ultra does not have a 100mm camera though. It... moreThis would be great if true, but I haven’t seen this info anywhere. Could you share where you got it?
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vik457, 21 Mar 2025There is one thing you forgot in lens diameter calculation:... moreThis is true, but if all three phones use the same 1/1.4-inch sensor, then the crop is the same.
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JURE 75, 21 Mar 2025Based on leaks, my calculations show that it will capture o... moreThere is one thing you forgot in lens diameter calculation: crop factor.
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JURE 75, 21 Mar 2025Based on leaks, my calculations show that it will capture o... moreXiaomi 15 ultra does not have a 100mm camera though. It's around 94/95mm which changes your conclusion.
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DarlingYext, 21 Mar 2025That ultrawide is huge and so is the telephoto, but the mai... moreProbably space constraints since I see the packaging is pretty tight. Also this should allow for a pretty seamless and balanced setup, especially for the Imaging engineers at Vivo since working with just two sensors (LYT-818 and HP9) should make things easier and more streamlined for their computational photography.
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Based on leaks, my calculations show that it will capture only 19% more light than the X100 Ultra, not twice as much -38% (f/2.7 vs. f/2.27). They also claimed it would be the brightest periscope camera, but Xiaomi took that title with the 15 Ultra and its 100mm f/2.6 lens. If they want to make the lens 38% brighter, they would need an f/1.96 aperture!
Lens diameter:
Vivo X200 Ultra: 85mm / f/2.27 = 37.4mm
Vivo X100 Ultra: 85mm / f/2.7 = 31.5mm
Xiaomi 15 Ultra: 100mm / f/2.6 = 38.5mm
Additionally, the camera bump will be quite large because the 35mm lens should be 9.7mm away from the camera sensor. When adding the thickness of the display, camera sensor, and back glass, the total thickness will exceed 12mm.
On the other hand, for those who can't calculate and think a 1/1.28-inch sensor is a downgrade, the camera bump would be over 15mm thick with a 1-inch sensor, as the lens would need to be 12.8mm away from the sensor
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Anonymous, 21 Mar 2025" I am going to give free pass because vivo is 🇨🇳, if ... moreGuys, have all of you who are talking so badly about the LYT-818 sensor and the camera performance of the vivo X200 Ultra this year totally lost your minds? We need to talk about it.
This was never a downgrade, quite the opposite! It's actually the most powerful cameraphone ever created and I'll make you see that, if you're all intellectually honest enough to understand the facts.
Let's get to the controversial issue of the choice of sensor. The LYT-818 is indeed slightly inferior to the LYT-900 in terms of raw light capture, however, as a photographer, I can assure you that it is only inferior in one final aspect after post-processing: the photo will have a slightly less organic texture and this will only be truly noticeable at 2X cropping (2 x 2 OCL) — and I've seen the most sober comparisons in this respect. For the rest, this sensor is practically the same strength and even demonstrably superior in certain respects: it's the only sensor with the new HDR technology of triple conversion gain and this precisely expands the dynamic range to a point that borders on perfection, while promoting a very good real-time HDR preview and more solid colors, as well as avoiding ghosting artifacts (by having this triple gain in a single exposure), less noise and a faster shooting capability; in addition, Sony itself has already said that this CMOS has the best noise control technology in the industry currently and this is a matter of technical analysis with professional measurements. It's pure science. We are talking about a powerful new sensor.
Do you really think that vivo would take a step backwards? Think about it: they're going to use the capacity of two LYT-818 sensors working at the same time to get results that, at the end of the day, will surpass the capacity of a single LYT-900 as the main cam and an ultrawide powered by an average JN5. This is one of Vivo's great tricks. And have you ever wondered how smooth the lens transitions will be during video recording, the color science and everything else?
It's extremely difficult to imagine a camera with a 35mm focal length (ideal for professional photographers) with such a large sensor on a phone. There are obvious physical barriers. This is already a victory. Look at the Nubia example and ask yourself if they have achieved this feat before. So it's even more difficult to achieve this balance than simply choosing LYT-900 as the main sensor
Additionally, the fact that we'll have the excellence of the LYT-818 - which has proven to be better than the IMX 989 in many situations - in an ultrawide cam is nothing less than an extraordinary milestone in the history of mobile photography. Would you rather have a disposable ultrawide forever? Vivo has broken this barrier, when it would have taken other manufacturers a long time to dare to do so.
What's more, with CIPA 5.0 professional stabilization certification on ALL CAMERAS, upgraded Zeiss lens coating and two image processing chips working togheter and a new bright lens for the telephoto cam!
That's why, for example, although Xiaomi's telephoto cam uses the same HP4 sensor as Samsung's with a 4.3x optical zoom, it is still slightly inferior to vivo X200 Pro in terms of exposure, clarity, noise and texture in a scenario where the 10x “hybrid” zoom or less is compared. Especially in night shots. The stabilization is superior, as is the Zeiss lens treatment. FCD100 is an extremely low dispersion optical glass.
How do you think the camera bump will look like if they put a 1-inch sensor plus the other two largers sensors? No way. They are still looking for solutions to this specific issue, while still innovating.
Anyway, it's not all about the size of the sensor, although it is the most important part. The LYT-818 isn't that small, so much so that many manufacturers are still using the Omnivison OV50K in their flagship cameras — and if vivo hasn't opted to use a 1/1.3 OV50K, it's because the LYT-818 is actually better. Use your brains.
Which manufacturer other than vivo is using not one, but now two chips for image enhancement, while most have none? In addition, vivo is working on creating its own sensors and its joint venture with Zeiss is very solid; they jointly have their own advanced research center. They have medium and long-term goals with the Blueprint concept. The algorithms are mature. It's not as if they were joking. vivo is really innovating in the mobile photography realm and this was strongly felt by the other manufacturers with the launch of the vivo X100 Ultra. And we should expect more innovations in the coming years. What about the partnership with Fujifilm?
Even the most prolific Chinese leakster (DCS) has the highest expectations in general — and all tech guys from China.
Wake up. I'm not glorifying vivo, but it's a fact that they're at the forefront — and now, definitely surpassing Apple in all categories, with the current video capability of the upcoming X200 Ultra. You'll all see that. It's not a downgrade, but a very balanced and smart choice.
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Anonymous, 21 Mar 2025" I am going to give free pass because vivo is 🇨🇳, if ... moreBro is onto absolutely nothing!
Keep coping lil bro
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DarlingYext, 21 Mar 2025That ultrawide is huge and so is the telephoto, but the mai... more28 mm instead for main cam and 12 mm for ultrawide
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That ultrawide is huge and so is the telephoto, but the main camera is something I don't understand, I mean it's great, better than most out there, except for their own previous Ultra device. Vivo should've kept on going with a 1 inch type main sensor.
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Where is the sensor
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Kekma, 21 Mar 2025It's huge!(That's what she said)From Reacher season 3 episode 7?
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" I am going to give free pass because vivo is 🇨🇳, if the downgrade was done by Motorola, asus, htc, sony, apple or samsung I would heavily bash. I will also ignore that tech media is going to use digital zoom on 100 ultra ( instead of moving phone closer to subject) to fool people to believe 200 ultra does better because at same FL the 200 pro got humiliated "
Can't wait to see this kind of stuff here 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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It's huge!(That's what she said)