Google Pixel 10 to get an overhauled camera system, 10 Pro Fold sees minor changes
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 04 Apr 20251" = 126mm
1/1.28" = 72mm2
70% smaller
... more"dsg hdr does not improve light intake, it only overlap frames by default"
It widens the dynamic range AND reduces the noise as well (compared to single gain readout), improving the SNR.
It also doesn't overlap frames - The whole point of dual/triple conversion gain HDR is that you can achieve a similar effect to stacking frames *using a single frame only*.
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- Rkm
- FY0
- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2025People are used to 23 - 26mm. 35mm is too narrow for str... moreI would say 23mm is way too wide for street.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2025LYT-818 behind a 35 mm lens is better than LYT-900 paired w... morePeople are used to 23 - 26mm.
35mm is too narrow for street shots.
People like to show part of background.
It is downgrade to save costs
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Apr 2025
Nick Tegrataker, 04 Apr 2025"Sensor worse for photos but better for videos does no... moreDCG, UHCG simply do not matter, because no one among vendors enable them. They are there, the hardware is capable of utilizing them, but they are not used in reality for… reasons? The only phone that has DCG enabled is Xiaomi 14 Ultra and even there its usage is heavily limited. To truly see what DCG brings to the table one needs to unlock the bootloader, get root access, find a module to enable DCG and install MotionCam which supports DCG RAW video recording. For how these are nothing but buzzwords unless someone FINALLY decides to enable DCG and UHCG in software.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2025Sensor worse for photos but better for videos does not exis... moreLYT-818 behind a 35 mm lens is better than LYT-900 paired with a 23 mm one. With equivalent 35 mm focal length it’s 1/1.28” (818) vs 1/1.5” (900). 35 mm is suited much better for all kinds of shots except maybe architecture photography, which is handled by the new ultrawide. HP9 module is going to get a much brighter aperture and the ultrawide is best in class no contest. So what are the downgrades again?
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Apr 2025
Hikari, 03 Apr 2025Google is pulling a samsung by charging premium prices for... moreVery true.
Now Google also joined Samsung and will offer three camera system in the base model.
Only Apple is left with a 2 camera system in base model and also 60Hz display as well which no one is offering.
Don't know who is buying phone with 60Hz display that too at a premium price.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2025Sensor worse for photos but better for videos does not exis... more"Sensor worse for photos but better for videos does not exist"
Not necessarily - A smaller sensor equipped with multiple analogue gain/conversion gain readout could outperform a larger sensor without one when it comes to video recording.
LYT-818 and IMX989 might be comparable when it comes to ISO performance (As the latter's sensor size advantage largely negates the former's technological lead), but LYT-818 is a better sensor for videos because it could utilise its triple conversion gain to capture far wider dynamic range frame-by-frame. Where IMX989 would need to sacrifice highlights to save shadow details in a highly contrasty scene, LYT-818 could capture both of them.
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- 4}u
- 04 Apr 2025
Pixel haven't had top tier camera for years
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- Rkm
- FY0
- 04 Apr 2025
The Underdog, 03 Apr 2025Seems like a stupid move seeing as the Pro already caters f... moreThat's exactly what they are trying to do. Push even those who only want the bigger primary sensor to the pros. It will also enable them to extract more margins from the vanilla unless they reduce the price of the vanilla, which they will never do.
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- Anonymous
- mAW
- 04 Apr 2025
Welp, guess it's time to look for another brand. What a shame - really liked the UI.
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- 04 Apr 2025
Google better use sony sensor for pixel phones
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- 04 Apr 2025
Rosso, 04 Apr 2025In the day and age when even 250 euro midrangers known to c... moreAgreed. So far vanilla Pixels had competitive advantage over their direct competitors (vanilla Iphones and vanilla S-series phones) in terms of main camera lens - 1/1.3" as opposed to 1/1.56". 1/2" would be a severe competitive disadvantage. At the very least, they should have gone with 1/1.56" sensor to ensure competitive parity.
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- Anonymous
- RYg
- 04 Apr 2025
So. Pixel 10:
Midrange CPU, midrange GPU.
Midrange cameras.
$1000
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Apr 2025
Djellal, 04 Apr 2025Yeah like vivo did the same level of downgrade, vivo don�... moreSensor worse for photos but better for videos does not exist.
Stop believing any bs from chinese brands.
Sony semicon does not claim that, but vivo does? 🤣.
Vivo has never been good for videos anyway, just like huawei phones.
Downgrade is downgrade, does not matter who performs.
X100 ultra already had the hp9 periscope.
This move is to decrease costs.
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- Anonymous
- JHk
- 04 Apr 2025
"Slapping a tiny telephoto camera won't be better than digitally cropping 2x or even 3x from a larger primary sensor, especially in low-light conditions."
Simply not true. A 3x crop from a 72mm² sensor would give you only 8mm². So, in good light conditions, the noise performance would be better than a crop. Furthermore, in good light conditions, the resolution is usually not limited by noise, but by the number of pixels. A 3x crop from a 12.5 megapixel sensor only gives you 1.4 megapixel. A 3x crop from a 50 megapixel sensor with a Quad Bayer array only gives you 5.55 megapixel and it would still have the worse Quad Bayer color filter array, which reduces the level of detail (for example due to demosaicing artifacts).
In low light conditions, the effective lens diameter =focal length) f-number is important. This determines how much light per exposure time is captured from an object. Smartphone tele cameras usually have larger effective lens diameters than smartphone main cameras. And even when the effective lens diameter is bad, bright light sources like a lamp wouldn't suffer from noise in low light conditions, so they would still look better with a tele camera thanks to the higher number of pixels per object.
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- Rosso
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- 04 Apr 2025
In the day and age when even 250 euro midrangers known to come with 1/1.56 sensors, Google, no matter the cost cutting, especially with their awful SoCs, have no excuse to go down that far.
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- Anonymous
- 4Cy
- 04 Apr 2025
What a piece of dog crap. Still have 7 Pro which practically looks the same as 9 Pro camera photos. Now the 10 Pro will be identical. Definitely not upgrading here or if I do it will be something else.
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- Djellal
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- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 03 Apr 2025Curious to see if those that defend the downgrade done by v... moreYeah like vivo did the same level of downgrade, vivo don't charge premium for midrange camera
Heck Their midrangers have way better camera hardware
Your comment is way too irrelastic, comparing vivo with google is wild
Vivo sidegraded the main while giving a much better 200mp telephone on the x200p vs x100p, not to mention the lyt818 got way better video capabilities then the imx989 on the x100p
And in the x100 ultra vs x200 ultra, the 1/1.28 35m should be better than a crop from lyt900
The uw is day and night difference improved, the zoom lens is greatly improved from an already great one
Tell me what did google improve here on the 10 pro, yeah ig nothing..
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Apr 2025
Anonymous, 03 Apr 2025For the umpteenth time, it's not a downgrade, son!1" = 126mm
1/1.28" = 72mm2
70% smaller
both are exmor rs . downgrade !!!!
dsg hdr does not improve light intake, it only overlap frames by default
- DarlingYext
- n2a
- 03 Apr 2025
Simply a huge downgrade. From 2 great cameras to 2 mediocre cameras and one basically useless camera.