Nokia 7.2
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- Carol
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- 18 Dec 2019
Subramanian CN, 18 Dec 2019Thank God. Knowingly or unknowingly you've admitted everyth... moreI do not have to admit something that is clear and in plain sight. You do realize those were high end devices that cost more the 600 Euros, right? Just asking as it seems you keep comparing a 290 euros device with a 700 euros (Lumia 950xl) device and it makes no sense. I had lumia 950xl and the build quality was a shame to say the most. Microsoft never respected NOKIA's hardware quality... not that i did not like the device because i did, i actually loved it, but was never near Nokia i have owned in the past. Was quite cheep build, the screen was great tha camera and cpu and internals also, but the case was most probably a 5 euros to build. Going back to HMD, If you want a better display and a better camera, buy nokia 9. Or pay 1000 euros for whatever other device. But this one here, is made for budget, not to be compared with Lumia 950 or 2000 euros iphones..or whatever.
As for the camera, i have already detailed the matter, it seems you still do not get it, further i cant help.
And to end again: For the price the camera is good, the device is good. For others maybe there are other devices that they consider better. I take a look further then a CPU.
Anyway, because you keep bringing camera into matter and screen, have you ever actually hold this device? ever test the camera? I bet you would never know it has an IPS LCD if you wouldn't read about it (as it is the best in class at this price) and also you would have not complain so much about the camera if you would have not listen to all 2 cent reviews and the army of trolls in GSMarena.
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- Subramanian CN
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- 18 Dec 2019
Carol, 17 Dec 2019I do not hate companies, i just do not agree supporting som... moreThank God. Knowingly or unknowingly you've admitted everything HMD has done to Nokia 7.2. The most important point to be noted is that Nokia was in different hands at the time of N8, N9, 1020, 950, etc. At that time the brand Nokia was taken care of properly through Good Quality Control and effective Product Management. Is it not HMD's responsibility to assure that the Zeiss Camera implemented is at least on par with the older generations of Nokia?
Now coming to display, Microsoft (Nokia) 950 xl display is far more superior to Nokia 7.2. There are more older Nokia devices which had great displays over Nokia 7.2. Moreover, if you'd like to experience an excellent IPS display, you may check Asus Zenfone 3 ZE520KL. But, generally the present IPS displays manufactured are not up to the mark. Technologies should help improve quality of products. But, they are after reducing costs by murdering quality.
We can talk of build quality and price, only if other aspects of a mobile does their excellent jobs. For example, one may say " Everything in this mobile is so... good except build quality". But in Nokia 7.2 everything is average (though not bad) except build quality. This word "AVERAGE" makes Nokia fans to say it is a balanced device / good overall device. If the device is really good, consumers wouldn't look into the marginal differences of pricing.
"Why people talk too much about Nokia 7.2?" would be the excellent question to ask. Because, everyone including myself had too much anticipations about it, because, it is an Android One device. It is just the mental agony that makes everyone including myself to speak about it, when it failed to meet the expectations. If a Chinese brand fails, people will just ignore it by saying, " What can you expect more from a Chinese product". But when a Good Brand like Nokia fails, it would become the Headline News. To be honest, I think I am the only one who talks too much about Nokia 7.2. Others have simply ignored it. As I have already said, I talk here to help Nokia, because everyone still believes in Nokia.
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- Carol
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- 17 Dec 2019
Subramanian CN, 16 Dec 2019First of all while appraising Nokia 7.2, why do you take th... moreI do not hate companies, i just do not agree supporting some of them. As for xiaomi, i compared it because it seems that you and everyone bashing Nokia compares one of their copyclones with this Nokia. And of course it puzels me to see people complaing about one small thing, CPU that actually works pretty darn good but do not complain about quality, of a devices screen, its build and so on. Henche the comparison. Balanced means they tried to put as much as possible for the money in the devices, they took a bit from the cpu but labeld a good camera with zeiss. They took a bit from the aluminium and used plastic but installed a great screen (even tough for some an amoled with 720p, in their mind, is better) and so on. Is not the greatest, but is one of the most balanced in this price range as they did not get exteme low on some parts just to go high on others, as xiaomi with their mia3 did. The price for that device is like the price for this one and all you get more is a bit (insignificant bit) better CPU. Well, to each his own.
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- Carol
- mVu
- 17 Dec 2019
Subramanian CN, 16 Dec 2019Well, now I feel that I am beating around the bush. Now to ... moreWell, apparently you first need to know what Lenses are (zeiss, or whoever does lenses still) and what the camera sensor is (manufactured by aptina, omnivision or sony, their are others but let's keep it short). Sensor is the module that takes the pic and team up with the software to get a fairly good one. Lenses are the one that make sure the sensor will not be "blind". Best comparison will be the eyes that see bad are corected with glasses, right? The better the quality of the lens of the glasses are, the better the eye will see, the cleaner the lens are the sharper and more defined the image will be projected on the retina. In camera world their is of course a difference between what i have said, as a sensor will never be as good and powerfull as the eye. But to sum it all up the lenses are not everything, i do not know what sensor HMD uses but am pretty sure at this price, it does not use the best sensor ever made. Add to this the software algorithm HMD seem to have some problems with (apparently they can't do it properly, i agree with that) and you can do more damage to a picture then good. So this might be why you say others do better, even tough, to tell you the truth i do not see where xiaomi does better... as their pictures are nothing to brag about...but your opinion is your opinion. As for to compare 9.2 with lumia 950. Well, that device has a better bigger sensor while lumia 1020 has a huge one. Hope it is more clear for you.
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- Anonymous
- mVu
- 17 Dec 2019
Subramanian CN, 16 Dec 2019Well, now I feel that I am beating around the bush. Now to ... moreWell, apparently you first need to know what Lenses are (zeiss, or whoever does lenses still) and what the camera sensor is (manufactured by aptina, omnivision or sony, their are others but let's keep it short). Sensor is the module that takes the pic and team up with the software to get a fairly good one. Lenses are the one that make sure the sensor will not be "blind". Best comparison will be the eyes that see bad are corected with glasses, right? The better the quality of the lens of the glasses are, the better the eye will see, the cleaner the lens are the sharper and more defined the image will be projected on the retina. In camera world their is of course a difference between what i have said, as a sensor will never be as good and powerfull as the eye. But to sum it all up the lenses are not everything, i do not know what sensor HMD uses but am pretty sure at this price, it does not use the best sensor ever made. Add to this the software algorithm HMD seem to have some problems with (apparently they can't do it properly, i agree with that) and you can do more damage to a picture then good. So this might be why you say others do better, even tough, to tell you the truth i do not see where xiaomi does better... as their pictures are nothing to brag about...but your opinion is your opinion. As for to compare 9.2 with lumia 950. Well, that device has a better bigger sensor while lumia 1020 has a huge one. Hope it is more clear for you.
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- Subramanian CN
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- 17 Dec 2019
Some hidden facts for which I need more information/ clarifications...
We know that Sony manufactures 48mp Camera. But they don't employ it in any of their devices. WHY?
The great leaders of mobiles, Apple and Google-Pixel don't entertain 48 mp camera. WHY?
If there will be a day which dawns with a technology with a 48 bayer - 1 mp camera?
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- 16 Dec 2019
In Latvia you can buy it for €230
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- 16 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Nokia 7.2 is one of the best phone in mid-range price outst... moreThe 'king' was used to be one step ahead.. now its 2 steps behind... I am not impressed with any nokia devices in 2019.. didn't even recommended any nokia devices to anyone.. hopefully.. just Hopefully in 2020 HMD will release some good devices like they did in 2018
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- Subramanian CN
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- 16 Dec 2019
Carol, 15 Dec 2019A good friend tries to understand the motive behind decisio... moreWell, now I feel that I am beating around the bush. Now to hit it straight, comparing 48mp camera of Zeiss-Nokia with 48mp of Sony, reveals that Sony is the clear winner. Obviously Zeiss has lost to Sony in the 48mp category. Hence the Chinese rivals win here since they employ Sony. Looking at the past credentials of Zeiss, this makes me doubt Nokia 7.2 as to whether it really employs Zeiss. Please clarify with your wisdom.
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- Subramanian CN
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- 16 Dec 2019
Carol, 15 Dec 2019A good friend tries to understand the motive behind decisio... moreFirst of all while appraising Nokia 7.2, why do you take the opportunity to blame Xiaomi. You can compare, but need not have to show your hatred towards other brands.
Coming to the point, what is the motive behind HMD's Nokia 7.2.?
What do you mean by a "Balanced Device"?
Who is responsible for the camera reception of Nokia 7.2? HMD or Zeiss? As per your argument and clarification, I think Zeiss has manufactured lenses for Nokia N9 and Microsoft (Nokia) 950. Why the so called quality of Zeiss went down with Nokia 7.2, when it was superior with N9 and 950? To be honest, I don't know who has manufactured lenses for Nokia 7.2. Please do answer as to whether it is Sony or Zeiss.
Who said that I like Xiaomi Mi A3? But, DEFINITELY I'd have purchased Mi A3, if it had the specs of Xiaomi CC9.
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- Subramanian CN
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- 16 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 15 Dec 2019Awesome note. Thats the correct reply from a Nokia fan. No... morePlease explain the so called quality. The word "QUALITY" has no meaning unless or otherwise interpreted properly. To be honest, I don't deny build quality of Nokia 7.2. Moreover, I don't deny the quality of "Android One" which is taken care of by Google.
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- Nibin
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- 16 Dec 2019
Matty86, 11 Dec 2019I love this phone had it a month now and really happy with it. How about the battery life...??!!
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- Anonymous
- nCH
- 16 Dec 2019
Nokia 7.2 is one of the best phone in mid-range price outstanding display hdr 10 even I'm watching a old movie it's enhance the quality to hdr which no one has. even tho it's 660 sd it's giving me stable performance which is fine for that price. no need to run behind numbers on paper like other brands what they offering that price. I'm impressed with nokia they are giving innovative product to the market King is back
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- Anonymous
- nCH
- 16 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 15 Dec 2019Awesome note. Thats the correct reply from a Nokia fan. No... moreYeah right 💯
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- Anonymous
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- 15 Dec 2019
Carol, 15 Dec 2019A good friend tries to understand the motive behind decisio... moreAwesome note. Thats the correct reply from a Nokia fan.
Nokia is meant for quality and not just high specs which these people's(or MI Fan) are demanding for.
For those who are still demanding, Nokia phones are not for you. You are free to buy cheap chinese phones even with their bullshit build quality still you love because you want high specs on low price. Nokia is meant for quality and they are giving it and still they are affordable and not like greedy apple phones.
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- Carol
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- 15 Dec 2019
Subramanian CN, 14 Dec 2019I think you have shared your views to clear the doubt's of ... moreA good friend tries to understand the motive behind decisions. If you are a friend HMD definetly needs to change it's surroundings, no offense, just pin-pocking the reallity.
I am starting with the first mixing it a bit with the rest: it is ok for xiaomi to sell a under-avarage build quality device with screen from leftovers as long as it has a better cpu, but it is not ok for HMD to build a balanced device even if that would take a bit on the cpu side, a almost insignificant bit?
Zeiss: well Zeiss produce lenses for Nokia devices, not sensors. The lens are not for changing sensor capabilities or changing software algorithms. They guarantee that the sensor has the best possible clearer view it can have to take a picture. They also help at filtering light, give more sharpness to the picture or help a lot by contrast. So zeiss is not just the for flashy purpouse it actally guaraties high quality control and high quality see-trough.
The device still remains well balanced. So if you would have been a friend, you would have seen the bigger picture. Yeah, maybe the device should have had no zeiss, no better screen and avarage camera with better cpu and crappy build quality, so the people buy (because CPU), but aren't there already devices in this criteria? Why would HMD do the same? Let's wake a bit up, people claim change but complain when it comes and want the usual avarage.
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- Khan
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- 15 Dec 2019
So slowly this phone earphone quality so bad camera picture quality over sharpness. Worst phone please don't buy this phone
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- Subramanian CN
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- 14 Dec 2019
reversible, 14 Dec 2019I think people are perfectly satisfied with the prospects o... moreI think you have shared your views to clear the doubt's of readers and future prospects of Nokia 7.2. Hence, may I request you to clear something more. Instead of appraising Nokia 7.2, you have indirectly admitted and justified the weaknesses of Nokia 7.2.
1. As you've agreed upon about the prevailing fuss about the chipset used by Nokia 7.2 by comparing it with 665 and 675, may I know is 660 definitely superior to 670 SOC.
2. Since there is a lot more to a mobile device than its build quality, let us focus on the camera front. We everyone know the proficiencies of Zeiss Optics. Is the camera of Nokia 7.2 is on par with Nokia 950, since Nokia 950 too incorporates Zeiss Optics. Moreover, since you've admitted that Nokia 7.2's camera is on par with its Chinese rivals THOUGH NOT SUPERIOR, what does the Zeiss branding actually mean.
3. Since, every Nokia is an Android One device, it (Android One) doesn't build up more on Nokia 7.2.
4. If Xiaomi Mi A3 has lost to Nokia 7.2 because of its 720p display, what would had been the state of Nokia 7.2 if Mi A3 had the specs of Xiaomi CC9.
5 Just because you dislike Samsung One UI, doesn't justify One UI is bad.
6. Everyone knows that the sole Unique Selling Proposition of Nokia devices is its Android One licensing. Hence, this shouldn't become the privilege/factor in defending everything they do. Consumers do have choices like the Mi A3.
To end up gracefully, I'm not a hater of Nokia. To be honest my first 4 mobile devices was Nokia. I've dealt things here to help them with my feedback and suggestions to better serve the society, without which their existence becomes questionable. A good friend is the one who helps to correct the mistakes done. I do Wish Nokia to flourish better than the best.
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- 14 Dec 2019
I think people are perfectly satisfied with the prospects of Nokia 7.2.a lot of fuss has been raised over the use of a so called inferior chipset by 7.2.now this has been proved that SD 660 is better in GPU than SD 665 and it is superior to SD 675 in CPU allowing for a minor improvement in battery life.i think GSm arena showed a little acumen while reviewing Nokia 7.2 giving it ranking of just three.moto g8 plus despite its ordinary plastic build is given ranking of 3.5,when it cannot take a photo with its ultrawide cam (stand-alone).battery charging time of both sets being the same,and chipset being almost similar performance wise,I think Nokia 7.2 's array of cameras a little better due to certified Zeiss optics both in selfie and rear cameras output .anyway here are my findings about Nokia 7.2 after a month of use .1)the build quality of Nokia 7.2 is far better than other smartphones in this price range especially realme 3 pro,Huawei y9 prime 2019,and Moto g8 plus.2)the stock android on Nokia 7.2 is smoother,more fluent and easier to use than color OS and emui and is a little ahead of Motorola stockish version (because gesture support is around the corner for Nokia 7.2 within days to be upgraded to android 10.3)cameras on Nokia 7.2 are at par with the realme 5 pro and g8 plus,redmi note 8 pro,redmi note 8 ,if not superior.4)in design and handset feel redmi note 8/pro,are a little at disadvantage because Nokia oozes a premium Ness which is hard to find on redmis.5)in price to value ratio no other set claims to be rival of Nokia 7.2 other than redmi note 8 pro but miui of redmis is a matter of personal preference,choice and taste and I m partial to pure android as Google intended it to be.xiaomi mi A3 loses on 720p granulated screen,although amoled one and Vivo S1 4gb in our market notwithstanding an amoled screen has a heavy foutouch skin is not for the android purists either .Samsung galaxy a 50 and a50s are a bit costlier ,don't exactly fall in price category of Nokia 7.2,personally I don't like Samsung UI because of its heaviness and ram hogging issues although Samsung is trying to improve it for the last couple of years.4)other companies no doubt are promising updates and upgrades but they don't give the solemn pledge.nokia is providing a guarantee of three years of monthly security updates and two major os upgrades to their line of android one handsets.this ensures keep getting better device and this is praise worthy especially in entry level and lower mid-range.5)battery on Nokia 7.2 is ai assisted and good for one whole day if not two.
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- 13 Dec 2019
Nice looking phone - performance wise i am not satisfied, it has some built-in faults which cannot be fixed.