Nokia 8.3 5G
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 11 May 2020
Carol, 10 May 2020Hey, yeah, they are a good bang for buck, especially the ol... more"I can't say one that is more scandinavian, because they all are, Nokia 8 a typical lumia design with the long camera in the middle, thin and with big bazels, and nokia 9 an
'i dare to be uniqe' design that stand right up there with lumia 1020 or the mighty 808. The sirroco does not quite fall into the nokia design portofolio, a not that Nokia design, but still, holding it in your hands, you kind of know is not a samsung nor a chinese device. It has that something, i don't know what, but all old Nokia devices had it, and the new ones somehow have it to. It is strange but you know it is a Nokia, if that makes any sense."
-- I can very well understand what you are trying to mean. Holding Nokia 7 Plus or Nokia 6.1 in my hand gives a kind of reassuring feel which is hard to omit, a sense of inherent quality and purity in design which is very hard to describe but very easy to identify/ feel even with eyes closed. I believe this is due to their inherent material first led design which is almost non-existent in other brands.
"They all can withstand stress and daily use is pretty much nothing for them. However when it comes to the body, out of them 3, nokia 9 is more on the sensitive side, the 8 is rock solid, sirroco the same, if you ignore the backglass (but keep in mind, i never had sirroco, it is my opinion after testing it a bit). As for performance, nokia 9 beats them, but you don't feal it that much when you upgrade, you will feal it if you go back to the older ones, tough."
-- I also expected the same, Nokia 8 is the toughest as it follows the structural design pattern first pioneered in Nokia 6 (2017) and subsequently used in Nokia 5, 5.1, 6.1, 7 Plus and Nokia 8 throughout 2017 & 2018. These are all billeted aluminum uni-body designs with an internal metal plate bolted to the body. Creates a all metal rectangular slab like hollow structure with phenomenal level of structural integrity and hence these phones will not budge a millimetre. These phones own many most durable phone of the year awards.
When Juho Sarvikas, CPO of Nokia was asked of his favorite Nokia in 2018 he promptly replied it was the Nokia 7 Plus and not the 8 Sirocco. Mine is also the same as I believe it is the epitome of this design. As for 8 Sirocco, Nokia wanted to attain a 2 mm side, hence steel was used instead of aluminium as the back will be glass. The most unique feature about 8 Sirocco internal design is the 2 mm thick steel plate is a structural element and runs throughout the body as the load bearing structure making this phone maybe the toughest dual glass sandwich phone ever made. However glass backs will shatter easily as glass is not as resilient as metal. According to Juho it will take the weight of three grown men, before the 8 Sirroco will break. All these phones were made by Foxconn.
The Nokia 9 is more of a traditional design, like all other glass sandwich phones out there just like recent Nokia 8.3. Performance wise sure the Nokia 9 is the king with the latest Snapdragon processor under the hood. Are the Nokia 9 made by Foxconn?
"Tricky question, out of all Nokia releases, the most complete one in my opinion, would be nokia 7.2. It has a great camera, good performance, good battery, great display, Headphones jack, card slot (one has to use high speed cards, the newer batches of sd mmc's) and premium design at a quite lower price. It was bashed by a lot of wannabe reviewers because of the cpu, but in reality it is actually a great all- rounder that brings a lot of quality and good support in under 300 euros world."
-- It's no doubt Nokia 7.2 is a good design, but it was launched at very high prices in our country and still the price is on the higher side. The phone sure looks premium but the plastic body does not interest me a lot as the older Nokia's. You see specifications alone cannot buy me. But yeah Nokia's are good all-rounders for sure. Just before the onset of the pandemic in March, 2020 the Nokia 8 Sirocco was available in India for 250 euros. I thought about it but instead vouched for a LG V30+ at 145 euros brand new. The V30+ was selling for 740 euros two years back, so a great deal and bought it in a heartbeat.
"I find that all of them i used or tested (configured) had almost the same quality when using headphones, never spotted a huge difference. As for the Speaker i really do not have an answer, as for me, all phones have a sound that i do not really appreciate, so i never listened to music and probably will never do it in the future, on the phones speakers. I like base and guitars, so for me anything with lower quallity then JBL extreme, is not something my ears would appreciate."
-- Does using the audio dongle on Nokia 9 bothers you? It sure bothers me a lot. I cannot find a reason why Nokia ditched the ever so convenient audio jack on Nokia 9. The inbuilt speaker like you said is not so important for me also but does denote how loud the ringtone will sound. I hope they are loud enough. What are your thoughts on a 250 euros Nokia 8 Sirroco? If available should I get it? And is it a value for money at that price as of today?
"As i do not own the device, i cannot tell you very much about it. It is a really nice designed device and feals premium. As from my niece perspecrive (she ownes it for more then a year now, almost two i think) The nokia 7.1 is the only device she did not change after a year, so she is pretty much satisfied with it, it also has no charging issues, as i have heard manny complained. If you want a great camera tough or a better scren, take a look at Nokia 7.2. If you want compact and metal frame, i would say, nokia 7.1 is a great device for the money you pay this days. With also a great premium body to be found on high end devices only."
-- Hmm.. so the Nokia 7.1 is more of a premium design, but for everything else Nokia 7.2 is better. Your comments have been very helpful to me. It comes from someone who have used Nokia devices extensively for a long time and know what Nokia's should be. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.
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- bethbeatz
- r3a
- 11 May 2020
nokia should improve in the specs of nokia 8.3 5G in the aspect of battery, and camera we should see somthing like 104megapixle back camera and 48 mp front camera........ Am I saying something..........
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- Carol
- swI
- 10 May 2020
RishiGuru, 10 May 2020Wow that's a family full of Nokias!!!
As you have dealt ... moreHey, yeah, they are a good bang for buck, especially the older ones that still receive android 10 but got lower in price.
1) I can't say one that is more scandinavian, because they all are, Nokia 8 a typical lumia design with the long camera in the middle, thin and with big bazels, and nokia 9 an 'i dare to be uniqe' design that stand right up there with lumia 1020 or the mighty 808. The sirroco does not quite fall into the nokia design portofolio, a not that Nokia design, but still, holding it in your hands, you kind of know is not a samsung nor a chinese device. It has that something, i don't know what, but all old Nokia devices had it, and the new ones somehow have it to. It is strange but you know it is a Nokia, if that makes any sense.
2) they all can withstand stress and daily use is pretty much nothing for them. However when it comes to the body, out of them 3, nokia 9 is more on the sensitive side, the 8 is rock solid, sirroco the same, if you ignore the backglass (but keep in mind, i never had sirroco, it is my opinion after testing it a bit). As for performance, nokia 9 beats them, but you don't feal it that much when you upgrade, you will feal it if you go back to the older ones, tough.
3) tricky question, out of all Nokia releases, the most complete one in my opinion, would be nokia 7.2. It has a great camera, good performance, good battery, great display, Headphones jack, card slot (one has to use high speed cards, the newer batches of sd mmc's) and premium design at a quite lower price. It was bashed by a lot of wannabe reviewers because of the cpu, but in reality it is actually a great all- rounder that brings a lot of quality and good support in under 300 euros world.
4)i find that all of them i used or tested (configured) had almost the same quality when using headphones, never spotted a huge difference. As for the Speaker i really do not have an answer, as for me, all phones have a sound that i do not really appreciate, so i never listened to music and probably will never do it in the future, on the phones speakers. I like base and guitars, so for me anything with lower quallity then JBL extreme, is not something my ears would appreciate.
5) As i do not owe the device, i cannot tell you very much about it. It is a really nice designed device and feals premium. As from my niece perspecrive (she ownes it for more then a year now, almost two i think) The nokia 7.1 is the only device she did not change after a year, so she is pretty much satisfied with it, it also has no charging issues, as i have heard manny complained. If you want a great camera tough or a better scren, take a look at Nokia 7.2. If you want compact and metal frame, i would say, nokia 7.1 is a great device for the money you pay this days. With also a great premium body to be found on high end devices only.
I hope i could be usefull to you somehow. Have a nice day.
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 10 May 2020
Carol, 09 May 2020I never used a nokia with care, and they still run,problem-... moreWow that's a family full of Nokias!!!
As you have dealt with so many Nokias, will love to hear answers of my few questions:
1) Between Nokia 8 (not 8 Sirocco) and Nokia 9 which do you think sticks more to its Scandinavian roots, I mean design & simplicity in aesthetics?
2) Which one of the above two do you think is the more robust offering and have more internal strength to withstand daily use?
3) Which do you think is a more complete Nokia, barring the specs side?
4) Which one have better sound quality, both speaker & headphones?
Also would love to know you thoughts about Nokia 7.1. That phone interests me a lot.
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- Carol
- mgK
- 09 May 2020
RishiGuru, 09 May 2020Yes and no. Foxconn manufactured what HMD designed, HMD had... moreI never used a nokia with care, and they still run,problem-less. HMD portofolio being. Nokia 8 and nokia 9. My family portofolio. Nokia 5 nokia 6 nokia 7.1 nokia 7.2.
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 09 May 2020
Anonymous, 09 May 2020So Foxconn is the culprit building devices with terrible ch... moreYes and no. Foxconn manufactured what HMD designed, HMD had the say at every part of the manufacturing process. Hence HMD is more liable for this issue. The sub PCB board to which usb female port was soldered had no issues, it's just that the soldering was not done right and the pins of female port detached from the PCB. Resoldering fixed it. But the port needed to be more robust and bolted with the chassis. It was a design issue.
Saying all that I am proud owner of Nokia 7 Plus and Nokia 6.1. Heard about this issue from the beginning and used to Usb ports with care. No issues reported by me till date.
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- Anonymous
- Nue
- 09 May 2020
RishiGuru, 30 Apr 2020The truth is when HMD first came into picture with Nokia ph... moreSo Foxconn is the culprit building devices with terrible charging ports aye. You know how many of such complaints exist on this platform alone?
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- 7Xn
- 09 May 2020
Hi here in PH it is not yet sold..I wish i can afford this..I love the specs..Its beat of my iphone 7plus which is sooo expensive..🙏🙏🙏🙏 Im starting to save more money for this...😂😂😂
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 08 May 2020
Anonymous, 01 May 2020Stop your nonsense i have Nokia 6 2017 older then your phon... moreAgree. Nokia's 2018 lineup were the best. The trio of Nokia 6.1, Nokia 7 Plus & Nokia 8 Sirocco where pure Nokias. A material first led design with good specs. And of-course the original Nokia 8 of 2017.
To me Nokia 6.1 is a masterpiece in craftsmanship just like my Nokia 7 Plus. Nokia 6.1's body is carved out for a single block of 6000 series aluminum to start with. It takes a hour to mill out the body from the block. There is no stamped metal parts for decoration here. In the next 10 hours it goes through the unique two tone anodization process. First the phone is dipped in an anodization pool where the bare aluminium uni-body receives the desired color, for my Nokia 6.1 it's blue. Then a cutter is used to shave the blue anodized aluminium on its both edges, creating the unique diamond cut edges. A second layer of anodization process is then applied on the diamond cut edges to have the desired edge colors in my case gold color. Thus the two tone Blue/Gold anodization process gets completed. The phone uni-body is then polished 5 times for roughly 2 hours to provide the incredible satin like feel in hand. Entire process takes over 13 hours to complete.
A die cast metal mid-frame is then screwed internally to the metal body which reinforces the core of the device. No less than 19 screws locks the internal metal plate to this uni-body which gives Nokia 6.1 it ultimate structural integrity & durability. This is an approach to engineering that is build to last. A Scandinavian design focusing on quality, design & craftsmanship with an incredible attention to detail. After all great engineering deserves bold designs just like Nokia 6.1.
No wonder it won prestigious smartphone design awards in 2018 like from the Chicago Athenaeum: Musuem of Architecture & Design and also one of the most durable phone of of 2018 by JerryRigsEverything.
It is pity smartphones of this design caliber & internal strength are not produced anymore. Not even by Nokia. I love my Nokia 6.1 & Nokia 7 Plus.
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- Anonymous
- Tpt
- 07 May 2020
phonegeniusgsm, 07 May 2020I wanna buy this phone but does it have a 120hz screen ive ... moreYes IT have, i want this phone and Nokia 9.3
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- phonegeniusgsm
- mHq
- 07 May 2020
I wanna buy this phone but does it have a 120hz screen ive seen people say it has but on gsm is does not say
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- ILoveEeEe
- vjs
- 06 May 2020
Do you have something similar from midrange to offer for wireless charging, IP67/68 and good camera?
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- Anonymous
- 8pu
- 05 May 2020
Pretty much only worth on this is "Android One"
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- AhmedSLL
- fqZ
- 05 May 2020
5G is still not a thing, and please don't tell me future proofing, every piece of hardware in this device is mid range, for 100$ less you can get a op7t, by June or July when this device would be available, you might be able to get the op8 for 600€, and then there the iPhone 11 if you want a flagship camera.
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- Anonymous
- PaA
- 03 May 2020
i like the design not as much as nokia 9 because i like small top and botom bezzels like nokia 9, note 8 galaxy and also like pixel 2 XL but i think this is a good 5G phone but i cant spend more than 230 dollar.
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- Lumia820
- X%p
- 02 May 2020
in my opinion, the design will be so much better if it removes the bottom bezel and put it on the top, put the logo and camera there. just like the classic Lumia.
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- Aadrian
- Sk@
- 02 May 2020
Kissio, 01 Apr 2020Yeees !!! VERY VERY seriously !!! Check 7.2 feedback ...... moreSorry, forgot the link: https://www.belsimpel.nl/nokia-7-2/zwart/reviews
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- Aadrian
- Sk@
- 02 May 2020
Kissio, 01 Apr 2020Yeees !!! VERY VERY seriously !!! Check 7.2 feedback ...... moreWell, this feedback is from actual users of the 7.2 who bought the device. You can only write a review if you actually bought the phone from this website. So if you did not buy the phone, you cannot write any review nor you can troll. And see, the 7.2 gets a 9.1 out of 10, with the result it being 'excellent'.
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- IDc
- 01 May 2020
sanshiro, 01 May 2020I didn't know that LCD is still produced in late 2020's. Ki... moreI'd much rather have LCD than OLED. OLED still have burn-in issues in 2020...I want long-lasting screen.
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- Carol
- mgK
- 01 May 2020
sanshiro, 01 May 2020I didn't know that LCD is still produced in late 2020's. Ki... moreThe lame part would be the fact that you have no idea what ips LCD is. If ypu knew, you would have not posted a dumb comment.