Nokia G60
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- Anonymous
- khY
- 07 Jan 2023
This phone basically has everything, I just hope they can refresh the look of it.
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- frustrated
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- 05 Jan 2023
My experience with this phone has been disappointing. Its clunky to use the customisation is lacking and the battery is meh.
My biggest fustration by far IS THE VIBRATION!! It makes me so angry its so quiet you cant even hear it IN THE SAME ROOM! and you cant even increase it, you can just enable or disable...
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- arka
- nmC
- 02 Jan 2023
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2023When will this come to the US?Νokia G400 is similar for USA market
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- Anonymous
- khY
- 02 Jan 2023
When will this come to the US?
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- Darknoor
- 7%$
- 31 Dec 2022
A bit pricy for Nokia and at this price. I appreciate them trying to make a phone that appeals more specs wise, but at this price it is far from a contender.
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- Carol
- n@x
- 28 Dec 2022
Sigmut, 26 Dec 2022Why need launcher in Android one device ? Everything in A... moreI use Niagara because the android one Launcher, and not only, is just dated, everyone complained about symbian being dated while android just copy pasted it's interface. Also i always uninstall google (the app which integrates the assistent and some other crapp) and because of that the searchbar does not work, but it also cannot be disabled. Niagara is just fresh and inovative, and it would be cool if hmd would buy them and make it the standard launcher in it's android phones.
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- Sigmut
- nm8
- 26 Dec 2022
Why need launcher in Android one device ?
Everything in Android one is clean and easy
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- Carol
- 3td
- 25 Dec 2022
Anonymous, 25 Dec 2022Third party launcher from Microsoft is excellent and works ... moreNiagara Launcher is better....well at peast in my opinion.
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- Anonymous
- 8pJ
- 25 Dec 2022
Third party launcher from Microsoft is excellent and works great with Nokia phones I love it
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- AnonD-785804
- uth
- 20 Dec 2022
ps5orxbox, 20 Dec 2022I' have G60 for 1 month But my phone have 2 problem... moreAre you using third party launcher
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- Tom
- nmA
- 20 Dec 2022
ps5orxbox, 20 Dec 2022I' have G60 for 1 month
But my phone have 2 problem... moreBefore reset look for
-Bad quality or dirty tempered glass if you put one .
Similar for a aftermarket case maybe conflict with your finger full touch
-Try screen refresh 60hz or auto if problem fix .
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- ps5orxbox
- AAq
- 20 Dec 2022
I' have G60 for 1 month
But my phone have 2 problem. Problem is I switch system navigation to 3 button navigation, but sometime the on screen buttons at bottom of screen don't work when I touch. I sometime have to press few times before it work
And after software update, there is new lag and slowdown when I click on the square button which is to see all and scroll all recent apps & to clear all.
Is anyone else have these problem. Should I full reset?
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- Sin
- 0RN
- 16 Dec 2022
Was reading the comments
Yota phone had flagship processors
till the yotaphone 3 that was mid range but priced like flagship
Actually own a yotaphone 2 was on sale a lot as result of over production and low domand
But yotaphone 3+ very expensive mid range phone was deal breaker and let down
If it wasn't for the Russian yotaphone brand being sold too the Chinese they would have probably still be making flagship phones but yotaphone is rip so no possibly of yotaphone 4
But with most of there's kinda brands what happens is they make solid smartphones then go downhill after time
Same case with Google Nokia htc or fairphone good then till they change out the high end hardware for mid range hardware but still high asking price as if it is still flagship phone but now it's only mid range phone
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- Carol
- mek
- 15 Dec 2022
Tom209, 14 Dec 2022I understand your points.
I prefer LCD too, as I'm ... moreI find the new g60 and x30 to be a good user experience overall and they will go throut the promised 3 years without an issue, well if Google does not f up again. I think tough that google finaly understoods that experience is when one creates a good OS not when a device needs 12 GB RAM and 12 CPU cores for a drvice to work properly. I mean there are Servers that work faster and do better with way less.
This is where improvements are needed 0,0nm circuits cannot be done, hardware in general reached a wall, untill something mindblowing comes up, well the wall is there.
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- Tom209
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- 14 Dec 2022
Carol, 13 Dec 2022Ok yeah....
i do not find the Prices of hmd Phones to be... moreI understand your points.
I prefer LCD too, as I'm sensitive to Pulse Width Modulation and Temporal dithering. I'm glad some manufacturers (including HMD) still offer LCD, as it helps give a choice to those sensitive to AMOLED.
AMOLED display tech is slowly improving. Hopefully next year we'll see some AMOLED displays with permanent DC dimming applied to prevent flickering at all refresh rates.
Yes you're right. User experience is the most important aspect when using a smartphone. But I also view smartphones similar to mini laptops. And with laptops, no matter what, the better the specs, the better the experience/future proofing/longevity.
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- Carol
- 3td
- 13 Dec 2022
Tom209, 13 Dec 2022I've merely stated where improvements could have been ... moreOk yeah....
i do not find the Prices of hmd Phones to be premium. I find them to be ok, the x30 is somewhat pricy but this device is actually ok, sony 10 iV ist more expensive then this and i do not find it to be a better value. But i can understand what you mean...
Yes, they should have put SD7xx 5g Series CPU in the x30, but people would complain about that too. I think here was all about battery life. They could maybe reach the same battery life if they would have used IPS LCD with Nokia PureBlack Tech (believe me, it make a whole lot of difference and is way easier on the eyes then amoled while keeping great colors and contrast) with 90Hz instead of 120 together 778G+ 5G or something in those lines. i do not really care about 5G since is still nothing but something to come in the next 10 years, but i know a lot of unknowing ones do, and a lot of them also thin Amoled is "Premium", while having no idea what's behind an amoled on a 300 euros device.
They could biff-up the hardware at Flagship levels but then they would have already be hitten the wall because that perticular market does not grow at all. Also the devices would be at least 200 euros more expensive.
As i've said, you cannot compare hmd with chinese brands that are almost all coming from the same Corporation that has stolen every bit of information from other brands... it is practically imposible to be compared.
Not one serious brand, can sell that cheap, so i do not find them to ripp customers off. I find chinese brands to ripp customer off their life and ethics....
hmd put's out balancd devices, nothing out of the ordinary (except for 9 pureview), that are a bit on the pricy side when compared to chinese rippoffs, but compared with real brands, they are at the same price, and sometimes even cheapper.
Android One is not what people think, it is more of a Policy driven Software Certification, as far as i know. So there is all about how clean of crapp, up to date and secure the device is. Also if the brand worthy of Enterprise Level with all it's security needs or not. If the Stored data Location is secure or not, if the brand is a data troll or not, and probably many other aspects.
So it pretty much has nothing to do with how google updates devices, a thing thats not true.
More like Google releases the Core-OS Code and imposes policies on it that need to be repsected so for the companies to be able to get the "Android One" certification. The rest is made by the company that releases the device, from drivers to bug fixes, because no hardware works the same, to updating their own devices. So is not all bells and withsles with android one, as many think. hmd still needs to work on the software to make it work on their devices.
I actually find it good that they do not work on redundend Apps and fuggly Launchers, especially because i do not like to have 300 apps straight from the get go. I like to use my apps and my launcher, that is way better then any launcher: be it samsung, apple UI or whatever other brands.
Maybe some tweaks to the core system would be good received, but that's about all what i would like in a OS.
So, as you see people have different needs and opinions. And not all of them need paper spec-sheets and whatever other stuff that most cannot put together or understand. Especially the flock of tech wannabes in this comment sections.
This brand does nothing but marketing their devices for the right customers, with the hope of making attractive products for "becoming customers". For them to fight other brands with cheap devices or expensive flagships would mean a shot in the foot.
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- Tom209
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- 13 Dec 2022
Carol, 11 Dec 2022I was just refering at the way you trashed the device there... moreI've merely stated where improvements could have been made and in-line with the competition.
The overall point though, is that consumers would be willing to pay more for a HMD/Nokia device, even a premium price, if their handsets were appropriately specced.
As a counter argument to the extra cost would always be that HMD/Nokia offers their "long term update/support" and warranty.
Releasing devices with budget specs and charging premium pricing is asinine.
However, releasing adequately/highly specced devices, at a premium (or even slightly higher pricing), would make their devices more desirable, competitive and possibly market leading.
The budget segement is heavily heavily heavily over saturated. Like you've said, cost wise, HMD cannot compete with some of the other cheaper brands (regardless of whether these other brands UI's come with bloatware or privacy issues - as people will only ever really notice the price to specs ratio of a handet).
What I have noticed consistently throughout all the comment sections on almost every HMD device I've ever seen- is People requesting, asking, begging, pleading.. For better specs/processors/features.
HMD are foolish to ignore all this feedback. Which in turn, won't make them excel in success or capitalize in any market.
However, people constantly and continually request more stock android ui interfaces on more powerful hardware, as there is currently only one major option: Pixel (and possibly Motorola but that isn't true stock android and their update policy is atrocious).
Other manufacturers rely heavily on their own in house UI's, which costs them money to research, develop, implement, update and maintain.
The majority of this cost is absent from android one devices. Therefore HMD don't really have an excuse to be solely using 4 series snapdragon chips (x10/x20/x100/G400/G300/G50/XR20 etc) and charging for these devices like they're a 7 series snapdragon.
Yes we know HMD don't subsidize the cost by installing bloatware like the other brands do - but that doesn't mean to say they aren't obviously ripping consumers off. Which they evidently are.
Using the 695g, almost a year after it's release, in two of their latest handsetsn - the G60/X30 - is a mistake. Consumers who are in the know, will see the "6" series and the "£££" of the handsets, and immediately turn the other way.
This wouldn't be the case if they see an "8" series or even an upper mid range "7" series snapdragon number, beside a high price ££. People would consider the device on its merits, and factor in the post sales support and "promised" updates - and could be willing to pay the premium price.
HMD, if you're reading this:
- Give consumers what we want and have been asking for, for years.
- Give consumers decent high specs, features, & better quality to future proof your devices for at least 3 years - which falls alongside your marketing of "after sales" support for 3 years.
-And charge consumers whatever premium expensive price you want (within reason) if need be - but please keep Nokia's name and reputation alive and untarnished.
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- Carol
- n@x
- 11 Dec 2022
Tom209, 10 Dec 2022Where have I said I didn't have it? Do you want me ... moreI was just refering at the way you trashed the device there, and here i see a sudden, "would be the best if it had stereo speakers and 500 mah more battery".... I find it a bit odd to say the least.
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- Carol
- n@x
- 11 Dec 2022
Tom209, 10 Dec 2022Google have used the latest hardware in the past in their p... moreYeah, you're right they always had flagshippy specs till pixel 5. After that i would not call them flagships, tensor is a bit of an experiment and is not quite there with Snapdragon, but well, a flagship is not only a CPU, so yeah...over the board they all are flagshippy spected.
RAM is important, of course, but RAM speed is more important then count, and i presume that this is where mobile phones RAM evolved. Count is also important, dropping on the third place tough, cause way more impotant is the system optimisation. Bad optimised OS would be bad even with 32 gb RAM.
Android was a hog in this area, i find that it got way better with a10 and 11, 12 is a bit sluggish again but i presume that will get better in time when 13 gets more bugs crushed. Let's face it, 13 is how 12 should have been from the get-go, and is still not quite there.
I do not know what rules impose Google uppon android one device manufacturers, i find it tough hard to believe that they impose specs rules.
hmd Global is a quite small company, compared to samsung, apple, sony and google, i exclude chinese "brands". So they cannot afford to fight concurence at flagship level, where the market is pretty stiff and people do not buy that much while also do not change to much between brands. So i presume that they observed a growing demand in the mid-rage low-end segments and here is where they can grow, so they push devices in this segments. I find it strategically, very well acted, if they would have not change their strategy, they would have hitten rock buttom by now. They will also never be able to sell cheap, only if they turn their strategy and ethics arround, and do what the chinese do, but if they do that, there would be no reason for them to exist, i mean, nobody needs another brand with such behaviour. In my opinion they managed to achive a good market share in an area that will stay constant. People that do not want to buy nor to support chinese brands, but would not pay 1000 euros for some fancy spect devices. People that would use android but do not want a full of garbage android, that comes from, let's say the obvious, samsung. They topped this with the 3.3.3 model and so distingueshed themsleves from sony, motorola and samsung. At the end, at this point it is only a survival fight. With all the floading and inteligence theft comming from china while apple's on the stearing wheel, innovation hit rock buttom a long time ago. People complain, but do nothing about it. Hunting for 100€ devices with buffy specs, not mattering who, how, when and why did the devices, will for sure not bring the innovation on it's feet again.
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- Tom209
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- 10 Dec 2022
Carol, 10 Dec 2022Google has nothing to say in this segment. I find it tough ... moreGoogle have used the latest hardware in the past in their pixel and nexus lines. They are now relying on their own chipset (Tensor) which is pretty upper mid range/high end.
Also high specs are a necessity, especially considering android 13 requires at least 2GB RAM to run efficiently, and for those that game (which many people do - though not me), then ram and processor specs are very important.
Low specced phones aren't future proof. It's all well and good offering 3 years of updates and warranty, but how will the UI experience be within that time? This extended post sales service is a marketing gimmick.
Even the whole in built batteries is a scam of the highest order - because of Apple, all other manufacturers followed suit & copied.
This restricts the lifespan of a device, as each time you charge it, it loses endurance. And replacing in built batteries is no easy or cheap feat.
The least manufactures could do is provide decent price to specs handsets, ensuring future proofing. This is something HMD haven't considered.
Yota phone, Simple phone, fairphone etc are very niche specific devices, so they can/could get away with high price/under specs etc.
I remember when 4GB ram was being included in handsets from 2015, like the Galaxy note 5.
7 years on, and we're still seeing manufactures, including Chinese brands, still offering only 4GB.
Anyhow, I think google are involved somehow in placing limitations on android one devices, as no one (apart from google/stock android) has ever released a high specced/powered android one phone.