Nokia N9
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- 08 Nov 2011
AnonD-29509, 08 Nov 2011I am deciding whether to buy the HTC sensation XL or the N9... morepurchase n9
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- AnonD-22393
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- 08 Nov 2011
First update of Nokia N9 available officialy.
http://discussions.nokiausa.com/t5/Software-Updates/N9-PR1-1-Update-released/m-p/1204081
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- Anonymous
- Sbs
- 08 Nov 2011
htc sensation or nokia n9???
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- Anonymous
- Mty
- 08 Nov 2011
AnonD-4340, 07 Nov 2011YOur post was interesting to a point, then you wrote:
&quo... moreAs a nokia 701 user, i can tell you that symbian is definitely not slow. Perhaps if you actually used a symbian device rather than sitting on your droid hole and talking absolute nonsense you would know better.
The 1ghz processors in the new symbian devices is definitely not as good as lower clocked processors of other architecture but us still faster than that in previous symbian devices.
Its not just the symbian ui that us power efficient, its everything. Apps included. Watch some app demos and quit rambling. Comparing hardware cross platform is stupid. Apps on my pc run better with win7 than thay did with vista.
Symbian is 20years old. It dates back to a time when high capacity batteries were unavailable. Android is a visualized os. Running an app on android is comparable to running one on windows 7 which is being visualized on windows xp.
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- Zhane
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- 08 Nov 2011
there's a new update for N9..
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- Anonymous
- IWc
- 08 Nov 2011
Do check your N9 as PR1.1 is out.
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- Putwins
- Ss4
- 08 Nov 2011
If this nokia would have been with android I definitely would buy this.
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- AnonD-13986
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- 08 Nov 2011
hellvin123, 07 Nov 2011I don't have blue tint on my S2.It is my first samsung phon... moreIt's not whether the owner take care of the phone or not, it's whether the phone can last if used in the usual way. Esp for those who dont work in an office. Nokia lasts, Samsung from my experience, dont,with same usage pattern.
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- plaurian
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- 08 Nov 2011
its happened right now a big update of nokia n9 in romania. thanks nokia
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- mick
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- 08 Nov 2011
AnonD-29509, 08 Nov 2011I am deciding whether to buy the HTC sensation XL or the N9... morethe www.my-meego.com website is where you can find any meego app, updated daily. It doesn't only have apps from ovi store, but community apps. However, some comm apps aren't straight forward to install, and you will either need to activate developer mode on the phone, or install apps by syncing the phone to a computer. Not quite as easy as android or ios. i think that there are a couple of hundred apps at the moment, nothing compared to android.
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- shubham goel
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- 08 Nov 2011
n9 is amzing handset
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- AnonD-29509
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- 08 Nov 2011
I am deciding whether to buy the HTC sensation XL or the N9. I would go for Nokia as it has always been my first option..BUT i would like to know are they even enough meego apps?? Last checked, it were barely 10 games on the ovi store. Is there anywhere else i can download games for meego? Please help me choose between the 2 phones!! I am really confused!:/
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Nov 2011
Anonymous, 07 Nov 2011N9 is the queen of all deviceseveryone should try n9 best phone out will shit on the iphone 4s, samsung galaxy and all those crabb phones out this phone is the best phone.....
good designing nokia
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- Chick
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- 08 Nov 2011
Nokia N9 will be atleast my companion for another 2 to 3 years.....
Coz window custom is too ugly to choose.
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- fone
- Xuf
- 08 Nov 2011
....after travelling through all public opinions, found that Mr Elop made the biggest blunder in Nokia phone, s history.
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- Wanted
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- 08 Nov 2011
Shanmithi, 07 Nov 2011Hey guys..! Did you check out the latest Nokia phone called... moreguys,
externally both Nokia N9 and nokia lumia 800 look exactly alike,
but inside nokia 800 is much much inferior except cpu 1.4 GHZ.
....... no JAVA, no NFC, RAM only half of N9, memory only quarter of N9, small screen size, fixed window custom which you cannot change , no dolby sound support, very limited applications , no video call facility etc etc.....
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- AnonD-29433
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- 07 Nov 2011
hi there, I am an N900 user and i wanted to replace my N73 with this amazing device N9. Truly saying Nokia itself didnt realise what a competitor they made against all the smartphones in the globe today.. after researching N9 and comparing it with various handsets, specially Iphone, its damn a worth taking device.. if worried about the future of the Os, theres a lot more coming from the community excluding nokias official support. there are enuf useful applications for N9 with rich graphics and UI support. we can also install .deb files which makes it much easier. with a little modifications and settings and with useful apps this device in my opinion is truly a strong competitor against any current smartphone in the market....
N900 Still Rocks...
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- AnonD-4340
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- 07 Nov 2011
AnonD-22651, 07 Nov 2011I have always been a Symbian fanboy. No matter how it faile... moreYOur post was interesting to a point, then you wrote:
"Now...
Symbian Belle is moving to markets with 701,700,603.
Nokia 701. Great specs! 1Ghz CPU and 512MB RAM with GPU as powerfull as 4xThe_GPU_of_N8!
And most importantly Symbian Belle. Some of you might still think why couldn't they put a DUAL CORE 1.5Ghz and 1GB ram etc!
But the fact is, it's not running Android or iOS. Symbian has never been Resource hungry and is still the best OS in terms of resource optimization and Battery life*"
1st of all, thats a 1GHz Arm11 processor! Its performance is lower than a 600MHz Cortex A8. ARMv6 vs ARMv7 architecture. So Nokia 701 does not have great specs.
And for the rest, lest talk programming and assembler instructions and how software is executed. ASk who you like, they will tell you the same: YOU CAN GIVE A OS A LIGHT FOOTPRINT BUT YOU CANT DO MAGIC TO EXECUTE SOFTWARE/APPS!
Any given app has to be executed by the processor, Symbian cant do any magic here, and thats why N8 is SLOW. The N8 UI is fast enough because its fairly simple, but at once you execute an app you can feel how slow it is, and this happens regardlss of OS, if Nokia/Symbian had a magic way to execute apps then it would be an unprecedented software revolution that would change the world. Now the reality is much simpler, the instructions that make up an app are executed by the processor and controlled by the OS.
If you need further proof then do the following: Dual bot a PC with one install of Ubuntu GNU/Linux (the most bloated and slow OS available), and also have one install of Gentoo compiled with bare essentials, in other words a customized superlightweigh Gentoo intallation. Now run some benchmarks and comon programs and see that UBUNTU WILL IN FACT BE FASTER IN MANY BENCHMARKS, despite having a very heavy OS footprint.
This is how things work in real life, the old myth that Symbian does not need fast processors is obviously not true, or else N8 would be a fast fone, but its not, its easily 30x slower than a faily good android fone in javascript benchmarks, for example. What is true otoh, is that Symbian apps are not compatible with ARMv7 architecture (Cortex and Scorpio cores), and thats the reason why nokia have not yet and never will introduce fast processors for Symbian fones.
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- AnonD-22651
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- 07 Nov 2011
I have always been a Symbian fanboy. No matter how it failed and how people bash it.
I am not here to troll Android, iOS, Blackberry OS, iOS or WP7.
Just sharing something...
Android, iOS and even MeeGo all are power packed OSs. They are immensely smooth and has what it takes to satisfy any user.
And yeah 90% now thinks Symbian is no where near. But those 90% have actually used S60v5 or N8 PR 1.2.
S60v5 had really destroyed Symbian to the core. People just got the impression that Symbian = Laggy.
Nokia had limited it's hardware to 434Mhz and 128MB ram in those devices which resulted in epic "FAIL" user experience.
And during the days of 5800 and n97, Nokia was like a GOD mobile manufacturer and majority of the people trusting Nokia bought those devices and got disappointed horribly. This lead to mass destruction of Nokia Reputation and Symbian Platform.
Symbian was super feature packed but the functions were not implemented well. While Android and iOS had very less functions but what they had were implemented very very well.
Nokia came up with N900 which had the best potential at the time as it was super smooth at that time (Maemo was rocking!). It had everything. If importance was paid to it. It could be a game changer. But Nokia never really paid attention to maemo and even now to MeeGo (N9 Maemo6 Harmattan/MeeGo). Nokia being attached to symbian just ditched every other idea and innovation that could hamper symbian development. Symbian was a religion in Nokia for years until Steven Elop arrived.
(So Nokia fans who were angry of Nokia for ditching symbian and adopting WP7, do see this. See how Nokia did a lot to help Symbian development)
It seemed Nokia was helpless. Don't know if programming/coding Symbian was so difficult or they had closed their eyes for a while. They tried to put the best hardware in N97 like FM Transmitter, Excellent body, cam etc but failed to put A good CPU, RAM and GPU"
Nokia seems, they had learned a lot if you compare N8 to N97.
They were too late but they realized their mistake.
See Samsung Omnia 8910HD. See it's Homescreen, Task Manager and stuff. If Samsung could do it with a S60v5. What was Nokia doing?
Symbian was no doubt heavily uplifted by Nokia and really Nokia behaved like a father of Symbian OS making it a super popular OS during the reign of N95. but they were also the ones to kill it by making N97.
Finally they released N8. They put all MeeGo/Maemo plans aside for it. just for the sake of Symbian so that it might be popular and also to boost sales of N8. N8 was really Nokia's first step to intelligence after 2+ years of failure. But they should have given MeeGo/maemo a fair chance. If they could have given. If N9 was released during the time of iPhone 3GS and they would support it with one major update a year. Nokia could rule today. Nokia put all hopes on symbian that didn't work out though they had success with Symbian^3.
Symbian^3 was heavily revamped in terms of speed. N8 when it was released had the BEST GPU at that time compared to any phone of that time. many few people do know that. But had it a 1Ghz A8 with 512 MB RAM, people would get heavily attracted to it. Yeah and ofcourse, they should have introduced it to the markets with Symbian Belle and not with PR 1.1/1.2/Anna coz if you want to make a device cool and new, you need to make it look cool (The UI) and you do need to change the visuals to make it look different.
Who would have liked Windows 8 with super advanced functions but with the UI of Windows Classic (ex Win 98) ??
Now...
Symbian Belle is moving to markets with 701,700,603.
Nokia 701. Great specs! 1Ghz CPU and 512MB RAM with GPU as powerfull as 4xThe_GPU_of_N8!
And most importantly Symbian Belle. Some of you might still think why couldn't they put a DUAL CORE 1.5Ghz and 1GB ram etc!
But the fact is, it's not running Android or iOS. Symbian has never been Resource hungry and is still the best OS in terms of resource optimization and Battery life*
My Nokia N8 with Symbian Belle (Beta version!) is no doubt working too smooth if you compare it to a same android device with 680Mhz and 256MB RAM.
Now SGS II runs super smooth! yeah But it has 1.2GHz dual core with almost 1 GB RAM. So if Symbian Belle on my N8 is running a little slower than SGS II, it isn't Symbian's fault. Had Nokia N8 the same specs as SGSII, it would had done the same. Nokia gave N8 a mind blowing 12MP cam but didn't give it enough power to compete with modern devices.
My point is, if Symbian with such low spec hardware still comes almost near to the top devices running on kickas* 1.2Ghz/1.5Ghz chips, how can it be called laggy, faulty and fail os?
And also do note the fact that when we compare OSs, we must always take the latest versions in regard. You can't just take out your 14k 5800(s60v5 - 1st Symbian touch based os) and compare it to 44k iPhone4 (4th generation of iOS).
The comparison between both the OS would be only fair if both the OS were running on same hardware.
LOL if you compare Win7 on a 1Ghz dual core with a windows98 running on 2.56Ghz i3. obviously, Windows98 will work faster.
So Symbian got everything it needs to get to the top on condition that Nokia provides it with ultimate hardware as seen on the latest devices.
If Nokia release at least one 1.2Ghz dual core with 1GB ram and a modern high speed GPU with Symbian Belle. We can truly compare it to iPhones and modern Androids and yeah you can be sure Symbian will beat them in every regards.
With Qt Symbian software development has increased more than ever and see how OVI store is having a massive 9M downloads per day!
Nokia just needs to step in and make those big as* devices. And maybe we see miracles from Nokia in 2012. Who knows.