- 11 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2023Everybody is a learner till their death. I don't feel ... moreDo you think someone is going to read that much text???
- 11 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2023Ya'll arguing for no reason End of the day, I'll... moreThat is not the problem, the problem is your comment here that has no reason. People here might learn something, so discussions are always a good thing. Gaming on phones paied by your erderly? Let's see how would you like your phone to be when you actually pay for it, and feel on your own wage what it means to buy garbage versus sustainable.
- 11 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2023Everybody is a learner till their death. I don't feel ... moreOf course everybody should learn like there is no ending and live like there is no tomorrow, no matter the source as long as the source is good. I do not live by assuming, i live by knowing, and if i do not know, i try to learn.
Nope you clearly said hmd bought NOKIA, while not only that they never bought nothing from nokia, they also do not owe the name. To pay a license and to buy a company are two very different stories. So don't blame me of whatever when you clearly try to escape ignorance by accusing me of me of "escaping" answers, while you still did not understand what hmd actually ownes and what it does not. So yeah you're right here, you should not be talking business if you do not understand them, therefore this subject could be avoided. Even tough, you started it, you somehow, even here, make it sound like i started it, nice try.
This one is good, you confuse "revenue" with "profits" and are not sure what both actually are. No company in this world pays it's bills with profit.
Let me put it in short for you to understand.
Revenue is the total income of a company, everything that a company receives out of sales or services offered. From the "revenue" there is everything that has to be paid, operational costs, wages, everything that keeps a company surviving. When a company can do that with it's revenue, is great, if it cannot, well, it means that it spends more money then it can afford, which brings it to laying off personal (the cowerdly but easiest path to calibrate costs and revenue), and if keeps on going downhill, it means bankruptcy. So revenue is way more important then profit. Profit is what is left after paying EVERYTHING they needed to pay. That is why it is called PROFIT, those are money to burn for r&d or wage increse or other goodies (if profit is stable enough). As i already said, hmd turned to profit just about 1 or 2 years ago, if that remained stable, i do not know. But yes it is a big step for a starter company, and am happy for them, that they could achieve it, especially after corona killing their very slow asscension straight in the beginning of their jurney.
As i have already said, i could not care less about chinese companies. If the one that complaines and trolls nokia comments sections stops comparing a brand, with a chinese brand, then the chinese are out of discussion for me anyway. If you actually read my comments you'll find out that i compare nokia with sony, google and sometimes Samsung. Nothing is ok, but is nothing for the moment, quite bad battery life in comparison to x30, camera is meah to say the most and leds do not make me buy a phone.
Every custom UI incorporates bloatware? Maybe, but should it? Nope! Samsung is one of the worst when we talk bloatware, hack even their bixbi is nothhing but forced bloatware. I blame because is something to blame them about, at the prices this companies sell, they should at least have common sense and stop eating customer's privacy for their own revenue. Chinese being even worse.
X10 and X20 get a price cut pretty often, hack they bother were like 179€ for about a week in europe. Well, if they are not there where you live, bad for hmd.
As i've said, i do not care about chinese brands, and i do not find them really good. Paper specs and actuall user experience are again two different things. If you call a device good just because it is cheap and comes with buffy cpu, well...ignorance is bliss. There are a tone of people that pay for this kind of devices that turn to garbage in about a year, if you call that good, you have a problem. And here we go again at hmd enslaves it's customers, meah, just when you said you'd learn from people... G400 was build in colaboration with that particular Carrier and for that particular carrier. I have already listed 3 of it's equivalent devices, i think that there is no need to talk about them again. Sorry that, as you claim, none seems to be available in your country, hmd should care more about this and be carefull how they price it compared with the contry stability level, i give you that one.
Did you just compared inflation and existential products with smartphone industry and smartphones? Doing this is like comparing apocalypse with the will to buy a car that you can't afford. Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? You do not need a smartphone to stay alive, and not all smartphones are expensive, as you said, there are chinese brands that are "really good" that you can buy, there are sony, motorola and google pixel with clean android, that you can buy, there is fairphone that you can buy, how is hmd using this to force people to pay more?
Anyway from the rest i can spare my self a few minutes of writing, i wish you well, and hope for you to find the device you'll need. I can understand your frustration but you can always wait for price drops if you want a device, and their is always a price drop for a device or another, be it google, nothing, sony , Motorola or nokia, very rarely,for the fairphone.
- 11 Mar 2023
Carol, 09 Mar 2023Again wow...my.. GSMarena specs sheet, is more often then n... moreWell Carol. I never wanted to say this but, still, I do it.
You actually know what I meant by, "If HMD wasn't capable they couldn't have bought NOKIA from MICROSOFT". But, for the sake of our argument and to stand out, you played smart by going beyond the scope of our discussion to teach me the differences between the organizations HMD and NOKIA. To be precise, you even taught me that NOKIA is just a brand. This proves your attitude. But, no problem since my ego levels are low.
For your information, I speak not for my personal benefits but, for the welfare of our world. Though I eagerly awaited a good budget mobile from HMD, I never have cravings for it. A mobile is just a tool to make jobs simpler. To be precise, it is not even worthier to speak about mobiles or any such fancy gadgets for such a long time. But, everyone gets carried away to speak about such things because of lust.
Good luck. Take care. Bye...
- 10 Mar 2023
Carol, 09 Mar 2023Again wow...my.. GSMarena specs sheet, is more often then n... moreEverybody is a learner till their death. I don't feel shy to learn from you or from a kid. If I say that I know everything, it means that I am the greatest idiot. We all know nothing even .000000000001 percent of things in our Universe. We all live by assumptions.
Coming to Nokia, what you said is right. I actually meant NOKIA MOBILES just by saying NOKIA. HMD just bought or licensed (to be precise) the BRAND NAME NOKIA for their mobile division from MICROSOFT who held the licence at that time. Now, HMD has to renew the license only with Nokia and not with Microsoft. But, this brand licensing has its own cost. How the transaction was made, whether on installments or through other agreements is classified. I think these details aren't necessary for our discussion about Nokia X30 and to be precise, our discussion is not about the history of Nokia or HMD or about making business deals with HMD or NOKIA to dig about who owns what. I just meant the financial capability of HMD in my last message. When an ordinary man utters the word "Nokia", it automatically refers to Nokia mobile devices of HMD and not Nokia Inc. Every time you escape the scene by discussing things beyond scope.
For your information, not only HMD but, every organisation in this world pay their bills using profits they make. Hope you wouldn't start a debate about charitable institutions/organizations and nonprofit making organizations. You support and speak for HMD with care, as if you are one of the largest share holders of HMD. HMD has invested a lot on this brand name "NOKIA" to manufacture mobiles. Also their current revenues and profits aren't low. To be precise, they don't struggle to run the show. Hence, they are capable enough to price their mobiles competitively. HMD can still pay their bills if this mobile X30 is priced lower. Their profits might even increase due to increase in sales, if this mobile is priced lower. For any organisation, their growth is calculated not based on profits but on revenues.
Coming to Chinese mobiles, it is not about whether Chinese mobiles are Good or Bad. It is all about comparisons you make. Your comparison accounts only to making compromises. When you speak about Nokia, just speak only about Nokia. You may compare it with other brands by not criticising other brands. If you need to criticise them, go to the relevant opinion page to do it. Hope you know that Nokia mobiles are made in China too.
Every Custom UI incorporates some bloatware. Even Samsung mobiles do contain bloatwares. Though we blame and complain a lot about these manufacturers (including Chinese) are we really great enough to do so? The honest answer is NO. But, we speak just because we are consumers and these manufacturers make profits through our money. All these manufacturers patiently hears everything we say just because they know that they survive because of us (consumers). But, though I complain a lot about this device, I really love Stock Android. I don't mind whether it is from Nokia, Google Pixel or Nothing Phone. Instead of being a fan of one particular brand I always accept the good whoever does it. If you wish to compare Nokia with some other brand compare it with Pixel and Nothing Phone which too incorporates Stock Android. Don't compare it Chinese mobiles.
It is not about whether X10, X20, etc., would receive Android 14 but, it is about its pricing and availability in all the countries.
Why we all speak about Chinese mobiles? Because, they are really good. But, full of bloatwares, the only reason, why we complain. HMD takes advantage of this, to price their good mobiles exorbitantly. Why shouldn't HMD release good mobiles like G400 as a budget or midrange device? Why should they charge consumers with basic Unisoc processors? Android Updates can be healthy only if the processors are good and capable. These Unisoc processors are efficient only for Android Go edition. Nokia G400 has a Full HD display and a good Qualcomm SOC. But, Nokia G22 is compromised with Unisoc processor and with just a HD display. We all know the additional cost that would be needed for a midrange Qualcomm SOC instead of UniSoc and a Full HD display instead of HD display. If we just add this additional cost to G22, the mobile will not go costlier though there will be a little price increase. My question is why shouldn't HMD make something good to our world? Making our world a wonderful place can be done only by doing the best God gave us the best of everything. But, we just destroyed it.
Whatever be the case, releasing Nokia G22 with Android 12 with other budget variants C22 and C32 with Android 13 is unethical. Its easy reparability feature is just another USP of HMD. Nothing more, nothing less.
Don't die hard. Whoever it may be, every mobile manufacturer is a multimillionaire. Every rich person and rich corporates can really do wonderful things to make our world a wonderful place. But, no one cares.
As you've said it is true that no organisation forces anyone to buy their products. To understand, let's consider the food you eat. It may be rice, wheat, bread or something else. If its price is hiked abnormally, we all blame the Government because we expect them to do good to us. Also, you can't refuse to buy it because you badly need it. But, if it is priced exorbitantly what will you do? In the same way everyone complains about everything when their expectation goes unfulfilled.
I sincerely admit that I eagerly expected a good decent budget mobile from Nokia like G400. I never said that I hate Nokia. You can't find me writing elsewhere at GSMarena. I only write a lot here at Nokia's opinion page (actually belongs to GSMarena) just because I expected a lot from them. If a Chinese mobile is priced exorbitantly, I don't care because I don't need it anyway. But, I will definitely consider them if they remove bloatwares.
Nothing Phone 1 is really very good and priced reasonably. But, it lacks a 3.5mm audio jack. The same is the case with Pixel 6a. I badly need a 3.5mm audio jack because, music sounds good on good quality wired headphones. I have some good numbers of good quality wired headphones. Also, I don't believe in Bluetooth headphones for music though it might help reasonably well while making calls. Even this mobile X30 lacks it. But, I never spoke about it because, its pricing is not ethical anyway, even if it had it. If the Pixel 6a or Nothing Phone 1 had the 3.5mm audio jack, I will not be here to talk about this device. To be honest Pixel 6a's and Nothing Phone 1's hardwares are really good for their prices.
Nokia G60 employs just a budget hardware for its price. I would've accepted it if it is priced similar to G400. It is not about consumer's financial capacity in buying a device but, it is all about the value manufacturers associate to consumer's money. Please accept facts, gracefully.
To make my argument more meaningful, just assume how good will it be to have the Nokia Tablet T21 with Snapdragon 480+ or with some other good Qualcomm SOC. Instead of calculating revenues and profits that can be made from a particular device, manufacturers should only think about making a good device that serves the interests of our society. This is what is emphasised in Total Quality Management. Profits will automatically follow when your deeds are right.
If I am wrong or if I am lost, it cares nothing to our world. But, it is not the case with entrepreneurs who provides goods and services to our world. The world believes in them and expects a lot from them.
To conclude, I would appreciate any brand that releases mobiles with Stock Android with zero bloatwares and with decent hardware, even if it is a Chinese brand.
As you have said it is always TRUE that HMD never forces anyone to buy their devices. But, don't they expect consumers to buy their devices. In the same way every consumer expects the organizations around them to do something good for them. Business is not about making money. It is about sharing it properly. Life is all about give and take.
There is nothing wrong to settle with some other competing device because, Android is not secured anyway. Apps that steal data will steal it anyway even if it is installed on a Stock Android based system.
I think it is not worthier to talk about this device or HMD anymore. Thank you.
- 10 Mar 2023
Ya'll arguing for no reason
End of the day, I'll spit facts:
HMD devices are rubbish, unless you're over 30+ & don't game. Then they're ok choice.
For us youngsters that game & socialize online, we need specs n good price. Samsung, Rog, vivo, IQ, red magic, black shark, poco, xiaomi, oneplus, oppo, realme blah blah blah give us this perfectly
Y'all old folks stay arguing over hmd 🤣🤣🤣
HM for the Elderly D. We don't care!
Btw, x30 is a thumbs down cuz 695g is laughable for $500. Must be mad to pay this much for 695 🤣🤣
- 3.5mm jack
- 09 Mar 2023
No 3.5mm jack is a big no
- 09 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 08 Mar 2023Again, WOW, you do the same thing to defend, champion Nokia... moreAgain wow...my.. GSMarena specs sheet, is more often then not false, hack they even say themselves that this and that might not be true. I am now to lazy to seach for nothing that interests me, but if you say so, well i believe you, the other two are launching with android 13. I compared nokia with chinaware, because everybody does it here, especially those who complain about the price. You do it too, so why the sudden change of mind? You realised that it ain't working so now you're trying to make it sound as if you would use a more respectfull brand? Just saying. I my self could not care less about chinese brands when i am on the market searching for the next device. But you will not find a device cheaper then nokia that's not chinaware, or does not compromise in other criterias, so why complaining?
I find the x10, x20 and xr20 to still be relevant to buy now, they are on android 13 and as far as i know, they are too in the 3 3 3 program, so they should receive the 14. Well, in theory...or maybe not. Yeah, anyway....
By G22 hardware, i mean the fact that is easily repairable and does not look like crapp. I would like that on x30, but well, it is a start and the device sounds more like something they released to test the "waters" for acceptance, mostly like when their first android came out, the nokia 6. So they might release something better with those implementations.
I do not find it difficult to answer to you, i find it tiresome...
You make a big confusion between exploting somebody and asking for a price the company see fit, so that it's costs for production, transport, support, wage and others to be covered while being able to further develop. I have already said that they are not forcing nobody to buy anything from them. The fact that they cannot affort to sell cheaper, does not suddently make them slave owners. If there is something absurd in this discution, it is you accusing them of exploiting customers, whatever that supposed to mean.
Where do you get your information from anyway? Conspiracytheory dot com? Hmd never bought nokia, nokia was never owned by microsoft, microsoft bought only the devices devision from them and the right to use Lumia name on their new to come devices together with nokia factories that were in china. Factories that afterwards were sold by MS to Foxconn, their is no coincidence that Foxconn had a sudden knowledge on how to properly build mobile devices. NOKIA and hmd are two different companies, nokia holding for about 10% shares in hmd (well status from 3 years ago). hmd is Licensing Nokia Name and patents for 10 years, in 2027 the license should expire if NOKIA does not want to license their name to hmd any further, i doubt that tough.
Nokia is now full on enterprise developement, drons, networks and network devices and was never bankrupt, as many of you like to think. They are actually doing great after they sold the mobile devision to microsoft. Not that i support what they did back then, but was a necessary evil needed to be done to keep the company alive, after microsoft made sure that the company's devices devision is cheap on sale.
So i do not know what you "google" there, but for sure you find only the Incorrect information. So, i would say that at the moment, you have more to learn from me than i can learn from you 😉.
- 08 Mar 2023
Carol, 08 Mar 2023I do not know what you're talking about, G400 is more ... moreAgain, WOW, you do the same thing to defend, champion Nokia. You always take opportunity by taking Chinese mobiles into consideration to defend Nokia devices. For God's sake stop comparing Nokia with Chinese counterparts to defend everything they do. You can't escape by saying that you don't know things which makes your argument unhealthy and absurd. You may refer GSMarena for the specs of the said devices Nokia C22 and C32 in my last message or you may check Nokia's website for clarity. Hope you are aware that you are writing in a public opinion column. Our whole world reads our messages.
First of all, I am not speaking for myself but, for the sake of our world. I am not only a patriot of my country but, a patriot of our Globe. For your information, I am capable enough to buy any device in the market including that of Apple's. But, I will not waste my money even in my dreams on these fancy gadgets. My computer can do my jobs, better than these fancy gadgets. For me, a mobile is just a tool to handle day to day tasks on the go and for calling and texting WITH EASE. For this I need a decent hardware like Snapdragon 480 or 695. But, at the same time it is really absurd to pay the asking price of Nokia X30 or G60 just for the sake of HMD. For your information, I know to choose my mobile.
Secondly, I spoke only about Nokia devices which launched with Android 12 and 13. Hope you are aware that Nokia G400 launched with Android 12. Other devices you mentioned like Nokia X10 launched with Android 11. Also, the said devices X10, etc., are not available in all countries.
I don't understand, what do you mean by "G22 hardware a step forward in hardware criteria". Please explain with references.
If you find it difficult to answer my genuine questions, then you would go tired naturally. I don't need anything cheap or free but, at the same time is it right for HMD to exploit consumers by asking to pay more for a simple hardware? Ask your beloved HMD to launch Nokia G400 globally for the same price as they have priced it. I will be pleased to pay their asking price. If HMD has released this G400 globally, I will not be here to speak about this device. To put it correctly, you DEFEND HMD's pricing by insulting me by saying that I am asking it for free. Again you defend them by saying that they don't run a charity show. Do you mean to say that it is ethical to exploit consumers to pay their bills? Again you say that HMD is a small company. Why don't you Google it to see the range of their businesses? If they aren't capable they couldn't have bought NOKIA from MICROSOFT. Since they use Google's Android doesn't mean that they are small. Even Microsoft uses Android. Just because Google provides Android services doesn't mean that Google is the only largest organisation in the world.
You've said that you write here to learn more. But, I don't feel so because you don't seem to accept facts and figures. Let me retire for God's sake. Take care. Bye.
- 08 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023WOW Well. It seems you are here exactly, to defend HMD. The... moreI do not know what you're talking about, G400 is more then a year old, closer to x10, x20, xr20 and g50, and they all have an SD CPU. Letting the even older ones out of the discution. Yeah their recent entry level devices are using unisoc or whatever other low-end cpu, but well, they are cheap.
I do not support the g22 release with android 13 but well... it is a step forward in hardware criteria. I do not know if the other devices you listed are really launching with android 13, i mostly do not care about low end devices, they are not something i would buy no matter what.
Anyway, am kind of tired answering everything you just said, but what clear is, is that you want everything cheap, free if possible. Sorry but they also need money and the workers olso need a wage to live from. So they are yeah no charity company. I find all their devices to be ok priced, except for x30 that's a bit on the pricier side. But take a look at xiaomi, a copy paste company, that now sale's phones for 1500€. hmd's nokia devices might be a bit more expensive, but there are a hack lot of reasons behind this. From thr fact that it is a small company to the fact that their OS is clean of trakers, ads and other implementations chinese companies insert into their devices to be able to sell cheap. We talk ethics, morals and principles here, plus support. So yeah they do not cost a bit more just because of clean OS, but also because of the fact that they make no "after sale" income as most of the other brands, and still offer longer support for longer the most of them brands. The decision is yours for what you buy, infested OS with lack of support or clean OS. Nobody forces you to buy any of them, and you can't force them either to sell cheap just because you find them expensive.
- 07 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023Of course there are devices that can be considered better, ... moreWOW Well. It seems you are here exactly, to defend HMD. There is nothing wrong in it. Might be true that you work for them. So now, you want me to troll constructively.
Let me ask you a genuine question. Of all HMD's latest lineups with Android 12, every mobile other than their Nokia G60, X30 and G400 employ a non-Qualcomm SOC, the best budget friendly being G400 which is priced ethically by HMD but, is reserved only to T-Mobile. HMD only wants to sell their overpriced Qualcomm variants globally by taking pride in saying everything as you say. All the other mobiles with Android 12 are just basic entry level mobiles. Though these mobiles are also priced higher relative to competition, it is admissible since HMD employs bloatware free Stock Android. Now, HMD has launched their Nokia G22 with Android 12 instead of Android 13 to escape Android 15 update, which is clear without a doubt just because their other two budget lineups, their Nokia C22 and C32 has been launched with Android 13.
To be precise, I love Stock Android but, with a decent spec sheet like Nokia G400. To be precise Google Pixel 6a and Nothing Phone 1 are best value for money devices than Nokia X30 in every aspect. For your information, I will definitely buy Nokia G400 if it is launched globally. But, it will never happen. Even if it happens, it will not fall in the same budget class.
Above all, I know the reason why HMD is not releasing a budget friendly device with a Qualcomm processor, globally. Because, they believe that it will cannibalise the sales of their other budget variants. But, the fact is that, this belief only accounts to lost sales of HMD, by losing their sales to competition. Consumers who need Qualcomm processors are indirectly forced by HMD to look for competing brands.. Some might prefer other budget variants of HMD if they value Stock Android more than Qualcomm processors. I think, I have to live only with Nokia G22, if my budget is low and if I prefer only Stock Android because, there is no other choice left with Nokia lineups. But, if I sacrifice this bloatware free Stock Android preference, I have plenty of mobiles with Qualcomm processors from different brands.
Stock Android doesn't mean that it is highly secured because, Android is not a secured OS and can't become secured until it becomes a closed eco OS like iOS. Stock Android (with Android One) is just a bloatware free Android User Interface. If competition chooses to adopt this style Nokia will be thrown out of the game.
By looking at all Nokia lineups, it makes me to conclude that either HMD will release a Qualcomm based mobile priced heavily or release only a budget friendly non-Qualcomm based mobile.
- 07 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023You too just say nothing. You just keep on praising this mo... moreOf course there are devices that can be considered better, and of course that every person has other needs, and likings, that does not mean that anyone can talk crapp everywhere he/she wants, about a device that the person never used, without being confrunted. This kind of unconstructive trolling gets on my nerves, that is why i always comment when there is to comment no matter what brand or section. Ever seen me unlishing believes/ opinions and my experiences with this device in Chinese brands comment sections? Or whatever other? Nope, so how am i forcing people to buy it? And you are who? The one that came here to "help" people by puting nokia down? Well, sorry but i ain't going to stop talking back to people that have nothing to say but "opinions" based on whom ever pay them or out of desire for trolling. I also never praised this device, i just said what it does, and how good it is at doing that, if that hurt your trolling side, i'm sorry. Unlike you, i am NOT here to convince anyone of anything, i am here to learn about new devices and sometimes to learn from others, even tough i barely find someone able to do constructive criticism this days. Besides specs zombies and trolls, there is nothing left.
Last but not least, i do not buy nokia devices because i consider them better then anything else, i buy them because i want a clean OS with a lot of support and mostly, because i want to support the company out of own principles. If this bothers you, something clearly to be seen, well then you'll have to live with it, and live with the fact that not everybody shares your "opinion" about nokia devices. When you troll a device in it's comment section, you'll almost always be confrunted, if you can't handle that, well, stop trolling. And if you can't handle a discution and opinion differencies, well stop commenting all together.
- 07 Mar 2023
Carol, 07 Mar 2023You just said nothing... The device holds it's charge ... moreYou too just say nothing. You just keep on praising this mobile all the time as if you are the Marking Chief of HMD. Why don't you allow others to covey their beliefs, opinions or experiences whether it is Good or Bad? If someone say something bad about this device, you simply jump in. Is it right to say that there are no better mobiles other than Nokia X30? To be honest there are plenty of mobiles which are better than this mobile. Also, the asking price, also counts. Not everyone in this world can be as rich as you. Even if they are rich, you can't force anyone to expend their money on this mobile. You can't force anyone to taste everything you like. You have said and praised enough of this mobile. Hence, Thank you very much for all your valuable opinions. Now, please allow others to covey their opinions.
- 07 Mar 2023
toddluvzgta, 04 Mar 2023Like I whined about earlier on the threads under this phone... moreYou just said nothing... The device holds it's charge for about 10 hours of continuous usage./screen on time. Not great, but good enough to geht anybody throughout the day.
- 04 Mar 2023
Like I whined about earlier on the threads under this phone, the batteries inside these Nokia's are weak ah.
Yes Nokia provides three years of updates, but the assurance of the durability of the Nokia phone in question is all still coming from a Finno-centric standpoint.
You would have to hibernate or like work a 6-hour workday everyday like these Finns, for the battery to still be in good shape at the end of the 2nd year of use if you haven't sold it off yet. Or you would have to be a real casual user of the phone and not heavily relying on it to get through the day.
I am somewhat miffed that the battery is this weak as I am on the go but waiting for my 5.4 to be charged to a reasonable percentage as I type this. I am not so sure about the 8.3 released around the same time but I would not be willing to pay that much more for another Nokia (albeit with a 5G chip) with just slightly better specs and a slightly better battery.
- 04 Mar 2023
Minu, 02 Mar 2023It's never too late imho. Some of my friends that use... moreI use my computer as my backup device.
- 03 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 03 Mar 2023Maybe not so fortune people have no need for an iphone. ...... moreTgis is not about what it does or nor, it is about company ethicy.
- 03 Mar 2023
Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah sadly apple does not have the ethics and mentality tha... moreMaybe not so fortune people have no need for an iphone. ...
what does it do that 200 cheap desktop and a 100 dollar camera can not ?
- 02 Mar 2023
Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah, apple is knowm for introducing some "slowdowns&q... moreIt's never too late imho.
Some of my friends that use Apple phones use Nokia phones as backup devices, especially the trusty old 6.2 and 7.2. Why? All because of barebones stock android that works fine.
Some others, especially those who use Samsung phones as their backup phone, change their phone nearly every year or two. Even if the older model works well enough, that's a waste of money for sure. And that's supposedly the brand known for giving consistent cumulative updates for the longest time.
Suggest your friends using Apple to get a Nokia as a backup phone. They wouldn't regret it at all.
- 02 Mar 2023
Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah, well as long as there are people lacking personality,... moreSadly yeah
The average consumer the bulk of the money isn't phone who care about much other than how a phone looks or how popular it is
The media will hype and do payed reviews that never help
Saying we need all screen phone fashion trend
Old features are not needed etc
Like every Chinese brand is a wannabe iPhone
But even Samsung & Google ever brand does some more so even others
Basically pear pressure too confirm too the standard of being a iPhone
All rousted by tech industry payed reviewers
It's what there payed too do
Some of them are getting better and seeing the problems unfold
as I doubt even they want a clood based os phone only that is portless e-sim no pay monthly service too use but not own
They only want camera too be as they all like make videos 24/7 and payed for ads and promotions
So with most the market and popular opinion being fashion trend people where most the money is
Yea people who miss use tech products as u say tech can always be used for evil
Mainstream phone market might actually be doomed
That's sad as the brands people come too like start liking getting worse over time overall
There is some good
Some tech reviews are actually good and
do very helpful reviews on technology and more in depth honest reviews and advise
I think people like myself might have really had a impact on the market
As I have in a way really put tech reviewers on the hot seat