Apple iPhone 12 Pro review

3 November 2020


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Anonymous, 04 Nov 2020I really don't understand how GSMArena can find issues... moreSo you are the grasshopper that complains about grass not being rendered properly in every thread?
In every other area, Android flagships with bigger camera sensors outperforming iPhone camera in almost every department.
Big sensor Quadbayers are overall way better than 12mp tiny sensors.

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    Anonymous, 04 Nov 2020First of all The game is better optimized for mobile phones... moreIt's probably just bad optimisation for the game but still, the thermals on the iPhone are almost non-existent. Maybe iOS 14.2 will improve things slightly.

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      dude111, 04 Nov 2020No, it would not. That game is really demanding. Not even ... moreI have heard a few SD865 Android phones able to render the game smoothly at maximum settings, but it does get very hot. Like the Mi 10 Pro. Some Android users might have to tweak the phone's GPU drivers as well.

        obviously millions don't care, and they will buy regardless, I still cant get over that in late 2020 they still have that silly annoying notch.

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          • 04 Nov 2020

          Fair and balanced review.

          Don't know which person(s) from your team did this, but this is the format that needs to be followed for every phone.

            Bobby, 04 Nov 2020battery long last for 3 hours of gaming and you should buy ... moreLaughing with my x2 Pro by oppo

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              iOS Never Again, 04 Nov 2020Quad Bayer has downsides? Sure but most of them have been a... moreI really don't understand how GSMArena can find issues about the grass and foliage when the iPhone renders them much more naturally than either Huawei or Xiaomi, based on the sample image from the latest reviews here. Look at the snail photo and the colors of the iPhone are much more natural than Huawei's, and the iPhone detail seems better than Xiaomi's.

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                Anonymous, 04 Nov 2020Apple only knows how to design their CPUs with large cache ... moreI just checked the speed test of iphone 12 pro with a SD 865+ device . Iphone only rendered video quickly than the sd one. Other than that every game and app loaded quicker on the SD device. Specially gam took much more time on iphone . So benchmark really don't mean anything.

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                  Sony sony , 04 Nov 2020Why there is no alternative comparisson to other phone,, li... moreYe Right, 6 gb RAM vs 16gb RAM, 90hz Screen vs 120hz Screen. Just look at the mate 40 pro

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                    Anonymous, 03 Nov 2020Lol. 128GB 6GB RAM 1000 $... Not 256GB 12 GB like phones of... moreHow much RAM do You use?

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                      iOS Never Again, 04 Nov 2020Quad Bayer has downsides? Sure but most of them have been a... moreXperia with 120 Hz screens = X, X Performance, XZ, XZs, XZ Premium, XZ1, XZ1 Compact, XA1, XA1 Ultra, XA1 Plus, XA2, XA2 Plus, XA2 Ultra, XZ2, XZ2 Compact, 10, 10 Plus, 8, 8 Lite, 10 ii, 1, 5, 1ii and 5ii

                      Xperia with 144Hz = XZ2 Premium

                      Basically, since 2016 all phones except E5, L series, R series (India only) and X Compact. Ask people from XDA in case you do not believe, or just google this "XZ Premium 120Hz screen" and read articles.

                      Sony Mobile already made clear they have zero interest in Quadbayer. They could easily have access to the tech if they wanted to. Sony does not even use for their own photo/video cameras. None of the other cam brands had interest in this tech.

                      - Quadbayer has slower readout , what would not allow the burst with AF (only xperia uses AF while doing burst mode) 20fps.
                      - Quadbayer has tons of artifacts at full resolution.
                      - Quadbayer has smaller light absorbing surface area than Bayer of same size.
                      - more MP gives more details and chance to record 6K and 8K, but introduces more rolling shutter for 4K because sensor is slower.

                        The so-called telephoto is not a telephoto lens, but what on a camera is a "normal" lens of about 50mm. I have searched and looked carefully at full resolution samples on Dpreview already for these cameras and the results in Jpeg are DREADFUL. Indeed they are not as good, due to sharpening and noise reduction as the results from my Nokia N8. Nokias dont sharpen jpegs and wreck them. Do you actually DO images from RAW files here?

                          Anonymous, 04 Nov 2020Quadbayer sensors have downsides. If you knew, you would ... moreQuad Bayer has downsides? Sure but most of them have been actively fixed over the years with clever algorithms.
                          The Huawei Mate 40 and P40 series along with Mi 10 ultra have the best camera on the market.All using Quad Bayer as their main sensor.
                          What will you do when Sony puts Quad Bayer sensor as main cam on their phones?
                          Just like your jaw was shut tight when Sony gave 120hz on Sony phones.

                            Beethoven, 04 Nov 2020Im just fair 😂 Everyone's curse exynos and note 20. A... moreWhen Exynos throttles, everyone starts bashing it and when IPhone throttles, they are making excuses about cpu scheduler.
                            The truth is that no amount of cpu scheduler tweaks will prevent thermal throttling as there is no proper cooling like vapor chamber technology.
                            5nm Architecture cpu is probably operating with 5nm cooling pad as well.

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                              dude111, 04 Nov 2020No, it would not. That game is really demanding. Not even ... moreFirst of all The game is better optimized for mobile phones than consoles.
                              Secondly, Snapdragon 865 devices have absolutely no problems as the A14 with those games.

                              Besides Apple A14 is also lagging in other heavy games like Shadowgun Legends, The Elderscrolls Blades apart from Genshin Impact.

                                Poma, 04 Nov 2020can anybody tell me how does gsmarena test bitrate for vide... moreYou mean at which bitrate X phone records, or if it maintains it?

                                Much of the time they do talk about the first one, but rarely they check out if it can sustain that bitrate (I remember that some huawei phones didn't).
                                From the iphone 8 plus review (which is still valid for at least the 11 gen in my experience):

                                "The H.264 4K videos carry a bitrate of around 46Mbps, but audio is recorded in mono at 96Kbps in AAC format...

                                The 1080p videos at 30fps have a bitrate of 16 Mbps, keeping the same audio, while the 60fps ones came out with 23Mbps bitrate.

                                The H.265 4K videos at 60fps carry a bitrate of 54Mbps, while the audio is still mono. The 4K at 30fps clips are captured at 24Mbps - half the H.264 ones. The 1080p 30 and 60fps bitrate are also halved at 8.5 and 12.5 Mbps respectively."

                                  MrHong, 04 Nov 2020Despite it being fixed, I doubt the i12 can run smoothly in... moreNo, it would not.
                                  That game is really demanding. Not even consoles (at least the base ones) can run it smoothly at 30fps. The pro max probably wouldn't either. The ipads on the other hand might.

                                  My point was that there's been a lot of bashing based on YT videos, with no major investigation on why it's behaving like that, and given how many haters are out there (and here lolz) they prefer to monetize that absurd hate towards apple.

                                  If you want to read the thread: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/terrible-cpu-schedule-for-a14.2586687/

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                                    Max, 04 Nov 2020Why we do not see info about sensor size in latest gsmarena... more1/2.55"

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                                      At what point does the insane price begin to remove points from the review score? Not saying this is exclusive to Apple, Samsung has followed in their foot steps despite the mocking and amusing ads.

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                                        Why there is no alternative comparisson to other phone,, like which is better in terms of price, performance or quality.

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