Sony Xperia 1 III review
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 13 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021I wouldnt. You have one already, right here. Ultra 95, 1 II... moreDidn't you see the part where Mi11U was still ahead of Xperia until the end where all devices reach the second round of GFXBench loop? Also notice how the back display on Mi 11 Ultra was turned on all the time during the test, which basically nullifies the results for the said device. It's enticing to see you getting into "xiaomi bad sony gud" mode only because I said Xiaomi's post-processing is ahead of Xperia lmao.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 13 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021I mean you are coming really thick here now, with "how... moreHow does GSMArena's comment hold any relevance here? Why makes you think that their opinion on image processing matters here especially when they are the same people who saw Exynos S21's awful noise reduction s***fest and somehow had an impression that "the resolved detail is plenty, the grass looks good, the dynamic range is outstanding most of the time, and the noise is pretty much non-existent"? They are clearly talking from average smartphone users' point of view and not actually reviewing the smartphones from pure image quality standpoint.
"iToF depth sensor working on multiple focal points processing, to achieve miniscule multiple bokeh blur effects"
You know that not everyone can actually understand all the bullcrap you pulled out of nowhere at first glance, right? ToF sensor is there for more accurate AF since it can sense its exact distance from the object using laser, and depth mapping in portrait mode. If you actually think that it's used to apply faux bokeh in real time at extreme precision for every single shot taken in auto mode (that is, assuming that I'm guessing your thoughts correctly) then you don't understand how computationally infeasible it is and are simply misunderstanding its true purpose.
"Well, Xperias ones seem even better than those best they have ever seen. Better DR, detail, noise control"
Xperia has much coarser noise but less of it, there's more noise in Xiaomi's shot albeit it's finer luminance grains. The former exposes for highlights while the latter reveals more information in shadows hence comparable in dynamic range. Details are sharper on Xperia but Xiaomi covers nearly 80% wider field of view, but with night mode Xiaomi wins hands down.
I get that you're trying to disprove my points by bringing up a bunch of low light shots taken by Xiaomi without night mode (despite that not being a fair comparison at all as I've stated multiple times already). However all of the problems I brought up show up in the studio comparison tool, as well as in some parts of GSMArena's real life samples during daylight and I can easily point them out if you really want me to.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Jul 2021
Alpha, 13 Jul 2021Im still buying the phone i don't care lolIf you don't care, why are you going to buy it?
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- Alpha
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- 13 Jul 2021
Im still buying the phone i don't care lol
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021Again you are ignoring that Xperia 1 III automatically uses... moreMaybe he thought she invented it. Yes, it's a normal expression. People use it from time to time. Attacking people who use it is silly.
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- 13 Jul 2021
[deleted post]Not, 1III is less sharp overall, not some issue, its just that it got 12mp limit. With 48-108mp you get few times more information in image and thats at binned resolution, once you try hi res mode, it resolves more detail, though how much depends on brand.
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- 13 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021I mean you are coming really thick here now, with "how... moreAgain you are ignoring that Xperia 1 III automatically uses night mode pretty much in all dark scenes. Plus, the recent MIUI updates changed the behavior of the camera regarding the auto night mode and now it is also activated automatically on the ultra-wide lens too, so it makes even more sense to compare the night mode samples from Mi 11 Ultra to the samples from Xperia.
If you're not very familiar with English, 'How dare you' is a regular English expression commonly used to express the feeling of anger towards somebody else who behaves arrogantly or shows no respect to anyone but oneself. You saw Greta using that phrase during the interview, I understand, just do not namecall others for using the same phrase please.
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- ChazN
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- 13 Jul 2021
I'm still missing my broken Xperia XZ2 Compact. I hope Sony makes a new flagship compact with a form factor equal or smaller to my old XZ2 and without DRM in the operating system.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021I mean you are coming really thick here now, with "how... moreLOL. "How dare you?" is a normal rhetorical question.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Jul 2021
[deleted post]How do you know that the Xperia 1 III seems to be better when you don't have it?
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- Satti
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- 13 Jul 2021
This is available in India
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- Jboy
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- 13 Jul 2021
Sony smartphone are good. But service center is hard to find.
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- Anonymous
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- 12 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021I wouldnt. You have one already, right here. Ultra 95, 1 II... moreSo Xperia 1 III goes to 1300 nits yeah
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- 12 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2021They can sell a lot more phones if they started making $200... moreThats just because actually nobody gonna buy their entry levels and midrangers anymore anywhere except their home market
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- Tann Hauser
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- 12 Jul 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 12 Jul 2021I'd rather wait until Notebookcheck actually performs ... moreI wouldnt. You have one already, right here. Ultra 95, 1 III
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And yet, in real life performance test Xperia battery lasts longer. Must be optimisations, ya?
Imagine that.
btw, I debated your other "how dare you" reply, waiting to pass mod I guess. Might be the Greta word, probably.
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- Tann Hauser
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- 12 Jul 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 12 Jul 2021I mean, you tried to make an argument then caught a flak fo... moreI mean you are coming really thick here now, with "how dare you..." stuff, Greta.
arenas own real case photo comment:
"Daylight photos from the Xperia 1 III's main camera are really good overall. Detail is on par with other 12MP cameras, but more importantly, it's rendered in a very natural and appealing way - Sony's grass and foliage are some of the best out there. Noise is virtually non-existent in these images."
What sensor/lens/processing problems are you reading out from that comment? And those obervations are on point with actual photo images provided.
I am certain you are seriously mistaking Xperias iToF depth sensor working on multiple focal points processing, to achieve miniscule multiple bokeh blur effects, with some inhead imaginary lens/sensor/processing problems on that studio shot you always go back to.
Its a studio board with multiple protruding objects attached to it, and Sony does its multiple out of/point in focus processing there, including eye AF.
See sample, how many bokeh blur and actual focused areas, even at almost same focal distances, Xperia processing makes in real photo sample:
https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_iii-review-2287p6.php#image9
(one heck of a photo there, mind you)
Now go back to that board and apply what you learned from the visible processing up there.
Xiaomi? Im done with that one. Said everything I have to say about main sensor and night modes.
Max zoom is better there I believe, but again counterpoints...
Observe for instance widecam night samples that are best they ve ever seen:
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra/lowlight/gsmarena_001.jpg
https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_iii-review-2287p6.php#image56
Well, Xperias ones seem even better than those best they have ever seen. Better DR, detail, noise control. Yes, the thing called processing.
So please, enough with the Xiaomi already.
And Greta, also enough with those "how dare you's"
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- 12 Jul 2021
I prefer high contrasty photos to 2D looking flat ones. It is realistic and breathes life into the photo. It helps the subject stand out.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 12 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021LOLs and LMAOs are the usual trll talk.
I dont debate trll... moreI mean, you tried to make an argument then caught a flak for it because you were resorting on a bunch of sophistries and frequent subject changes to prove your point.
First of all, you attempted to sweep all the issues that I brought up regarding Xperia's post processing by claiming that it's due to different AF methods being used, which is seriously a terrible way of defence - if the chart was out of focus, how could the centre along with many other sections of the frame be perfectly crisp? How hard was it for you to admit that they are real issues and cease the discussion with something like "True, I wish they will improve those parts in future"?
Then you nagged about how Xiaomi's image processing is messing up details in the most challenging situation when it's literally caused by GSMArena disabling the night mode manually, while completely neglecting the fact that Xperia automatically activates a somewhat similar long exposure stacking in poor lighting conditions.. and now you have an audacity to call others a troll? Like how actually dare you? I really don't want to believe what I'm seeing.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 12 Jul 2021
Tann Hauser, 12 Jul 2021Even the batterylife is on Xperias side in that duel. Ultr... moreI'd rather wait until Notebookcheck actually performs their usual battery runtime test in a controlled environment.
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- AnonD-937325
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- 12 Jul 2021
Beauty lies in its simplicity.
Cameras, albeit not the best, are good, a talented photographer can create masterpieces with it using the Pro features it has and the camera setup covers what a photographer needs most. It doesn't have gimmicky macro and depth cameras and it does have variable optical zoom, which will be the future of smartphones in my opinion. The best is that it doesn't have an obnoxious camera bump, it just has a slim and stylish camera island.
Checking the comparison videos YouTuber Technick made this week, I saw that this phone is much faster than I thought, it can even rival to iPhone. I think it's because of Sony's smooth, simple UI, which is free from bloatwares. The speakers are also quite good, the voice is clear although not very loud. The assertion that it has world's first 4K 120 Hz display is just a bad marketing lie given that you can only use 120 Hz in 1080p resolution, that's why I wouldn't buy this over 5 III.
But overall, this phone has much more than the numbers that other brands (ehm, Samsung and Xiaomi) continuously brag about. Congrulations Sony!