Which cameraphone is king of natural bokeh?
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 23 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 23 Jun 202250m away? Where did you see such a photo? LOLSports and wildlife.
Those giant lenses (as big as arms) with 400, 600, 800mm.
The background will have huge blur, no matter how far subject is.
Those lenses used to shoot soccer, NFL, birds etc ..
Unlike phones that background has blur only when subject is close. This is why they have the "portrait mode" to create blur by using software. Obviously they all fail since issues are same always with blurred areas cutting parts of subject (ears, shoulders, hair, fingers)
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- Anonymous
- vjX
- 23 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2022None of them. They cant blur background unless subject is c... more50m away? Where did you see such a photo? LOL
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- Anonymous
- gBV
- 23 Jun 2022
It is very easy to calculate which camera produces the highest amount of background blur (distant background) for a given subject size. One just needs to look at the effective aperture diameter of the lens. The Huawei Mate 40 Pro Plus periscope camera has 6.5mm, no other smartphone has more. But the 240mm field of view is not great for portraits. 100mm is better for portraits.
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- Anonymous
- gBV
- 23 Jun 2022
It surely doesn't make sense to relate the circle of confusion to the pixel size, when you compare the background blur of cameras that have a different megapixel count...
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- Rkm
- ypc
- 23 Jun 2022
travis999, 23 Jun 2022Or you could just try to become a better photographer so yo... moreOk, then be a better photographer and tell us how to take a portrait without 'Bokeh' from a 85mm full frame/apsc at f/1.8
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 23 Jun 2022
No surprise samsung was the last.
Needs new supplier, instead of using same that supplies Apple.
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- susu
- tui
- 23 Jun 2022
vivo x80 pro will be better?
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- Rkm
- ypc
- 23 Jun 2022
Nice, now make the telephoto portrait a permanent thing in actual reviews . Not really for the blur,but for seeing how pleasing it is.
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- Cx@
- 23 Jun 2022
travis999, 23 Jun 2022Your poor,sad fools. Please explain why you are so keen on... moreI like bokeh it gives phot 3D look and feeling
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- Mikey
- n%e
- 23 Jun 2022
Random question, are you guys planning to do a flagship camera comparison anytime soon? It's been two years since your last one, which was incredibly detailed and informative.
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- 0x5
- 23 Jun 2022
Wongwatt, 23 Jun 2022Bokeh is used in smartphones to justify all those pointless... morewe just have to accept phone image quality as a phone and not to be "pretend to look a like" real full frame or even medium format camera. That will never replace those.
As actually digital cameras never replaced film camera's too:) some things cannot be faked or matched entirely.
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- Wongwatt
- StU
- 23 Jun 2022
Bokeh is used in smartphones to justify all those pointless people pictures posted on social media.
You wouldn’t have to hide the background in artsy blur if there was something worth looking at back there!
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- MRSTEK
- Eq1
- 23 Jun 2022
oh, 23 Jun 2022Bokeh is a definition of the aesthetic quality of the blur ... moreYes. I remembered using some of my grandfather's old Russian lens, they were poor in quality but can produce a distinctive swirly bokeh. I thought those kind of bokeh really represents building quality, it is pretty uncommon on modern lens.
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 23 Jun 2022
Did you convert the f to FF equivalent and also considered sensors size? Because the angle is already.
The way math is described here loos like it was done considering all sensors were equal across different phones.
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- MRSTEK
- Eq1
- 23 Jun 2022
travis999, 23 Jun 2022Your poor,sad fools.
Please explain why you are so keen on... moreAh I remembered using some of my grandfather's Russian (maybe USSR) lens. They were cheap, easy to acquire in east Asia, could produce a distinctive swirly bokeh. However, those lens are normally poor in quality.
I am not a professional photographer but I asked one of my friends working in film industry. He told me that it could not be desirable to produce strong bokeh effect if you want people to focus attention on the main object.
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 23 Jun 2022
None of them. They cant blur background unless subject is close, like 1,5m at most.
Software blur will never match optical, something cameras can do even if subject is 50m away.
To achieve this, phones would need to use something like 1/1.3" 135mm f0.5 , instead of 1/2" f3.6.
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- 0x5
- 23 Jun 2022
MRSTEK, 23 Jun 2022I think normally they want to call "very very shallow ... moreBokeh is a definition of the aesthetic quality of the blur produced in out-of-focus parts of an image. So its a term which sits besides shallow deph of field. And pretty to say, when you imagine bokeh from a nice FF lens its uncomparable to phones, as I do prefer to say bokeh kinda does not exist on phones as fully :)) But in reality, it is, just its generic:)
And that poor person, who keeps anger at boheh, what a poor soul guy
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- 0x5
- 23 Jun 2022
Very nice article, finally! even if the number of units in comparision could have been more :) many models missing though. And could have been even more in deph, but still, anyway, nobody touched this topic so much.
I even would say, it would be useful to include it in subsequent telephone reviews as a point of analysis for the camera, assessing the depth of field comparison of the main and other existing cameras with a number of selected "market standards - analogues". At a certain distance, such as 40cm and 1m (when shooting a portrait). For a market standard I would suspect Iphone 13PM with 26mm and that new ZTE Axon with 35mm lens, as they do provide one of nicest shallow deph of field on phones. Also Vivo X80 Pro looks great, having just too wide 23mm lens though..