vivo X90 Pro review
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- 19 Feb 2023
LV426, 19 Feb 2023Im using Oly em1 mk3 and quality is ofc another level, anot... moreThe rendering engines of modern post production softwares are really good. Adobe, capture one etc have much better sharpening and denoising algorithms than phones. Dxo photolab, topaz denoise etc can create clean images from old point and shoot raws which were shot at high iso. So, it's always nice to have a good usable raw during challenging conditions when you only have the phone with you and don't want to let go of the moment.
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Leica Authentic mode, Zeiss mode etc are pretty dope and it's time that big guys like Samsung, Apple etc adapt it and give the users a choice. These can be easily done via software. Even if they don't get it right on the first go, it can be easily be fine tuned via updates.
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PepperPot, 19 Feb 2023A tough challenge? Where? Not in America and I doubt peop... moreGood point - 99% people dont care sw updates, they even dont care anything... They just buy "Samsung" for example coz someone said its good, just sherps most of them.
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TheFoneBear, 19 Feb 2023Chinese vendors pump out one of the best phones but somethi... moreA tough challenge? Where? Not in America and I doubt people in China are buying the pixel. Chinese branded phones don't have an identity with the average buyer here. They're all just considered Chinese phones. Also, most people in the states buy phones on contract and none of these vendors have relationships with carriers.
You guys have been tricked into believing the average consumer cares about software updates. They don't. It's a talking point for tech tubers and people that follow daily tech news. It's also just another point to bring an argument to a close. Just like the point about being stuck in Apple's ecosystem. Apple people love having all their devices under one brand. They just say they're "stuck" to get maniac droid fans off their backs.
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zakelwe, 19 Feb 2023Cameras, and I have a Sony A5100 with 3 lens, Sigma 30mm, ... moreYes phone for casual milion nonsense photos and real cam for real photography.
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LV426, 19 Feb 2023Im using Oly em1 mk3 and quality is ofc another level, anot... moreCameras, and I have a Sony A5100 with 3 lens, Sigma 30mm, Sigma 40mm and Sony 210 zoom are far better than any phone camera at taking photos.
I use my sigma 40 for taking food photos and I could never do that on a phone.
The thing is
YOU NEED BOTH
Because we want our handy phone that fits into our pocket to be there when we need it
The main thing on phones going forward will only be the camera(s) and AI to distinguish it from the crowd.
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- 19 Feb 2023
Chinese vendors pump out one of the best phones but something happens in software side, lack of support lifecycle and frequent updates for a long duration. Only if they'd fix their internal policies about software updates and Google Pixels would face a tough challenge.
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Nick Tegrataker, 19 Feb 2023I use a mirrorless too (Although to be fair, I'm using... moreIm using Oly em1 mk3 and quality is ofc another level, another galaxy than smartphones. And thats just micro 4/3 only. Ye its nice to have acceptable quality for small displays in your pocket but when u want serious nice photos u just take camera, real camera, not phone. So i dont understand too why some people wasting time with raw etc on smartphones. Results will bad anyway. Its like trying to make race car from Golf tdi.
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- 19 Feb 2023
Anonymous, 19 Feb 2023Rx100 make muchbetter photos than any phone and rx100 is ba... morerx100 is really bad too, at least with a phone you can use google camera port and get some decent quality results.
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- 19 Feb 2023
Nick Tegrataker, 19 Feb 2023I use a mirrorless too (Although to be fair, I'm using... moreLol let go of your a6000 get a6100. The jpeg color science on a6000 is kinda terrible and raw is compressed so hard that it's always green tinted, not worth it
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Fa14bi, 19 Feb 2023Those phones here today have the same camera sensor size as... moreRx100 make muchbetter photos than any phone and rx100 is basic camera.
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Anonymous, 19 Feb 2023Dude smartphone today will always very bad quality, raw or ... moreI use a mirrorless too (Although to be fair, I'm using a second-hand a6000 - arguably a very dated body which I will probably replace soon), but there are times when I can't use it or take it out of my bag for a reason - In these situations, I definitely wish I had a better phone camera.
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- 19 Feb 2023
Anonymous, 19 Feb 2023Dude smartphone today will always very bad quality, raw or ... moreThose phones here today have the same camera sensor size as cameras like the Sony RX100
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Anonymous, 19 Feb 2023I use shutter bit slower than necessary , then later ( ligh... more"I use shutter bit slower than necessary , then later ( lightroom) bring down exposure"
Yes, if the scene is evenly exposed, that will definitely work - otherwise, you're just blowing out the highlights and losing all the information in these areas. Stacked RAW solves this problem by combining multiple exposures to capture information from both the deepest shadows and brightest highlights of the image, which is why I think it's a superior method as long as the stacking algorithms do a good job aligning frames while compensating for movements (Google's HDR+ is very proficient in this regard).
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Nick Tegrataker, 19 Feb 2023When stacking frames, you're effectively increasing th... moreDude smartphone today will always very bad quality, raw or dont. I mean compare to cameras. 99,9999 people just take photos in auto mode and dont care. I think its absolutly nonsense talking abou raw etc in smartphones with very bad senzors and low optics.
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Anonymous, 19 Feb 2023Raw is already the highest DR sensor is capable of physical... moreWhen stacking frames, you're effectively increasing the dynamic range by making the image less noisy and shadows more recoverable.
An option to shoot stacked RAW is becoming more common in smartphone cameras. Both official and unofficial GCam apps have been having that for years, Vivo and Oppo have their own implementation of stacked RAW (Called SuperRAW and RAW+, respectively), Samsung has ExpertRAW app to do pretty much the same, and even Apple gives you the ability to shoot in ProRAW where you can also choose to shoot in 48MP (which is actually pretty great detail wise).
While Samsung and Apple add some processing (which is far from ideal), at least compared to the single-frame counterparts, their multi-frame RAW files give you the leeway to edit the photos more flexibly.
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P C M, 19 Feb 2023That's funny. You're talking about talking photos... moreNo. Its abou Pixel, iPhone and now 1" phones.. Samsung is just oversharpened, oversatured crap, always been..
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YUKI93, 19 Feb 2023Only the Pro+ version is not available outside China. The P... moreNot everywhere
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Anonymous, 19 Feb 2023Auto trigger keeps you to start when you want. What if you... moreHave you ever used the 960fps slow-mo on a smartphone before? It becomes extremely challenging when you only have less than 0.2s of recording time while also being limited by your own reflex speed, and the moment you want to capture will pass in a fraction of a second and might never come to you again. Also, this is something that I just found out too, but Samsung's camera app does seem to have a "manual" capture mode for super slow-mo.
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00079225/
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YUKI93, 19 Feb 2023"We tested the vivo X90 Pro across various games, and ... moreTrue. I saw many other tests and everyone say same, perfect thermal results.