Sony Xperia 1 V review
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- Anonymous
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- 15 May 2023
I am not convinced that back is glass. If you scratch it, it makes same sound plastic would.
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- Jonnyboy
- HBq
- 15 May 2023
I also want to highlight two more things towards the camera like feeling of this phone. At first it can shoot RAW. Correct me if I am wrong but I think that the Samsung galaxy S23 Ultra can't. In any case, shooting at RAW is not the rule for all the camera phones out there. It means you can post process the image for further improvement. Also it has lenses made of glass instead of plastic. An element that adds in sharpness.
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- Anonymous
- sXb
- 15 May 2023
Wisenam, 13 May 2023No charger no usb cable,reasons for me not to buy I never ... moreSo funny. You'd spend €1400 on the phone, but a few € for a charger is too much? You don't have a charger already? And not even a USB cable? I guess you don't have a phone at all then!
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- Anonymous
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- 15 May 2023
Nick Tegrataker, 15 May 2023Not to mention this 48MP (I know it's 52MP but I'... moreA7s3 is 48 advertised as 12.
GH6 is 100MP , advertised as 20 (100 is just with pixel shift , not QB to bayer mode).
If I am not wrong, Fuji X-H2s is QB too, but advertised as 26MP.
It is not sony electronics exclusivity.
All these phones have to choose between 48/50MP 10bit or 12/12.5MP 12bit (in case you doubt it, just check papers from sony semicon about any very known sensor).
This is how all sensors works. Sony Electronics has made choice for second option.
Any high res above 10bit is by software, not hardware.
Another reason none of them want high res bayer.
Also, the readout at 48 is surely way slower than 12. That would impact the AF features since it does not have A1 sensor speed (no phone has) .
It is all about the priorities each brand has. I imagine similar reason why pixel does not allow 50MP at 1x.
BTW, DPR is still publishing stuff somehow.
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- NeverPayOver1000eur
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- 15 May 2023
[deleted post]At least I don't need 4 accounts with the same names to get my point across mate. In any case I'm happy to report each of them for trolling, until you learn how to behave normally here.
I stand by what I said about Xperia devices. My first Xperia XZP had 33% of the left side of the lens completely blurry in every photo. Replacing it lost me a phone for 4 weeks. Then it came back with 10% of the lens damaged.
Second Xperia, the Pro-i had an amazing camera but the screen was defective. It wasn't properly joined to the display screen, so the blacks were totally crushed and the dynamic range was completely broken. They replaced the screen and broke/disconnected my ultrawide camera. It just totally disappeared from the camera app. The company I got it from took all of them off their catalogue, I had bought the last one they had in stock anyway but they said almost everyone had complained about the phone. For €1800 it was just an expensive brick. I swapped it for the S22U which was also a garbage phone, much worse camera but at least better phone.
I wonder if it's possible for you to have a conversation without resorting to trolling and just making pointless emoji reactions toward other comments. Let's see if you have something actually intelligent to say. It's cool if you like these phones, but just replying with drivel is going to get you banned.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 15 May 2023
S Yu, 15 May 2023>The 4.3:3 multi-aspect sensor has a larger area than th... moreNot to mention this 48MP (I know it's 52MP but I'm talking about the photo resolution here) sensor essentially acts as a 12MP sensor - No 48MP mode in either JPEG or RAW, and it doesn't even crop from the full resolution image when you're shooting in 2x "zoom".
Sony isn't exactly known for the most honest marketing when it comes to the image sensor specs on their phones (e.g. The "type 1" sensor on Pro-I) so it doesn't come off as a surprise to me, but nevertheless they should've just straight-up advertised it as having a 12MP sensor instead if they lock it to that binned resolution.. what they are doing right now is quite misleading to say the least.
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- Jonnyboy
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- 15 May 2023
You have to clear up in your head the target group of this smartphone. This phone is for people that do not wish to carry around a camera with interchangeable lenses but still want a camera like phone with ease of use. So it must be portable, with camera like controls. And that is exactly the case here! It's not similar to the other cameras! It has PASM, eye autofocus,it can shoot 30 shots in a second (!) ,it has focus peaking and it simulates a dedicated camera in many ways. The image quality is not the best out there. It needs improvement in low light performance. With a tripod you can compensate that aspect a bit. And you can also attach quality speakers for high quality audio. You can take a lot from something that fits into your pocket.
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- Anonymous
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- 15 May 2023
SABA, 15 May 2023X1 V disappointed more than pleased. As always, the camera... moreOversharpening ?
Get Samsung instead ?
Samsung is the king of oversharpening !
- Dr. Watson
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- 15 May 2023
NeverPayOver1000eur, 15 May 2023What the hell is Sony doing... 33W charging? Haven't y... more'Even the super weird aspect ratio was a huge problem and totally non-standard. Why did they bring it back?'
They've been using the 21:9 aspect ratio on their phone screens for the past 5 years...
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- S Yu
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- 15 May 2023
>The 4.3:3 multi-aspect sensor has a larger area than the mainstream 4:3 sensor, and this can be used to improve video stabilization.
...These people are confused. These people are severely confused. With a given diagonal, the larger the aspect ratio the smaller the area. This is not rocket science, it's primary school math.
Among other factual mistakes.
And given the unwarranted hype over almost everything about this model and the usually forgiving tone regarding the glaring shortcomings(e.g. still no DRR??) one has to suspect something fishy here.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 15 May 2023
NeverPayOver1000eur, 15 May 2023This literally sums up my feelings with Sony. I had their X... moreI like how your comment is being reaction-bombed by presumably a single person who uses 4 different user accounts.
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 15 May 2023
Sony says the new main camera on Xperia 1 V has "double the low-light performance" compared to the one on Xperia IV - But one important detail that needs to be noted is that the sensor area itself has also increased by 70%.
Taking the difference in F-stop into account, this means that the new technology only brings roughly ~60% of improvement in performance in dark scenes, which is still substantial but not as massive as Sony claimed 2 years ago when they first announced the tech.
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- Anonymous
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- 15 May 2023
SABA, 15 May 2023X1 V disappointed more than pleased. As always, the camera... moreIf 1V is overshaprened for you then I suggest not to look at P60 Pro review and its shot samples :)
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- NeverPayOver1000eur
- mr{
- 15 May 2023
proshooter, 15 May 2023Software-wise, Sony rarely evolve and improve on its usabil... moreThis literally sums up my feelings with Sony. I had their Xperia XZ Premium and it was a beast of a phone back then. Single sensor absolutely destroyed everything. Though I had to return my first one too because 33% of the lens on the left-side was defective and made all of my photos turn out totally blurry when I compared with others on Reddit and XDA. When I got it back, it was more like 10% of the left side that was blurry, so I just left it. My ex got it as a hand-me-down after 1 year. Otherwise I loved that phone. Didn't even care that the bezels were massive. It was a joy to shoot photos with.
Xperia Pro-i was next. Huge disappointment. Amazing, amazing, amazing camera. Utterly garbage phone attached. Overheating in 5 minutes, throttling immediately. Crashing camera app. Both vlog screens DOA. Accessories were far too expensive. Support was horrible and the screen (which seems to be the same on this phone) had completely crushed blacks and broken dynamic range. I sent it to get fixed and they returned it with a disconnected ultrawide sensor and thought I would not notice... The returned phone had very visible residue from the re-gluing still visible under the corners of the screen.
I complained to my provider and they sent it back and took all of the phones off the shelf and discontinued sales because they had so many dissatisfied customers. I moved to the S22 Ultra but with it's Exynos 2200 it was arguably a worse phone even... the camera was total garbage compared to the Pro-i, although everything else was better. It still throttled a lot though.
Sony really needs to do something. They have some really amazing ideas but they fail so badly at the execution. Put proper fast charging in the phone and figure out better cooling so you can. Cut the price by at least 10-15% too.
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- NeverPayOver1000eur
- mr{
- 15 May 2023
What the hell is Sony doing... 33W charging? Haven't you guys learned anything since the Xperia Pro-i? I loved, loved, loved the camera on the Pro-i. I absolutely hated the phone on the camera though... Worst charging I've ever seen. It overheated every 5 seconds. Throttled in the camera and video and the Vlog screen also didn't work properly. Performance was atrocious and the phone was so uncomfortable to hold. Even the super weird aspect ratio was a huge problem and totally non-standard. Why did they bring it back?
I sent my Pro-i for repair because the OLED was completely broken and the blacks were totally crushed. I confirmed that even the cheapest LTPO I had on my other phone had proper blacks unlike the Sony. They returned the phone with broken/disconnected ultrawide... They seem to have used the exact same display, pixel-for-pixel in this phone... It's the same phone as the Pro-i basically, but this one has worse camera (except for zoom) and it looks like slower UFS storage. Major difference seems to be the upgraded selfie camera.
Sony please... what are you doing. Your alpha cameras are amazing. Totally world class. If you can't put those sensors in your phones and also ship with proper fast charging then just don't bother. You can't justify releasing this phone for 1400 euro. That is just insane. What about Vivo and Oppo which are completely revolutionising cameras. Sony do something... start by reducing the price!
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- proshooter
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- 15 May 2023
SuuperBaka, 14 May 2023"Cons are from the Sony Xperia 1 IV, not that differen... moreSoftware-wise, Sony rarely evolve and improve on its usability and use of some of the best hardware that they themselves develop, and this has always been an issue. In fact, it's been maddening using Japanese products with some (or no) attempt at English since early 2000.
I'm just not holding my breath for the Sony Xperia 1 V after being underwhelmed by previous models over and over again.
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- SMYasir
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- 15 May 2023
Seems a great phone with sd card and 3.5 mm jack in a flagship phone !
Wow!
I have to complain about the stupid bezels
Why doesn't Sony remove bezels ?!
- Dr. Watson
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- 15 May 2023
proshooter, 14 May 2023Wow, so it beats the Huawei P60 Pro by 0.1 but with worst c... more'Here are the CONS pointed out on DXOMARK'
DXOMark has not reviewed the Xperia 1 yet. Unless you're talking about the P60.
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- SABA
- SbF
- 15 May 2023
Nick Tegrataker, 15 May 2023Eh, I would say Find X6 Pro still has the upper hand in ter... moreAgree with you!
Sony algorithms, traditionaly are weak/
1. Oversharp
2. Limited DR
3. Noice in dark shadows
4. Red tones on shots, espetialy we can see in GSMArena laboratori test shots
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- SABA
- SbF
- 15 May 2023
X1 V disappointed more than pleased. As always, the camera on the Xperia must be checked and not believed in official advertising that praises this camera. The pictures did not impress with some special detail, but rather even disappointed, because a strong oversharp is visible, especially noticeable in pictures with nature, where each leaf is very sharp and it irritates the eye. Sony telephoto camera,still very weak. And overpay for a Sony smartphone when there is a more versatile Samsung ...?