Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One: Army of two
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- AnonD-16443
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- 28 Mar 2013
I copy and repost Rob C comment on other news, because I think for ordinary people like me, this is quiet scientific to explain HTC One camera performance.
Thank you to the GSMArena Team for this Review.
I read your Review carefully, and I missed the part about how you updated your HTC with the newest Software that addresses most of the issues with the Camera.
For more Info read: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg...amer a-tested .
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One fallacy I find with the manner in which the Camera was reviewed (other than the Software Update) is best explained thusly.
Assume two Cameras both with identical Sensors but one has a 4x Zoom (for argument sake, the HTC One) and the other has a 8x Zoom (for argument sake, the Nokia Lumia 920).
You then go on to explain that whether you held the Camera in your right hand or your left hand, indeed even standing on your head, the Nokia consistently produced images that seemed twice as close as the HTC, (ignoring the effect of the Zoom after acknowledging it's existence).
Similarly you stand in one spot, take two Photos, and say the Camera with the higher megapixels resolves more detail.
Just like with a smaller Zoom Lens when you have fewer megapixels you need to take a step or two closer to your Subject (assuming your subject is close) or move the Digital Zoom to 2x (on the HTC) assuming the Subject is far away.
You can Google for the words: "zoom Lens take a step forward" and read that you do not need to buy a few different Zoom Lenses for your Camera and that most People can get by with a couple of Lenses; just take a step or two closer or further from the Subject.
The "usefulness" of Zoom Lenses are: Access or Safety. At a Sporting Event you can only get so close, same with a Lion, or Photos taken from a Rooftop. In those situations a Zoom Lens is necessary.
Higher megapixels are necessary when you want to crop, want to Print larger Photos, or want to maximize the amount of material you can include in one image.
With a Camera that has a smaller Zoom Lens or fewer megapixels you need to take a few steps forward (for the closeups). In the case of larger Pixels you have the advantage of more light input, less noise, faster Shutter and the ability to stop down (and use the 'better' portion of the Lens).
So paint your Oranges red before you compare them to Apples and say one is not as good a Fruit because it is not as red.
Shoot a 8MP Camera from 20 feet away and a 4MP Camera from 10 feet away from the Subject and then compare the DETAIL. Don't post process then zoom and crop the higher MP Photo and say it is sharper than the lower MP Photo. It is not a reasonable way to compare the two.
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To put a larger Sensor in the HTC One would require making the Phone thicker (or using far more expensive Optics, or to accept more distortion).
Similarly, replacing the Sensor (that has more megapixels than the HTC One) in a Competitor's Phone with a Sensor that has larger Pixels would also require the Competitor to make their Phone thicker (or use far more expensive Optics, or accept more distortion).
That is an Apples to Apples comparison.
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Cellphones are like Laptops in that is is usually impossible to replace the Hardware (thus the 'Battery and SD Card' argument), but new Software can be purchased (or in this case obtained via a free Update) and the newest algorithmic techniques (Program) can improve the results that we will obtain from that non-replaceable Hardware.
With a Cellphone you are stuck with the Hardware you buy, but the Software can be replaced. HTC's Camera issues, in NORMAL lighting conditions, can be fixed via Software, whereas other Cellphones (the exception being the Nokia 808 PureView) can not be fixed by Software to work better in LOW lighting conditions.
Whether there IS going to be many more Updates of the Software coming for the Nokia 808 PureView (Manufacturer or 3rd Party) is another matter entirely.
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- heiks
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- 28 Mar 2013
this is not fight of even competitors, htc one is so much worse, especially in camera department
htc one is physically bigger and has smaller screen!
no way for htc one from me
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- AnonD-100398
- 2Z1
- 28 Mar 2013
AnonD-115066, 28 Mar 2013The final words last line say that winner is ONE "The... more"The winner? How about the one with your name on it" they mean any of the two with ur name embossed on it stop trolling so GSMA just became deplomatic even after knowing that sgs4 trashed the htc one in almost evry department .....i guess they do not want htc to go bankrupt....lol..
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- Anonymous
- ENB
- 28 Mar 2013
Htc one much betttttttttttter.
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- AnonD-129938
- fCB
- 28 Mar 2013
Can u people tell approximately when will the sgs4 review with exynos 5 octa will be post voz I'm eagerly looking forward to it
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- James8
- awZ
- 28 Mar 2013
The "new" HTC One's 4MP camera is WORSE than ANY 2010 smartphone with 8MP camera in the market!
Don't blindly believe HTC marketing gimmick. See below camera test and explanation to understand what 'ultrapixels' are.
HTC is buggy!!!! The test found 2 bugs.
Read this review that has the newest and confirmed latest firmware update (27th Mar 2013).
http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/review-htc-one-camera-tested-update
Quote: "HTC's implementation of 'ultrapixels' doesn't convey any significant advantage to image quality over the better camera phones of today".
'ultrapixels' is definitely not an innovation. It is just a different representation of a 8MP or lower camera. HTC is just trying to save cost by giving you a low spec camera. Don't fall for it.
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- AnonD-8779
- 6v}
- 28 Mar 2013
there is no point in up scaling a 4 MUP cam and trying to match the result with a 12 MPIX cam , this is nonsense and unfair comparison , keep the resolution of each cam and make corps to compare the quality , htc one still better and it is not a matter of design only.
in iraq , where i live , samsung rules , but when you have GS3 and you will pay 250$ for a broken screen and a one x owner can replace it with 175$ in local store or bring this screen from hong kong all the way to iraq for 82 dollars .. each phones will not worth more than 300$ at best after that , you can see even here htc is better considering i have not seen more than 4 devices with broken screens , and each broken screen had 10 times harder falls than sgs3
samsung makes some cool phones but sgs4 is crap ,i will get htc one any day especially with htc sense 5 is the coolest that came to android , i don't know how gsmarena found that touchwiz is better it is non sense and boering .
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- AnonD-115066
- XNt
- 28 Mar 2013
The final words last line say that winner is ONE
"The winner? How about the one with your name on it"
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- AnonD-129938
- fCB
- 28 Mar 2013
Gs4 the best
Can't wait to see the review with exynos 5 octa
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- Anonymous
- sEJ
- 28 Mar 2013
r, 28 Mar 2013sgs4 and htc one both are good phone. but i am waiting sgs4... moreIf that's the reason, you can always carry powerbank with it. No need to tear down the back of your phone everytime.
It's much easier to carry and use powerbank than spare battery!
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- Anonymous
- fCB
- 28 Mar 2013
Both gr8 phones gs4 just better
And
Google play movies now available in India
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- Anonymous
- sEJ
- 28 Mar 2013
AnonD-54303, 28 Mar 2013you talk a lot of crap, phone is a phone, not a human, then... moreHey,I'm just answered Tom's statement that gave comparison of HTC ONE with dumb beauty..
Just check the entire conversation before accusing me anything.
If you care enough to read then you probably not looking like dumb nerd.
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- YMa
- 28 Mar 2013
sgs4 and htc one both are good phone. but i am waiting sgs4. i am a heavy user. i carry extra battery.
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- AnonD-54303
- YPa
- 28 Mar 2013
Anonymous, 28 Mar 2013LOL what a comparison here.. Let me make it short for yo... moreyou talk a lot of crap, phone is a phone, not a human, then again your phone is probably your woman.
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- kung
- Cx3
- 28 Mar 2013
As a professional photographer, I would take larger "ultrapixels" over a higher megapixel count anyday. For a phone, 4MP is more than enough. A hd tv is only 2MP.
Larger pixels make a big difference. You get better high iso performance and less noise. This is why a $3000 canon5dmk3 will outperform any compact camera or phone in low light situations. HTC one also has f2.0 aperture and OIS. Stuff like this means a lot in photography. Having a f2.0 aperture and OIS will add many hundreds of dollars to a lens.
Looking at the sample pics, its clear that HTC has a software problem in their noise reduction algorithm. This is a shame as hardware wise, its got the most impressive camera I've seen (other than pureview). Hopefully, they will fix this in an update.
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- Anonymous
- sEJ
- 28 Mar 2013
What suddenly everybody speechless now? LOL..
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- CaptainDoug
- jp0
- 28 Mar 2013
AnonD-7433, 27 Mar 2013The tie on the design isn't just based on that single fact ... moreDroid Razr HD put a .4" larger screen into a device that's the same size.
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- Anonymous
- sEJ
- 28 Mar 2013
What suddenly everybody speechless now? LOL..
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- Anonymous
- sEJ
- 28 Mar 2013
Tom-Helge, 28 Mar 2013So you prefer design over software and functionality?
Th... moreLOL what a comparison here..
Let me make it short for you Tom, ONE is like a woman with nice personality and great b*obs.. You can have them BOTH and feels like the luckiest guy on earth :)
*speaking here from personal experience *
Back to main point, you can rest assured that hardware and software capabilities of ONE isn't (if any) far from SGS IV, but with a lot nicer classy premium design.
Yes it's like to hold very attractive grown mature woman with personality.. It's ONE :)
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- AnonD-100398
- tU3
- 28 Mar 2013
Why cant someone make a device with the design of htc + specs of sgs4 and water and dustproofing of sxz....then there will be no Fights no bashing only usefull comments...i think i will have to open a new company.......lol..