Samsung Galaxy A15 5G
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- Anonymous
- GXs
- 09 Jan 2024
atichko, 30 Dec 2023They are selling in an acceptable way but not well, at leas... moreSo interesting to see people droning on and on about bigger batteries and displays and that nobody wants compact budgets. Then someone asks why Samsung’s 6000mAh phones aren’t available in many or most countries if that’s the batteries that everyone is supposedly clamoring for.
Suddenly, silence and cricket sounds… The genius preachers became mute.
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- Anonymous
- yJt
- 09 Jan 2024
atichko, 09 Jan 2024True. Again it's not only Sammy that does this, they a... moreApple is NOT leading the pack. Their base iPhone as well as the iPhone Pro each year are around 5.8 inches. Only the Plus and Pro Max models are bigger. Add to that the SE model every other year. That's more than half of their (limited amount of) phones that are compact.
Samsung on the other hand produces one small S phone each year, and that's it. And the total amount of models they produce is much higher than Apple.
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- Anonymous
- PBx
- 09 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 29 Oct 2023Actually 4y of security updatesWell in india ,the samsung shop app mentions 5 years.
- atichko
- M{V
- 09 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 08 Jan 2024Those "not worthy" customers are in good company.... moreTrue. Again it's not only Sammy that does this, they all do that and Apple is leading the pack. Unfair? Yes. Reality? Indeed and it's not going to change any time soon unless people would stop buying these monstrous slabs (ok, they also have advantages but on an other level and if you are prepared to use both hands...always) or if there would be a global conflict where people would have other things to worry than silly things like size and colours of smartphones. Till then you and me (and all others craving for compact devices) can only have what tere is and I'm not happy about that but I'm not going to cry about it in a corner in fetal position either. Currently I use an iPhone 13 mini because the price became somewhat reasonable (although I kind of hate Apple because of their "all into profit" marketing at exuberant proces and somehow crappy products for the money) it is a true pleasure to handle it with one hand for most of the actions, even the battery holds better than I thought (for now at least as it still is 100%). I forgot only one thing, my eyes... Using it without glaces is simply not possible and that would be the same for any other compact phone, even if character settings are put to the max. Oh well, it's doable.
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- Anonymous
- Bkj
- 09 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 07 Jan 2024These back-and-forths between everyone is getting too long.... moreRight.
Samsung, it's time you start respecting your customers by giving them choices.
Give those who want a:
- Compact budget phone
Or:
- 6000 battery phone
Or:
- Headphone jack high-end phone
Or:
- Good non-Exynos chipset
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- Anonymous
- ps8
- 08 Jan 2024
atichko, 08 Jan 2024Well, I think that you don't get the point. According ... moreThose "not worthy" customers are in good company. Along with the "not worthy" Note customers, the "not worthy" 3.5mm jack fans, the "not worthy" snapdragon fans in many countries, and the "not worthy" battery life fans in most countries.
Thank you Samsung.
- atichko
- M{V
- 08 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 07 Jan 2024You keep missing the point. Repeating "there is no mar... moreWell, I think that you don't get the point. According all major phone makers (not only Samsung) there isn't a market worthy enough to make such phones and that is why there aren't. Go tell them.
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- Anonymous
- 64i
- 07 Jan 2024
These back-and-forths between everyone is getting too long. Let’s cut to the chase and concisely summarize the points that a few people made below:
Whatever phones are (or are not) produced has no correlation to what customers desire, and certain kinds of devices being discontinued does not mean people don’t want them anymore. Case in point:
1) Samsung keeps using Exynos chips despite knowing full well no one wants them.
2) Their 6000mAh battery phones are available in a limited amount of locations. In most countries, 5000mAh devices is the most that long battery life fans can get.
3) All their budget phones are big and heavy, some to ridiculous proportions. Though many budget customers want a smaller and lighter phone (similar to the base S phone’s dimensions), Samsung won’t make it anymore. Not even one.
4) They stopped the Note series even though tons of fans want it back.
5) They removed the 3.5mm jacks from higher-end phones, even though many people want it back.
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- Anonymous
- 64i
- 07 Jan 2024
atichko, 07 Jan 2024You know what? Why don't you start your own phone comp... moreYou keep missing the point. Repeating "there is no market for compact phones" again and again. You're wrong. There is (or at least there would be).
You can also shout "there is no market for Note phones which is why Samsung stopped it" and you'd be wrong too.
- atichko
- M{V
- 07 Jan 2024
Let us clarify, 07 Jan 2024Re: your last three comments. Compact budget phones are ... moreYou know what? Why don't you start your own phone company and make all the compact phones you want as it seems you have all the wisdom for it. My very first post was about a YouTuber explaining why compact phones fail to sell, nothing more, nothing less. You mention that people buy phones they don't necessary like but there is no other choice. Well that's marketing. Marketing and sales dictates what you can buy and what not. You can argue endlessly why there isn't what you want but the fact remains that currently there is no market for compact phones for the simple reason that to them it isn't profitable and thus there is no reason to make such phones, regardless of a (apparently not so big) group of people who are shouting to see such phones in the stores, especially affordable ones. These are the market dynamics for now which means bigger is better, not smaller is better so that's it. It's as simple as that. We could spend lours and hours at arguing who is wrong and who is right but the world keeps on turning round, with or without you or me. You don't want to buy a current phone factor? Then don't and go back to a good old button phone. They are very compact. You do need a smarter phone, though luck, it's big, bigger and biggest and at the same time more expensive. That rule applies to all phone makers currently dumping new phones several times a year. The few compact phones that are available, aren't really compact and are all but cheap or affordable.
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- Parth
- 7kp
- 07 Jan 2024
Samsung is a 'I don't company '. In India they thrive due to negative sentiments about Chinese phones and cost factor of Apple phones
I have their Galaxy M33 with ringtone problems. They will say so many things but accept their defect.Moreoften, Indian Brands are more receptive.
Think several times before buying a Samsung product
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- Let us clarify
- 64i
- 07 Jan 2024
atichko, 06 Jan 2024What you say is true but not entirely. As stated in other r... moreRe: your last three comments.
Compact budget phones are more expensive? They’re cheaper! For instance, a “A15e 5G” that’s 5.75 inches from top to bottom (like the S23) would be slightly cheaper to manufacture than the regular A15 5G because there’s a drop less material going into the smaller phone. And more importantly, it would only get a 4000mAh or 4200mAh battery instead of 5000mAh.
Now, “them caring” is not about the (nonexistent) goodness of their hearts, rather it’s caring about the large group of people who would buy a compact mid-range or lower-end phone from which Samsung would make a profit. But for whatever reason they’re not interested in that customer base or the profit. And by the way, no one’s suggesting they make all their budget phones smaller, just one or two of them so that the option is available.
Another point, you have this notion that due to their “genius marketers”, every business decision Samsung makes is magically the best, and every device they produce is guaranteed to reap the most profit, while every phone they don’t make (or discontinue) is proof that it’s not financially viable. This is not true. If it was, they would make their 6000mAh battery phones available everywhere, but they don’t. If it was true, they would resume the Note series that many people love, but they don’t. If it was true, they would bring back the 3.5mm jacks to all phones because many people still want it very much, but they don’t. If it was true, they wouldn’t just produce a modified compact version of the A23 5G for Japan only, as it is utterly preposterous and absurd to suggest that just one country in the world has consumers that want a certain size device.
So obviously these decisions were not about profits, nor were they driven by “wizard marketers”. Instead, Samsung had other considerations, some of which lack any rhyme or reason. Here’s proof of that: just look at a list of every single phone (both premium and budget) that they produced in any given year, and then start mapping out which device was made available in which country, and which wasn't. Halfway through this exercise you will have discovered the impossibility of there being any coherent strategy for why country A got these phones but not those, and why country B got a different combination of models, and then country C, and D, and so on. And why some got more, some less, and some much less. You think they took surveys from every country in the world to see which devices a majority of each one’s residents like? Come on, get real!
And again, the fact that “most people” buy a certain phone does not mean they really want it, as customers are often forced to make do with what’s available, even if they’re not happy with the limited choices (also known as “choosing the lesser of the evils”). Samsung knows this and exploits it to the fullest.
So if many people are asking for a compact budget phone, saying “if it doesn’t exist, it’s proof that not enough people want it and Samsung wouldn’t make a profit” is complete rubbish and nonsense.
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- Frederick
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- 07 Jan 2024
It's been a long wait for this premuim phone by samsung. A mid range phone that has 5g capable. Amoled screen is perfect for this device. NFC built in. Camera was very optimistic by 50mp. Front camera as well. Very responsive. I have a 256gb with additional 256gb sd card.
- atichko
- M{V
- 06 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 04 Jan 2024It's high time to dispel the myth that phone manufactu... moreWhat you say is true but not entirely. As stated in other reactions, profit is what counts, not what you want but what sells. You and me as consumers are nothing. We are just allowed to buy what marketeers makes us think to be a necessity. At the same time they do somewhat care about what we think or want because they still need to sell us their goods (good or bad) and as bigger is better these days (or at least that is what we have been led to believe through constant brainwashing). In short, if you don't like something, don't buy it and if you don't fine any alternative then it's your problem. No one will care about it. These ar not my words, it's just how this world works, especially for people who don't have the financial means or just don't want to purchase expensive goods. These days it's even worse, premiums stuff sells well lately it seems while the market for affordable is shrinking meaning that it becomes even less likely that a budget compact phone would see the light of day.
- atichko
- M{V
- 06 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2024With phones, the supply drives the demand, not the other wa... moreThat is true as well but saying that they don't care is maybe not entirely true as you still need people to buy your phones. The dark side of marketing is something we don't understand as consumer but indeed we are confronted by choices made by such marketeers weather we like it or not. The whole chipset thing might also be a bit exaggerated in terms of real user experience, not only speaking of benchmarks. Not everyone is hooked on such data, only people who want the most performance for the buck. The majority will buy such things emotionally or driven by social pressure (wanting to belong like Apple is master at this game). But again it's not really the point when it comes to compact phones, especially not if we would want to see them in the budget or lower midrange segment. The facts are still holding that the few compact (or at least semi compact ones) don't sell enough to standardize development and productions of components that would allow a bigger offering regardless of other dark marketing reasons behind it. The trend is still "bigger is better" and that is the major driver to not do otherwise as all are into making profit, not about caring of certain niches who would like to see things becoming more compact or other things like people wanting to see physical keyboards again like the BlackBerry's of yesteryear. We live in a society that is focused on selling, not caring. If you don't like what is offered, don't buy it. And if you don't find something that suits you, though luck, that's how it works
- atichko
- M{V
- 06 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2024It still makes no sense that Japan would be the ONLY countr... moreWell indeed, nothing makes sense in the whole case of compact phones. That's the dark side of marketing. As I mentioned already several times in different reactions, it isn't because there isn't enough potential for such phones but the reality is that if one comes out with a true compact phone it doesn't sell and that is a fact. So why would one continue to make a phone that is potentially more expensive to make with no guarantee of profitable sales? Don't get me wrong, I am one of the many people who would love to see more, and most of all, affordable true compact phones (meaning anything with a screen estate of 6.1 or lower as anything above isn't really compact).
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- Anonymous
- rip
- 05 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 04 Jan 2024It's high time to dispel the myth that phone manufactu... moreSpot on!
Here are two more examples of Samsung forcing decisions on consumers, instead of responding to what customers want:
4) The Note series being stopped. The howls of its many fans didn't faze Samsung.
5) The headphone 3.5mm jacks removal on higher-end phones. Samsung just decided that people don't want it, only lower-end customers do. Did they take global surveys to find out if that's the case? I seriously doubt it.
So once again, Samsung not making compact budget phones says absolutely nothing about whether customers want them (which many do).
If anyone else has more examples, here's the place to add them.
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- Anonymous
- 8sc
- 04 Jan 2024
atichko, 02 Jan 2024The dynamics of a phone maker is seldom a case of stupidity... moreIt's high time to dispel the myth that phone manufacturers produce what consumers want and the premise that an item not in supply is proof that consumers don’t want it. This notion is utter fiction.
Let's use Samsung as an example:
1) Samsung knows that almost all of its customers prefer Snapdragon over Exynos. Yet, S-series phones in many regions are Exynos for years (S23 was an exception), as the S24 base and plus models will be in 2024. People buy it because they have NO CHOICE, but they clearly DON’T WANT it. The same goes for many Exynos A-series phones where an equivalent Snapdragon (or at least Dimensity) chip would be preferred, but isn't provided.
2) Multiple comments on this website claim that most consumers prioritize bigger batteries over smaller and lighter phones which would necessitate smaller batteries. Now, if that’s the case, why are Samsung’s M/F series phones with 6000mAh batteries not available in many regions to budget customers? If most people want it, you’d think Samsung would make them available. But in many countries, 5000mAh battery phones is the biggest there is.
3) Many customers who can’t afford a $800 phone prefer a smaller and lighter device with the dimensions of the S23/S22. The fact that they mostly end up buying bigger budget devices is because smaller ones DON’T EXIST. But if they did, that’s what they’d get.
So, does phone demand drive supply, as many claim?
No! Consumers just respond to whatever is available because they have no other choice!
I hope this myth has been put to rest once and for all.
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- Anonymous
- yJt
- 03 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 02 Jan 2024It's not Samsung's decision. Its' japanese o... moreThat's like saying Verizon can only service phones that are color blue or green, to meet their "needs".
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- Anonymous
- ps8
- 03 Jan 2024
Anonymous, 03 Jan 2024So since you're such a genius, kindly explain how Sams... moreIn reality, it's customers that want smaller phones, not cellphone towers or LTE/5G waves.