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- 24 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 24 Aug 2024The back glass on my S24 has loosened up from the top so it... moreShould be replaced under warranty, Samsung will send out a replacement (temporary cost to you) and once you've received the replacement you can send them back the current phone..
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- 24 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 24 Aug 2024The back glass on my S24 has loosened up from the top so it... moreBuy or use a backup phone for the time being while you leave your S24 at the service center.
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- 24 Aug 2024
The back glass on my S24 has loosened up from the top so it is slightly popping open with a gap. It moves easily if I pick on it with my fingernail. Since then, I'm using a back case to hold the glass in place. Can anyone please suggest how to fix this? I can't really leave my phone at a service centre since I depend on it for my livelihood.
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Anonymous, 23 Aug 2024Here’s a quick education on some fundamentals. It’s very wo... moreAmazing! So well put!
I would just add that Samsung is one of the worst, if not the worst when it comes to putting giant bezels in budget phones. Ugliness is a secondary concern. The main problem is the fact that it needlessly makes the device bigger and heavier. And as you point out, it can easily be avoided.
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- 23 Aug 2024
Here’s a quick education on some fundamentals. It’s very worth the read.
First, let’s define the terms:
“Device size”: length from top to bottom of device itself.
“Display size”: screen size measured diagonally, usually bigger than device size.
Examples:
S24 Ultra: 6.8 inch display, 6.39 inch device
S24 Plus: 6.7 inch display, 6.24 inch device
S24: 6.2 inch display, 5.79 inch device
Conclusion:
Device can be a half inch smaller than display without sacrificing anything.
So why is the gap between display and device size in budget phones much less? Because of useless bezels i.e. dead space around the screen that just contributes to a bulkier device size for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. The most egregious example is the A14 with a 6.6 display and 6.6 device size due to its gigantic bezels. Remove that dead space and you’re left with a more manageable 6.2 inch device. The A15 is somewhat better, but the gap is still 6.5 to 6.3. The A55/A35 are slightly better, with a gap of 6.6 to 6.34/6.37, but they can also be 6.2 inches.
But will the battery fit? Well, the 6.23 inch A54 clearly shows a 5000 mAh battery fitting into 6.2 inches. So why are bezels added? To purposely stick it to budget customers! It’s not like the manufacturer has to go out of their way and do anything extra for budget customers, just DON’T ADD dead space!
You may ask: “What’s a few tenths of an inch already?” Well guess what, the difference between a compact device and a big bulky one is often less than an inch. So in phones, every tenth of an inch makes a real difference.
Weight is also a problem. As an example, the S24 Plus is 6.91 oz. So why is the A15 - 7.05 oz, the A14 - 7.13 oz, the A55 - very heavy at 7.37 oz, and the A35 - an astounding 7.51 oz! The A13 seems to manage just fine at 6.88 oz. And when you’re holding a phone for a while, you can bet that those ounces (or grams) add up to tire and/or hurt your hand!
Bottom line: in addition to the discussion of producing actual compact phones that are affordable which should absolutely be done, today’s budget phones can be more manageable IN THEIR CURRENT FORM if their useless dead space and extra weight is removed.
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- 23 Aug 2024
ulterior111, 22 Aug 2024Just wondering, what phones do you "compact phone advo... moreI'm using almost five years old xiaomi mi a3 which has 6.1" screen. I bought it 4.5 years ago new for 195Eur. It's still works good and battery gives around 6-7h sot.
Today it's almost impossible to get such phone size in a mid-ranger. So I'm considering xperia 10vi, iPhone 14 or 15, galaxy s23 or s24. The smaller pixels are also in that range. Of all the mentioned phones, the cheapest one is xperia (the lowest price I found is 350Eur), but the hardware is hardly worth that price.
Can't get a new 6" phone for below 300Eur today.
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- 23 Aug 2024
ulterior111, 22 Aug 2024Just wondering, what phones do you "compact phone advo... morewent from the pixel 7 pro as was heavily discounted but the size just got annoying so went to the s24 and love it, does every just as well if not better than the pixel.. one gripe would be the 1080 screen but this display really doesnt need more than that and probs wouldnt help battery either
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- 23 Aug 2024
scorpio, 23 Aug 2024You neglected to mention a further option - those who have ... moreHorrible for your pockets but amazing for your eyes. Tried all s24 series. S24 plus is the golden medium.
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- 23 Aug 2024
scorpio, 23 Aug 2024You neglected to mention a further option - those who have ... moreYeah, but those phones don't come cheap. They cost at least $800 or more. People on the comments below are asking for cheap compact phones with prices ranging from $100-$500, of which there are hardly any these days.
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- 23 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2024Great question! Here are some options, each probably repre... moreYou neglected to mention a further option - those who have compact phones by choice. I have an s23 and love it. Previously I had an s10 and before that an s8 and s6 and also s4 so obviously the size suits me. My wife has an iPhone13 which is about the same size as my s23 so obviously that size suits her also. The plus size phones are just too big for me, awkward and slightly heavy to fit in your pocket.
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- 23 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2024Great question!
Here are some options, each probably repre... moreI still have my Galaxy A8 2018. The thing is a joy to hold and I love the build quality, but I hate the limited 32GB storage, miniscule 3000mAh battery, and just how laggy it is for even the most basic tasks.
Eventually I had to switch to a Galaxy A33. Although I wasn't sure of the bigger size at first, I eventually got used to it and just never looked back at wanting a compact phone ever again. The bigger screen is nicer to look at and gives a more immersive viewing experience for media consumption.
One thing I can agree on is how bulky Samsung's budget phones are getting. Chinese manufacturers are trimming down bezels and thickness year by year, Samsung's doing it too, but only for their flagships. For their budget phones, they're doing the opposite; thicker bezels and thicker phones every year, for what? I think their engineering is behind the times.
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- 23 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2024Great question! Here are some options, each probably repre... moreSomeone wrote in an earlier comment that Samsung doesn't provide anything to those in underprivileged communities who need a compact phone, Samsung only does so for the rich. These four options forced onto the non-rich illustrates the problem very well.
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- 22 Aug 2024
ulterior111, 22 Aug 2024Just wondering, what phones do you "compact phone advo... moreGreat question!
Here are some options, each probably representing a certain percentage of small phone lovers:
1) They’ve been forced into buying a big heavy budget phone that they hate because it hurts their hands and weighs down their pocket. But what can they do? They can’t afford the expensive compact S phone.
2) They’re holding on to their older compact phones, despite not receiving any security updates for a long time already.
3) They abandoned Samsung (really it’s Samsung that abandoned them) and got one of the smaller Pixel phones from the last few years, especially during the multiple discounts that went on.
4) They purchased secondhand/refurbished small S phones, though many people would never do that, as there are many risks with secondhand electronics.
Presumably, the biggest number of people did option 1, then option 2, etc.
These people would gladly buy a new compact A-series phone should it be made available.
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- 22 Aug 2024
ulterior111, 22 Aug 2024Just wondering, what phones do you "compact phone advo... moreMaybe some old iPhone se or a low end Redmi.
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Anonymous, 22 Aug 20241) The bigger S24 Plus is more expensive than the smaller S... moreJust wondering, what phones do you "compact phone advocating folks" use at the moment?
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I upgrade to the S24 from my S23 and the camera is absolutely atrocious. Low light ghosting is a mess, so is the stabilization on videos.
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- 22 Aug 2024
IQ200, 21 Aug 2024No. People don't usually go into the store and compare... more1) The bigger S24 Plus is more expensive than the smaller S24. If the plus model is cheaper to make, then the price doesn't make sense.
2) Just as the S24 has a big fan base (even if it's not the majority of customers) and brings in a big profit, a similarly sized A-series phone would also bring a profit due to its fan base of similar customers, just that they can't afford expensive S-series prices, but would definitely buy something in the mid-range or budget segment.
3) The profit of a compact A-series phone would be much higher than whatever Samsung's making (or not) from the ridiculous A/M/F/C/X/Y/Z duplicate devices that they produce for a few countries. Basically they take a budget phone, make tiny changes, and then slap on a new M/F/XYZ model onto it as if it's actually a different option. Brilliant people they have working in their planning departments...
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- 21 Aug 2024
IQ200, 21 Aug 2024Go to your favorite browser and type in how much is the ave... moreSimple question:
If smaller phones are costlier to produce, why is the S24 much cheaper than the S24 Plus, shouldn't it be the opposite?
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- 21 Aug 2024
IQ200, 21 Aug 2024No. People don't usually go into the store and compare... morePeople like it or not will get used to it. This year s24 plus is really good like golden medium. Running mine several months now.
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Anonymous, 16 Aug 2024Everyone who wants a compact affordable phone needs to unit... moreGo to your favorite browser and type in how much is the average cost of a midranger like Galaxy A55 and compare it with the cost of making the Galaxy S24. if i wasn't clear enough.... midranger can't be too expensive as they belong to certain class of phones called midrange. Why is this important you may ask? Because a smaller phone is way harder to produce then bigger one. Harder to produce means more expensive, more expensive means higher end price.
Conclusion.
2 main factors.
1. Smaller phones are worth to produce for OEM's only if it's in higher tier because of the higher profit margines there. 100€ difference means almost nothing in higher tier but on a midranger it's a lot.
2. General peoples thinking is that bigger is always better and in case of phones, bigger phone will always be considered as a better value then a smaller phone.
So, it's not just the factor if we The people want more compact phones or not. There is no petition needed. The main factor is that smaller phones are not worth of producing for OEM's because of the higher production costs.