Samsung Galaxy S24
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2024Pontificators? Who do you think you're talking to? Thi... moreIf you followed the earlier comments discussing this topic (which you don't have to, but if you did) you'd see there were many "pontificators" saying that the fact that compact phones are mostly not sold anymore means no one wants them which is total rubbish and nonesense as some smart people explained below.
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2024You seem really confused, let me help you out here.
1) The... moreYes, of course people are allowed to express their opinions, but just remember that companies aren't your friends. As long as they keep riling in profits, they won't care about the small percentage of vocal buyers complaining about the lack of affordable compact phones.
For businesses, money speaks more than customer outcries do, so as long as people keep buying their gargantuan phones, budget or flagship, nothing will ever change.
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- Anonymous
- Brt
- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2024Pontificators? Who do you think you're talking to? Thi... moreCorrect folks argue and defend their phones like it's their siblings, strange times
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024Quote: "Problem is you're looking at production f... morePontificators? Who do you think you're talking to? This is just one person who's not even trying to be smart, just playing guessing games as much as you do. You're projecting your own arrogance and unfairly generalizing.
Off with that high and mighty attitude, bro. Phones are not worth starting a war over.
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024Quote: "Problem is you're looking at production f... moreOh welp, have it your way then. I don't have the power to change people or the world, so I'm not gonna start butting heads with anyone here. It's your right to advocate for whatever you want and however you feel like it here, even if it won't get you what you wish for.
Good luck.
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024Quote: "Problem is you're looking at production f... moreIn truth, many customers do not buy their phone based on the size. Thus, how many big or small phones sell is not indicative of what size people truly prefer. The only way to actually tell people's size preferences based on sales numbers is if you have two identical phones, one's big and the other is compact. Then you can see how many each one sells, otherwise there can be other specs or considerations that causes people to buy a phone even if the size is not their first preference. All the commenters talking about how there's no demand for compact phones based on this-or-that-model's sales numbers really don't have the foggiest idea what they're talking about. Especially since there isn't even any affordable compact options IN EXISTENCE anymore for years, so consumers are forced to buy big budget ones even if they do not like the size or weight. They just can't afford expensive compact options.
Rule to always remember: when it comes to phones, demand does NOT drive supply, it’s the other way around. Customers are forced to make do with whatever is available, even if none of the existing options is what they really want.
As an example, imagine if someone said “No one in the U.S. purchased the A55/A34/A33, this means no one wants them”. Hey fellas, those models are NOT SOLD in the U.S. so people who want them CAN’T GET THEM.
The same applies to compact budge phones worldwide. Many want them, but they CAN'T GET THEM, so they're FORCED TO BUY BIG ONES.
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- Anonymous
- sbs
- 29 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024"Why can't Samsung just make this, or that, or wh... moreYou seem really confused, let me help you out here.
1) The small phone lovers aren’t asking for ONLY their preference, but rather IN ADDITION to big phones there should be compact ones too. It’s the big phone lovers that think the world revolves around them and are trying to suppress anyone else’s preference from being accommodated. They’re the ones saying that because THEY don’t think people like small phones, it shouldn’t exist.
2) Your comment about the freedom of companies is bizarre. Is someone forcing companies to do anything? Or are people just expressing their opinions?
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024You see, when a company decides to release a product for mo... moreExplain how “the markets for each country is very different” in the context of compact phones. Only people in certain countries like phones that don’t hurt their hand and weigh down their pocket? Can you tell us which countries have such people and which don’t? The mere notion is quite odd.
And regarding your comment about 4G/5G, Samsung restricts many 5G phones from the US (and many other countries) as well, so it isn’t just about that. In fact, most Samsung budget phones ever produced aren’t available in the US either. This includes among many others: A73, A72, A55, A41, A40, A34, A33, A31, A30, A22 5G/4G, and all M/F/XYZ phones (including the 5G ones).
In fact, in 2023, the ONLY two budget phones sold in the US were the A54/A14 5G. And this year it’s just three phones: A35/A25/A15 5G.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024Problem is you're looking at production figures, not s... moreQuote: "Problem is you're looking at production figures, not sales."
Response: Last I checked, companies produce for the sole purpose of making sales.
Quote: "not necessarily everyone who will purchase an iPhone 16 or 16 Pro want their smaller size"
Response: Oh wow! So until now, the geniuses have been pontificating that more people buying bigger phones means it's BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. Now you do a 180 and say "people buying certain phones isn't necessarily because they like the size". Just wow!
Quote: "this is Apple we're talking about. "
Response: Isn't everyone claiming that Samsung just follows what Apple does?
Quote: "Just because they're doing it doesn't mean more people want compact phones than big ones."
Response: Again, just wow! The pontificators have been shouting from the rooftops that Samsung's big phones is PRECISELY because they somehow "know" that "everyone" wants that size.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024How'd you get 57% from 2 out of four? Also aren't... more1) Regular 27% and Pro 30% totals 57% compact models combined. Plus 6% and Pro Max 37% totals 43% for the big models.
2) Yes, they are bumping up the pro's DISPLAY to 6.3, which means the actual DEVICE size will still be 6 inches or less, which is still relatively compact. See someone's excellent explanation below on this concept if you have difficulty understanding.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 26 Aug 2024If the A4X sales (or lack thereof) causes that series to be... more"Why can't Samsung just make this, or that, or whatever instead of these? It's all pointless and nobody wants them!"
As a wise man would say, the world doesn't revolve around you. You want the right to freely express yourself in this forum, but you aren't giving freedom to those companies to make whatever they want to. It's selfish to say that because you don't like something, then it shouldn't exist.
Imagine spending hours making a nice cake, only for some random dude on the streets to say to your face "nobody's going to want that". How would you feel?
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024Fun fact: 57% of the iPhone 16 series will be the smalle... moreHow'd you get 57% from 2 out of four? Also aren't all the models getting a bump in size?
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024Indeed, the A40 and A41 phones were not released in many co... moreYou see, when a company decides to release a product for more places in the world, production costs, shipment costs and sales targets will soar, which may lead to increased prices for said product. If the product ends up not meeting sales expectations, it will be an even bigger loss of investment for the company.
Of course, still the only true way to prove if people want cheap compact phones is to release them for almost the entire world. But Samsung can't just release every phone for every country because the markets for each country is very different.
For example, the Galaxy A05, A05s, and A15 4G wouldn't sell in North America because they're slowly killing 4G and GSM networks in favor of 5G and CDMA.
The A40 and A41's limited availability could be driven by decreasing consumer demands for smaller phones in most countries, and because competition from Chinese companies who've decided for themselves that virtually *no one* should have compact phones; there isn't a compact flagship, nor mid-ranger from the likes of OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, Honor, and Huawei.
Xiaomi only began making compact flagships in 2022 starting with the Xiaomi 13. Many people called it an iPhone wannabe, but Xiaomi had always been an iPhone wannabe since the very start, alongside other Chinese companies.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024Fun fact:
57% of the iPhone 16 series will be the smalle... moreProblem is you're looking at production figures, not sales. Also, not necessarily everyone who will purchase an iPhone 16 or 16 Pro want their smaller size, but because they're cheaper and better value than their Plus/Max versions.
Last thing, this is Apple we're talking about. Just because they're doing it doesn't mean more people want compact phones than big ones. Their mid-range iPhone SE has never sold nearly as well as their flagships, so Android makers won't bother competing by making their own compact phones.
It's too early to jump to conclusions.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 28 Aug 2024Indeed, the A40 and A41 phones were not released in many co... moreAs the one guy below me said, you can continue waiting and begging for that broken bridge to be repaired while me and others will just take the muddy road beside it.
We'll see if that gets you anywhere. Good luck.
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- Anonymous
- sbs
- 28 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024While some could argue the A42 killed the series because it... moreIndeed, the A40 and A41 phones were not released in many countries. That's probably why the sales weren't as high as they could have been. I love the geniuses who talk about low sale numbers of a compact phone that Samsung didn't even make available in many markets.
How about make a phone available in the whole world before starting to build sand castles in the air out of its sale numbers. You think?
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 25 Aug 2024Here's the thing: the budget and flagship market for p... moreFun fact:
57% of the iPhone 16 series will be the smaller models, the bigger Plus and Pro Max models will only be 43% combined. So Apple knows more people want compact phones. This is also why their mid-range phone (the SE) is small as well.
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- Anonymous
- sbs
- 27 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024If it's true that "no one buys them", then c... moreAnd that's precisely the point. Samsung would make much more profit with a compact phone like the A56e/A36e/A46 than it does with all these so-called M/F that it only releases to a few countries which means it's a very small market with few buyers. And few buyers doesn't stop Samsung from producing something.
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- Anonymous
- sbs
- 27 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024While some could argue the A42 killed the series because it... moreNo one's arguing that because the A42 was big, that's what ended the A4X series. It's just that the same way the size of the A42 isn't relevant to the continuation of the A4X series, the same goes for the size of the A41.
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Aug 2024
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024I don't know why people like you have to be so despera... more"I don't know why people like you have to be so desperate about wanting compact budget phones."
Since when does anyone need to justify their wants or needs to you??