Samsung Galaxy Xcover Pro
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- FenCPH
- ntQ
- 21 Apr 2022
Zakalwe, 21 Apr 2022I agree in principle, and of course every little bit matter... moreA full charge will cause a. 87 loss in the total number of manufacturers planned charging cycles.
A 85 % charge will be a .17 loss according to the AccuBattery app.
If that is correct it's a big deal.
Enough to have my first battery in the XCOVER PRO last almost 3 years.
Today I have 3 that gets recycled.
You are right that nothing is forever, but going easy on charging and exposure can help us and the next generation and the next.
Let's all advance repairability and common sense.
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- Zakalwe
- 0AD
- 21 Apr 2022
FenCPH, 20 Apr 2022Why you should care about the life of your battery is simpl... moreI agree in principle, and of course every little bit matters, but nevertheless I wonder how much effect we are talking about here. Lithium batteries can be recycled, it just happens far too rarely today. As far as I understand, the big issues are how to deal with EV batteries (each equivalent to thousands of phones), and non-removable (and often proprietary) batteries in consumer electronics that lead to old devices ending up in drawers because people do not know what to do with them. The XCover Pro battery has a good chance of actually being recycled, so from an environmental perspective I would think this already puts it ahead of most phones on the market.
Then should we go further and limit the charging to extend the battery lifetime? Maybe, but how much is the effect? A lithium battery will degrade no matter what we do, even when not used and stored under ideal conditions - and phones do get used and carried around everywhere. Are we talking years of lifetime extension or mere months?
Also, a battery should not be discharged below about 15% (some recommend even higher discharge limits). Limiting the top charge to 85% might mean the user has to get additional chargers, power banks or spare batteries to avoid ending up below 15% during the day, thereby cancelling out the environmental advantage of using one battery a little bit longer.
Personally, I charge to 100% and replace after around 1.5 years. With my last one I went longer because I rarely left the house during the pandemic, so endurance was not so important.
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- FenCPH
- ntQ
- 20 Apr 2022
exp1orer, 18 Apr 2022why do i have to care about the life of the battery of this... moreWhy you should care about the life of your battery is simply because the manufacturing uses essential ingredients that are limited in quantity and will affect the quality of other specimens life.
If you don't care, you're grandchildren and/or their children certainly will.
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- exp1orer
- 7$6
- 18 Apr 2022
there seems to be an improvement in the battery usage of this phone after i upgraded to Android 12 UI4.0...it doesn't drain that fast...but the phone became slower :(
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- exp1orer
- 7$6
- 18 Apr 2022
FenCPH, 15 Apr 2022Get a specific charger like CHARGIE so to smarter charge yo... morewhy do i have to care about the life of the battery of this phone? it has a removable battery which i should be able to replace after 2 years...but replacing the drained one every day is of course a hassle.
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- Zakalwe
- 0AD
- 16 Apr 2022
As of the Android 12 upgrade you can even use the settings to limit the charging to 85% (Settings->Device care->Battery->More battery settings). Not as good as a smart charger, but it is a start.
Though to be honest, with battery replacements being so easy and cheap (around €25 here) I just put in a fresh one every year or so. I did that the other day, and the phone even seems faster - does Samsung throttle when batteries age, or am I imagining things?
Either way, if "exp1orer" cannot get through the day even with a new battery, then that sounds like some other problem. Maybe some runaway process? The aforementioned auto brightness can be the reason here, with the CameraLightSensor app going crazy and running full time. Clearing its cache and data can help.
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- FenCPH
- ntQ
- 15 Apr 2022
exp1orer, 15 Apr 2022Biggest weakness of my XCover Pro is battery...I use it for... moreGet a specific charger like CHARGIE so to smarter charge your phone at night to 50% and have the charger top it opp to 85% as you wake up.
That will keep your battery fine for 3 or more years.
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- exp1orer
- pKW
- 15 Apr 2022
Biggest weakness of my XCover Pro is battery...I use it for browsing only on facebook, very few video play but it hardly lasts a day...another weakness is the auto screen brightness...this seems to be a common problem with Samsung rugged smartphones...both my XCover 4 and Xcover Pro can't get the auto brightness correctly which btw have LCD screens...my A7 2017 auto brightness works perfectly and its battery preforms better than the XCover Pro.
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- Ricsung
- Hqj
- 25 Mar 2022
I've already had my phone replaced due to a faulty back light and the same thing has happened yet again. The phone is gone for 2 weeks. A huge disruption to my business and many hours of my time backing up and transferring files from one phone to another. I recommend replacing this phone with something else , because as long as Samsung will not admit to this being a systemic issue with this model(and permanently fix the issue), every time the phone is replaced, it will have the same fault re-occur yet again! Absolutely insulting the way that Samsung treat their customers. I will be requesting a full refund and never purchase this phone again. My hard earned money spent for a so called 'tough military standard' phone...and they don't even offer spare batteries online or from retailers.... or even make a stand alone spare battery charger like they did with the S5 or even offer a factory POGO phone charging dock. Why then build a phone with POGO pins and removable battery in the first place??? Never again. What a waste of my valuable TIME, my LIFE HOURS and my MONEY!!! An otherwise good phone concept and experience sullied due to poor customer care by SAMSUNG.
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- Zakalwe
- 0AD
- 09 Mar 2022
The first more solid rumors about a successor have emerged, the SM-G736B, possibly the Xcover Pro 2:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-xcover-pro-2-coming-this-summer-series-first-5g-phone/
Asides from the obvious addition of 5G, my personal wish list is to add substantially more RAM and keep the old-school features (removable battery, card slot, headphone jack). Maybe even go for a more Xcover 5-inspired design with no punch hole camera; if you have bezels anyway, use them.
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- Stpeterson12
- FKy
- 03 Mar 2022
Zakalwe, 03 Mar 2022There are single and dual SIM versions of the Xcover Pro. I... moreMine is duel sim but samsung says it is going to have an update in late 2020 to be able to use the second sim
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- Zakalwe
- 0AD
- 03 Mar 2022
Stpeterson12, 02 Mar 2022Why can Samsung advertise a phone as Duel sim's, sell ... moreThere are single and dual SIM versions of the Xcover Pro. I doubt Samsung themselves would advertise an SS version as DS, but it is something to watch out for, and I could easily see retailers mixing this up.
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- Stpeterson12
- s7X
- 02 Mar 2022
Why can Samsung advertise a phone as Duel sim's, sell these phones as Duel sim's and have them not be able to have two sim's. Isn't that false advertising?
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- GG7Down
- 3xn
- 22 Feb 2022
Hopefully Samsung makes an updated Xcover phone or one of a similar style soon.
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- d%t
- 16 Jan 2022
please put additional information about the specs of materials.
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- Anonymous
- auu
- 26 Dec 2021
a complete mobile phone, is great!!
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- Zakalwe
- B87
- 29 Oct 2021
I use mine for running all the time, either openly on the arm (rain does not matter), or in my pocket (GPS still works well enough). I do have a case on it, though - if it were to fall, there is a good chance it would fly around a bit and bump on the asphalt, might still be too much for the ruggedness spec.
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- Slayer235
- 3Ye
- 28 Oct 2021
What do you guys think of this phone being used for runners ?
Like say trail running. Drop proof, water resistant, Dust proof all of these points and its cheaper price tag. for a used one you can get one for 150$.
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- Sajtkukac
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- 25 Oct 2021
I'm working at a phone accessories wholesale company, and I can tell you, that this whole Xcover series was a complete disaster.
They said, that this phone is waterproof (it's NOT) and shockproof (also not).
Bright side is - you have to protect your phone anyways with cases, screen protector glasses, and if you might soak it in pure water, your warranty is basically no longer exists because you cannot prove how long and deep you brougt the phone with you.
I knew (also repaired) several Xcover phones along the years, and they were not good at any means.