Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G
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- Samuel Mwangi
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- 25 Aug 2021
AshkanArabim, 23 Aug 2021While this may be true, you have to consider that the phone... moreIt can be fitted with two batteries 🔋 one each fold instead of one. Each to be 4,400 mA. The weight should be a non issue considering the many screens. Xiaomi have experimented on this! It's called dual battery.
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- Shocked
- pJF
- 25 Aug 2021
A 12mp camera???? Or have I read this wrong?
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- Anonymous
- Twq
- 25 Aug 2021
Isn't it awesome how you can't even install a different OS after Samsung stops support, if you want functioning cameras? This will be an expensive paperweight in a couple of years, unless you stick with the stock OS after support ends. Such a shame.
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- MatteoSan
- T0B
- 25 Aug 2021
Hello
No words regarding antenna type installed? is it 4xMiMO, millimeter, array antennas which configuration is impemented for 5G ? Who has the best signal reception ? Why always NO words regarding how 5G radio is implemented in testing phone ?
best regards
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- Anonymous
- 8kP
- 25 Aug 2021
with this battery life the device belongs in the trash, a big disappointment.
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- Campos
- LTc
- 24 Aug 2021
The plz bring back the note series and stop thing about your self the world needs notes not this flip phones.
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- Battery Guru
- 7Xn
- 24 Aug 2021
A phone that thick only have 4k mAh battery?
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- Anonymous
- pee
- 24 Aug 2021
Snapdragon 888 or 888+? And LPDDR5 5500 or 6400?
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- gica
- 0Ua
- 23 Aug 2021
Wifi6 has only HE80 bandwidth not HE160, sadly.
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- Ali
- XWm
- 23 Aug 2021
It reminds me of the Nokia E90 communicator! What a phone it was, simply generations ahead of its time. The only phone i ever had that ppl would actually notice and compliment it....
Good old Nokia days...
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- NeoGul
- r3H
- 23 Aug 2021
WhiteDragem, 23 Aug 2021Long time GSMArena’er here (since the start); has been awhi... moreYou've made some valid points here, and yes, the Knox complication is a real nightmare - for some reason the regional thing makes a mess of both buying the phones and using all the functionalities.
As someone who used the 9210 and the 9210i, I sincerely hoped I could get my communicator feel and use back with Fold 2, sadly it fell short on so many levels that even though I still used it for a while as my main ANDROID business tool, it was more of a YouTube phone for me. Then I got the Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold and I found my COMMUNICATOR - The feel in hand, ease of holding it, inner screen can go for me as a tablet, the aspect ratio is good enough, the outer screen holds more than my Z fold 2 and most importantly the dual nano SIM functionality.
Samsung tricked us into believing the esim functionality would come up after the said update BUT it never did. With the Xiaomi, I've been awakened to value for money - something I've ignored I've the years with Samsung, even with my Mega 2, Note 5 and Note 8 screens going black on me without any impact or fall and cost about 70% the price of the phone to fix.
Like I said, what I'm waiting for is the Flip from Xiaomi to continue the fold experience. I'm done with Samsung.
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- handyman
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- 23 Aug 2021
A nice device. A novelty! I had the chance to hold it in my hand a few days ago. The device is designed to be a phone and a tablet at the same time. Therefore it costs quite a lot. However, the battery life is not good for such a purpose and for this reason, I would not buy it.
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- pu2
- 23 Aug 2021
The narrow width is what helps in holding the thick device. And as a plus point, helps with one hand usage.
A thick and wide phone like Huawei X2 is a nightmare to handle.
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- NeoGul
- r3H
- 23 Aug 2021
AshkanArabim, 23 Aug 2021While this may be true, you have to consider that the phone... moreThats where Innovation comes in .. something that seems to be seriously lacking in the recent offerings.
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- Khader
- vGM
- 23 Aug 2021
Best fold 2
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- WhiteDragem
- X3s
- 23 Aug 2021
Long time GSMArena’er here (since the start); has been awhile since I logged in - the system had forgotten I existed (which is odd, and weird at the same time, given previously I had to have an alt account (same name DifFeReNt CaSe) due to a server error with my login.
-=long time smart phone user=-
Still have a few 9000 series Nokia communicators lying around (symbian OS, perfect phones), and have had many premium/flagship productivity phones over the years (the best was the HTC TouchPro2)..
Having a Fold 2 in hand; and no loyalty to big corporations/‘fanboyism’- I can vouch for the Fold experience. In some ways it is a terrific tool/device I wouldn’t want to be without, but then I could NEVER make it my daily driver either due to anti consumer Samsung practices, sadly.
The Fold is a great ‘mini tablet’ that is easy to fit in pockets that a regular tablet might not.
Using Samsungs’/Googles’ “call and text on other devices” feature, I might even do more than just consumption on this ‘toy’ as well. (Actually for gaming and even remote play (eg Playstation gaming) the Folds large 120Hz screen is a true joy to have access to.
Quite simply the phone is too big and pretty to use ‘in field’; this is a desktop /briefcase class phone. The old Nokia versions (fold open business tool) were built in a chassis that felt right sliding into pockets. The same way a palm organiser should. The Fold is more like a Psion 5mx - something that you are willing to carry in a hand as writing emails from the top of a mountain is cool (or was in the late nineties).
-=Fold 3=-
Samsung have added s-pen and ingress protection which are the big ‘yay’ features no doubt.
Having owned mostly every second Note phone Samsung made, and being an s-pen lover, this would have been a big win for me. Forcing the s-pen to live outside the phone isn’t ‘so bad’, as users need a case, and the case can hold the stylus. (we have a few iPad Pros in the house, and buying a certain case to ‘hold the pencil’ is just ‘apart of the purchase’.
-=Camera hole in ‘main screen’=-
Would have been better if Samsung had simply moved the hole out from the middle of the screen.. would allow widescreen netflix/media to show themselves and the black cutout could be placed more towards a corner... (my ideal solution- being I’m never going to use the phone cameras)
Why not buy it?
Samsung Sillyness!
Being anticonsumer to force upgrades is something Samsung really skate a thin line on...
When the Note 7 had to be recalled (I had three), Samsung finally gave another update to the Note4 phone (security etc), simply in an act to hold off the existing Samsung user base from going elsewhere.
My Note 7 had features like APTXHD but Samsung has removed APTX (HD & LL) from the android operating system (and HWA / LHDC as well)
None of my Samsung devices can give hi resolution sound via bluetooth.
Sure they can connect to LDAC, and in time I might just have a house filled with LDAC capable kit. But presently I have a lot of stuff that supports APTX HD or APTX LL or HWA/LHDC etc, and Samsung want me to get rid of truly high end bluetooth products (an oxymoronic proposition mostly) to use Samsung buds and Samsung ‘scaleable codec’.
Now for mid tier and typical consumer hi end, this decision might net them a sale or three of the earbuds (ie generate profit due to accessory sales), but from a flagship tech toy, it will simply cost Samsung ‘lost unit sales’ on the high end phone.
I still use my Note 10+ as a media store due to expandable storage, so it has 768GB and 300GB of 5G data before it shapes to 10mbps speed.
I run my phone into a USB DAC (mostly) for music.
Cannot use any of my high end IEMs with the phone directly due to the removed 3.5mm jack, no problem, USB DAC ‘helps’. But we are starting to get into some zany sized pockets when we factor additional kit for audio playback, and likely a high quality camera (I never shoot with phone cameras, and often leave the house with an ACTUAL camera hanging from my body)..
If Samsung think that paying software teams money to remove base android features (eg HWA support from android 11)(apt x hd/ll => apt x), for their flagship technology showcases to be crippled: NOT SMART PEOPLE!
My Note 7 and Note 4 both serve me better.
The Note 4 (edge variant) has the wider screen ratio (the curved edge also renders the main screen so that web browswers are ‘wider’ etc), and certainly for ‘couch consumption’ the InfraRed blaster (eg phone can be a remote control for the full hifi/tv etc) is very handy.
Both the Note 4 and the Note 7 have expandable storage.
I have replaced the battery in the Note4edge a year or so ago (took 30 seconds).
Is it more comfortable viewing webpages on the Fold series?
Not really. not vs the Note Edge. (small/lightweight with a good screen ratio/width for reading)
The 12.9” apple tablet I use for desktop duties (like typing this) is in a cast iron frame. It resides permanently on the desk. I could leave the smaller iPad Pro at home now, and use the Fold as an infield tool for proofing photos etc, but the iPad Pro in a UAG case (with Pencil holder naturally) is a more feature full package, bigger screen, 10 hour battery life, and isn’t going to catch me out like the Samsung phone does, simply by being different to EVERY OTHER ANDROID handset.
I like KNOX security, but sadly most methods to reenable the operating system features that Samsung have disabled and ripped out, require circumventing KNOX.
At which point I wouldn’t use the Fold as a secure web portal, in the same way that I trust Apple products with my banking details and internet payments etc.
Having been a PC technician for decades, Apple products are a little too locked down for ME personally, but they have major advantages to them which has me recommend every house have at least one iPad for online payments/security and colour proofing internet purchases etc
I thought the Fold would be a full multimedia solution, and have hit so many walls in ‘day to day use’ that I couldn’t in good faith recommend this product to many people.
Sadly I don’t know many office workers who use a briefcase and listen to Samsung buds.
The cheapest media player that the local music shop sells being 1/10th the cost of the Fold, makes music sound vastly better. A tablet for 1/2 the cost + a media player + a high end phone (with stylus) would cost less; give more reliable use scenarios, more Operating system ecosystems to utilise and would allow a user to detach from it all and walk around the block with a tiny dedicated music player allowing their music to remain uninterrupted whilst social media pings the user like crazy to interact with their google device.
I use one daily, but only cause I have all the other toys/tools I need to survive.
The Fold is a luxury item pure and simply.
It would even be a really good one if Samsung didn’t screw consumers of basic android functionality in an attempt to sell entry level audio kit that most Fold users wouldn’t want/need.
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- AshkanArabim
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- 23 Aug 2021
Samuel Mwangi, 21 Aug 2021This phone deserves a bigger battery, we are talking about ... moreWhile this may be true, you have to consider that the phone has two screens, a hinge and five cameras. They can't put a giant battery somewhere in the middle like other phones.
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- Anonymous
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- 23 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2021i have to wait until 10th of september to get mine in australia.how much does it cost in australia?
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- Anonymous
- wgT
- 22 Aug 2021
ZeusKitty, 18 Aug 2021I just got done pre-ordering 2 of these. 1 for me and 1 for... morei have to wait until 10th of september to get mine in australia.
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- skymfa
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- 21 Aug 2021
1- The purpose of the camera under the display is to get rid of the appendage and punch hole.
2- Buyers of phones with a selfie camera under the screen are looking for a solid screen without protrusions and holes. And the quality of the selfie camera is a very low priority for them.
But Samsung not only did not eliminate the selfie hole and did not introduce a uniform screen, but also introduced exactly the same appendage (the selfie hole) as a pixel hole that can be displayed on the top of the phone.
The camera under the Samsung display is a disaster. We expect a uniform screen